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Barry Jackson on D'Onofrio

NY Shyne said:
D will be much better with Morris gone. They always played good in first half of games, then we're left on the field to long.
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Go look at the PBP of the Wake Forest game. The defense did a fine job of sucking the entire first half. The offense had 4 drives. 2 scoring, 1 - 4 and out, and 1 punt after a couple first downs. Wake is a team we should not have even struggled with. They were crap.

Look at the Duke game. We both had 1 4 and out in the first half, none in the second half.
 
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DJWilliams55 said:
Like any scheme, it depends on the personnel. If you can find a monster NT and some good rush OLBs, it will be very successful. Stanford's D is a 3-4 two gap D. A lot of Ds have been successful with this system. It's all about finding the pieces. It may or may not be a great cultural fit for SF athletes, but the scheme itself isn't incapable of being successful.
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It is not just cultural, there is a climate element. The 3-4 you speak of requires huge NTs and much bigger dline and LBs than normally exist down here. Our old teams were always smaller--even on Oline, so where the Dolphins when they were great. Hot, humid, makes it difficult to be an active, aggressive type of person if you carry those extra pounds. Those big players from other teams us to collapse in So FL humidity and heat. That is one reason we owned the fourth quarter. Now our guys collapse in the 4th and at end of season.

We have been witness to two of the greatest examples of football in history down here and both took place with smaller quicker players than their opposition. And it is not about black inner city kids; the undefeated Dolphins started 10 out 11 white dudes on defense and numerous white guy on offense. All were smaller than their counterparts in the NFL, except Zonk. We have an example of the greatest pro team and perhaps the great college dynasty, why not follow them. Caution, both these played in the OB, with probably the fastest turf in the country -- now both play in a cow pasture in north Dade. Small and really fast is good; small and slower, is not.
 
Tracy Howard
Deon Bush
Jamal Carter
Jermaine Grace
Al-Quadin Muhammad
Tyriq McCord
Anthony Chickillo
Raphael Kirby
Artie Burns
Corn Elder
Denzel Perryman

These kids were all 4+ stars with huge offer lists from big-time programs. They had every big school humping their leg. If you can't crack the top 25 with this group, go **** your own face.

I don't wanna hear any *****ing about being inexperienced or young. LSU lost 8 starters and had a top 25 defense last season. ******* coach them. DT is atrocious, so nobody is expecting some legendary top 5 unit, but if you can't crack the top 25 with this much talent in the ACC you're worthless as a football coach.

Anyone excusing a ranking less than a top 25 defense is a grade-A moron. We hear the crying about needing a talent upgrade, this defense is littered with kids who could've named their school. Get it done or get out of my sight.
 
DJWilliams55 said:
Like any scheme, it depends on the personnel. If you can find a monster NT and some good rush OLBs, it will be very successful. Stanford's D is a 3-4 two gap D. A lot of Ds have been successful with this system. It's all about finding the pieces. It may or may not be a great cultural fit for SF athletes, but the scheme itself isn't incapable of being successful.
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His base unit is not the problem. It is his scheme within that base. Oregon ducks run a hybrid 3-4 but their scheme looks nothing like ours. Oregon plays fast and aggressive with their scheme but we look passive and reactionary
 
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DJWilliams55 said:
Like any scheme, it depends on the personnel. If you can find a monster NT and some good rush OLBs, it will be very successful. Stanford's D is a 3-4 two gap D. A lot of Ds have been successful with this system. It's all about finding the pieces. It may or may not be a great cultural fit for SF athletes, but the scheme itself isn't incapable of being successful.
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I agree with this. D and Golden haven't invented the only defense in the history of football that is incapable of success. But that's where the coaching comes in--taking the system and getting the players to execute. And if they can't execute, you have to ask how you are going to adjust your system to get better execution. This is the aspect that concerns me. You get the sense that these coaches just keep waiting for the players to execute better without making a fundamental assumption that they are not going to execute and asking how they should adjust to get better execution. Their fundamentally flawed thinking has been aided by bad personnel--it's probably easy for them to delude themselves into thinking that it'll get better with better players. It will, but probably not that much.
 
No monster defensive lineman on the planet is going to help if they're being asked to drop into coverage or not penetrate upfield.

The entire ******* scheme is beyond ridiculous. It's the most ill conceived piece of hot garbage I've seen in 30 years of watching football. Someone explain to me why there were instances where we had TWO deep safeties in goal line situations.

