Aplogies to the anderson FAMILY...

[CaneWasher]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

 

[hollyhood27]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

 

[CaneWasher]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

You can't see the forest for the trees. Now put yourself in the shoes of the surrounding coaches who bust their tail to build up to what you have, but who can't do it because selfish kids get up and leave ("kids knocking down door") instead of finishing what their coach is trying to start. Tell those coaches to "make it so a kid does not want to leave" when they have their hands tied.

 

[JHallCanes]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

Yet you still can't push an elite DT to Miami you sonofa....

 

[hollyhood27]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

You can't see the forest for the trees. Now put yourself in the shoes of the surrounding coaches who bust their tail to build up to what you have, but who can't do it because selfish kids get up and leave ("kids knocking down door") instead of finishing what their coach is trying to start. Tell those coaches to "make it so a kid does not want to leave" when they have their hands tied.

So what do you want coaches to do? Worry about their job, their program and now other programs?

 

[hollyhood27]

It was a fun discussion but it's getting to the point that this is running it's course. what else is there to say besides you calling anyone who leaves for a better situation a prima donna.

 

[hollyhood27]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

Yet you still can't push an elite DT to Miami you sonofa....

In due time. Our elite DT is a 9th grader. All of our other DT are really good just undersized.

 

[JHallCanes]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

Yet you still can't push an elite DT to Miami you sonofa....

In due time. Our elite DT is a 9th grader. All of our other DT are really good just undersized.

If you hit up the WEZ for a collection plate now, the kid is a lock. Just sayin.

 

[hollyhood27]

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

Yet you still can't push an elite DT to Miami you sonofa....

In due time. Our elite DT is a 9th grader. All of our other DT are really good just undersized.

If you hit up the WEZ for a collection plate now, the kid is a lock. Just sayin.

With all the bentley drivers in there, we can make it happen.

 

[CaneWasher]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.

If you're really a coach, you can't say that with a straight face. You have to know better than to say that.

You can say what you want, but we have kids knocking down door, kids not trying to leave, signing multiple guys to scholarships a year, a recent state championship, and a national game on ESPN next year. So our philosophy is obviously working

You can't see the forest for the trees. Now put yourself in the shoes of the surrounding coaches who bust their tail to build up to what you have, but who can't do it because selfish kids get up and leave ("kids knocking down door") instead of finishing what their coach is trying to start. Tell those coaches to "make it so a kid does not want to leave" when they have their hands tied.

So what do you want coaches to do? Worry about their job, their program and now other programs?

Who said that I want those coaches to worry about anything? I want the FHSAA to crack down on transfer rules so that kids don't leave every time they get their feelings hurt or decide to leave their teammates hanging in favor of some bling at another school.

 

[Coach Macho]

How exactly do you "make a kid not want to leave"?

Please tell me cause apparently we don't have it figured out. We run a great program. We take our kids all over the state to camps and tournaments. We're an 'A' school. We run a fun, high tempo offense. We run a diverse, attacking scheme on defense. We have an excellent weight training program and strength coach. We play big boy football (8A) and our schedule features tons of D1 talent. In the three years that our head coach has been here we have gone 5-5, 6-4 and then 7-3 last season. Our defense has been amongst the top in the county for the past three years. We've accomplished all of this despite the fact that we rarely have any scholarship level players. (we coach what we have an use to scheme to compensate for lack of talent)

Now consider everything I just told you and tell me how and why we seem to lose atleast one talented player every year to a transfer.

In the four seasons that I've been here we've lost a CB to St.Thomas who ended up signing a D1AA scholarship. (which is what he would've got if he stayed here)
We lost a 6'5" Offensive Lineman to American Heritage who ended up signing to West Virginia.
We lost a 6'4" WR/TE to American Heritage who ended up signing to Navy. (personally I think our offense would've got him a better offer)
We lost another Offensive Lineman to American Heritage last year. He went there and ended up sitting the bench.
We lost Giovanni Bernard and James White to St.Thomas. (they live in our zone)

And the worst of all...

After going 7-3 with an offense filled with Sophomores, the QB who made it all happen...a 6'4" kid with offers from Florida, Akron, Marshall and South Florida...leaves to St.Thomas. Now we go from possibly having the best season in school history next year to not even knowing who our starting QB is gonna be going into spring. All cause this kid's daddy wanted to take his kid to a more "attractive" high school.

How are we supposed to build something at this school? What can we do about random people off the street getting into our kid's ears, of their parents ears, and selling them on other programs?

 

[SFbayCane]

Wow, I miss all the fun. I was post #3 and now its page 4. Some random thoughts:

* Ryan Williams transferred before his senior season to Miramar high and won a state championship. Does he fall into the douchebag category?