And to whoever was saying they didn't have a problem with linebackers walking out to cover slot guys...the ******* problem starts BEFORE you get to that point. It starts when the other team has 4 wide receivers in the game and we're still sporting 3 linebackers in the huddle before the snap.

Shannon may have been a horrible and simplistic coach...and even though I didn't agree with alot of what he did I could at least see what he was TRYING to do. With these 2 clowns from Temple....I don't have a ******* clue going into year 4.

They both belong at a smaller program. Period.
 
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DJWilliams55 said:
Like any scheme, it depends on the personnel. If you can find a monster NT and some good rush OLBs, it will be very successful. Stanford's D is a 3-4 two gap D. A lot of Ds have been successful with this system. It's all about finding the pieces. It may or may not be a great cultural fit for SF athletes, but the scheme itself isn't incapable of being successful.
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If you noticed i havent seen top NT who want to play in this soft system. Gap control and not attacking is not going to invite to NT cosigned VT! The system sucks and Coach AG and his temple south staff might be kicking rocks next years if this happens again next year. I would go after T Robinson as the D coordinator next year.
 
Gatorhater said:
DJWilliams55 said:
Like any scheme, it depends on the personnel. If you can find a monster NT and some good rush OLBs, it will be very successful. Stanford's D is a 3-4 two gap D. A lot of Ds have been successful with this system. It's all about finding the pieces. It may or may not be a great cultural fit for SF athletes, but the scheme itself isn't incapable of being successful.
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It is not just cultural, there is a climate element. The 3-4 you speak of requires huge NTs and much bigger dline and LBs than normally exist down here. Our old teams were always smaller--even on Oline, so where the Dolphins when they were great. Hot, humid, makes it difficult to be an active, aggressive type of person if you carry those extra pounds. Those big players from other teams us to collapse in So FL humidity and heat. That is one reason we owned the fourth quarter. Now our guys collapse in the 4th and at end of season.

We have been witness to two of the greatest examples of football in history down here and both took place with smaller quicker players than their opposition. And it is not about black inner city kids; the undefeated Dolphins started 10 out 11 white dudes on defense and numerous white guy on offense. All were smaller than their counterparts in the NFL, except Zonk. We have an example of the greatest pro team and perhaps the great college dynasty, why not follow them. Caution, both these played in the OB, with probably the fastest turf in the country -- now both play in a cow pasture in north Dade. Small and really fast is good; small and slower, is not.
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Again, I too prefer an aggressive 4-3, but I also remember a bigger and stockier team in Nebraska wearing us down physically in the 4th quarter in our own stadium in the 95 OB.
 
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DJWilliams55 said:
Like any scheme, it depends on the personnel. If you can find a monster NT and some good rush OLBs, it will be very successful. Stanford's D is a 3-4 two gap D. A lot of Ds have been successful with this system. It's all about finding the pieces. It may or may not be a great cultural fit for SF athletes, but the scheme itself isn't incapable of being successful.
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I would not call Stanford's scheme a predominant 2-gap scheme.
 
I think our defense will be good next season. Top 40.

End Pierre/Moten rotation
Nose Huertelou/Wyche rotation
End Chick/Kamalu rotation
WOLB AQM/McCord rotation
WILB Kirby
SILB Perryman
SOLB Figatron/Chad Thomas rotation
CB Howard
CB Gunter/Crawford/Burns rotation
S. Bush
S. Carter/Jenkins rotation

WTH is right that this is a talented defense. It is weak in a few spots but overall it's filled with a good amount of talent. The linemen should be able to stop the run. There's legit pass rushing talent at OLB. The ILB are good players and are big enough to get off blocks if they use their hands well. Secondary is very good. To me, it all comes down to the two JUCO NTs.

I think the 2015 defense will be the real stud D, but this will be a good one. Prolly not top 25, though but close.
 
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An influx of talent will not help this coaching staff....there are that inept and usually when you are that inept you can't get the players you think you need anyways. It's a two tier problem.
 
I also find it hard to believe when coach d claims he hadn't known about the comments made from former players.
 
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Agree 100%. He and golden seem to pay a lot of mind to what Is said in newspapers, stats etc.....often times in a defensive format.
 
Some Miami fan lawyers should sue D'Buttsquirt for failure to perform, fraudulent representation as a coach, resulting in undue fan stress, and demand all that ******** salary be returned since he got here.
 
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