* I see this quite often at QB out here in California. Kids will transfer to skools with offenses that favor their strong suit in an effort to get more recruitable. And yes, its often perpetuated by "stage dad" type of fathers. But its their kid and their choice. I'd much prefer to see a man who is actively involved in their kid's youth sports career than not. (coaches hate that tho. lol)

 

[hollyhood27]

How exactly do you "make a kid not want to leave"?

Please tell me cause apparently we don't have it figured out. We run a great program. We take our kids all over the state to camps and tournaments. We're an 'A' school. We run a fun, high tempo offense. We run a diverse, attacking scheme on defense. We have an excellent weight training program and strength coach. We play big boy football (8A) and our schedule features tons of D1 talent. In the three years that our head coach has been here we have gone 5-5, 6-4 and then 7-3 last season. Our defense has been amongst the top in the county for the past three years. We've accomplished all of this despite the fact that we rarely have any scholarship level players. (we coach what we have an use to scheme to compensate for lack of talent)

Now consider everything I just told you and tell me how and why we seem to lose atleast one talented player every year to a transfer.

In the four seasons that I've been here we've lost a CB to St.Thomas who ended up signing a D1AA scholarship. (which is what he would've got if he stayed here)
We lost a 6'5" Offensive Lineman to American Heritage who ended up signing to West Virginia.
We lost a 6'4" WR/TE to American Heritage who ended up signing to Navy. (personally I think our offense would've got him a better offer)
We lost another Offensive Lineman to American Heritage last year. He went there and ended up sitting the bench.
We lost Giovanni Bernard and James White to St.Thomas. (they live in our zone)

And the worst of all...

After going 7-3 with an offense filled with Sophomores, the QB who made it all happen...a 6'4" kid with offers from Florida, Akron, Marshall and South Florida...leaves to St.Thomas. Now we go from possibly having the best season in school history next year to not even knowing who our starting QB is gonna be going into spring. All cause this kid's daddy wanted to take his kid to a more "attractive" high school.

How are we supposed to build something at this school? What can we do about random people off the street getting into our kid's ears, of their parents ears, and selling them on other programs?

I don't know what you want me to tell you. Our kids love our program and we do a good job of keeping them, come up and visit with us I guess.

 

[Coach Macho]

You can't do anything we don't already do. Our kids love our program too. They're not leaving because they don't love the program, they're leaving because they believe that they'll get more offers if they play down the street at U-School, Heritage or St.Thomas. They're believing what these street agents/recruiters are telling them. They're not leaving cause they don't like the program.

 

[CaneWasher]

Wow, I miss all the fun. I was post #3 and now its page 4. Some random thoughts:

* Ryan Williams transferred before his senior season to Miramar high and won a state championship. Does he fall into the douchebag category?

Of course. Why wouldn't he? And if Miramar was doing such a splendid job on their own, why did they need Ryan Williams to come in and help them win the state title? That's the whole rub. A program like Miramar is pumped up as being the pinnacle of high school football, so kids transfer there, but the only reason they're any good is because they pluck the talent from wherever they want. The coaches who try to put in hard work and actually develop players are the guys who get stuck going 7-3.

 

[Coach Macho]

Miramar's got like 89 guys on their "coaching staff". LOL

We fought tooth and nail with them that year. Lost 7-0. Smh

 

[CaneWasher]

They're believing what these street agents/recruiters are telling them. They're not leaving cause they don't like the program.

Truth. The kids and parents don't allow the previous coach to sit down with them and give him a chance to sell his own program. Coaches have to recruit their own kids just to keep them on campus.

 

[Coach Macho]

Exactly.

 

[gogeta4]

Wow, I miss all the fun. I was post #3 and now its page 4. Some random thoughts:

* Ryan Williams transferred before his senior season to Miramar high and won a state championship. Does he fall into the douchebag category?

* I see this quite often at QB out here in California. Kids will transfer to skools with offenses that favor their strong suit in an effort to get more recruitable. And yes, its often perpetuated by "stage dad" type of fathers. But its their kid and their choice. I'd much prefer to see a man who is actively involved in their kid's youth sports career than not. (coaches hate that tho. lol)

miramar was his homeschool...(ah is private)....alot of people around Heritage liked the back up more than ryan at the time...not saying everybody...

 

[gogeta4]

Miramar's got like 89 guys on their "coaching staff". LOL

We fought tooth and nail with them that year. Lost 7-0. Smh

whole bunch of guys .....lol...which is why i never thought about coaching there...although i live down the street..and know/coached with some of their coaches before.

But to be honest Miramar doesnt really have to "recruit" like is stated....the area is LOADED with feeder talent (optomist/popwarner)...the school has a wide area to pull this talent...as Miramar only has 2 puplic schools...and one is EVERGLADES which is out west in LAMEVILLE. All they needed was coaching....and they got it...Miramar always was loaded with talent since my playing days...