Aplogies to the anderson FAMILY...

[hollyhood27]

hold on wait.....

seattle washington though??

Dude if you wanted to sling the ball around or get noticed a bit....you could of transferred to Central/ Nw in Dade...(Jo Jo Robinson, Cook,Devante Phillips) to throw the ball too......or could have went to a few schools in broward.

Kid is probably a mid mjor type player....and will get mid major like offers regardless of school...but to go thaatttt far.(seattle?)...the ****...

****, Chaminade is stacked but needs a QB. He could've came in and replaced Sean White.

Yea but he's in the offense now. He was looking for a wide open attack.

 

[courcy75]

So using this logic we can now refer to Ereck Flowers, jermaine Grace, Phillip Dorsett and I'm sure I'm missing a few as such for transferring to other schools for a better opportunity.

 

[CaneWasher]

So using this logic we can now refer to Ereck Flowers, jermaine Grace, Phillip Dorsett and I'm sure I'm missing a few as such for transferring to other schools for a better opportunity.

You people are such novices. Coaches work with a player to make him who he is, teammates rely on the player to be a solid anchor for that side of the ball, then he leaves them all hanging for some phantom "better opportunity"? Stupid. We - and every other major football program - find elite players wherever they are. We found Mike James in f'ing Davenport, Florida. Why were they even on anyone's radar? Uh, because of Mike James. They had nothing else.

This clown is leaving a state title caliber team. The grass is always greener somewhere else, then in the end, nothing ever improved.

 

[courcy75]

So using this logic we can now refer to Ereck Flowers, jermaine Grace, Phillip Dorsett and I'm sure I'm missing a few as such for transferring to other schools for a better opportunity.

You people are such novices. Coaches work with a player to make him who he is, teammates rely on the player to be a solid anchor for that side of the ball, then he leaves them all hanging for some phantom "better opportunity"? Stupid. We - and every other major football program - find elite players wherever they are. We found Mike James in f'ing Davenport, Florida. Why were they even on anyone's radar? Uh, because of Mike James. They had nothing else.

This clown is leaving a state title caliber team. The grass is always greener somewhere else, then in the end, nothing ever improved.

We found him in Davenport standing next to Karlos and Vince Williams. Nice try though. I don't know this kid and he actually might be some dbag but leaving a school that runs the veer to another school that has produced D1 qb's isn't a crime. Let the kid be.

 

[CaneWasher]

So using this logic we can now refer to Ereck Flowers, jermaine Grace, Phillip Dorsett and I'm sure I'm missing a few as such for transferring to other schools for a better opportunity.

You people are such novices. Coaches work with a player to make him who he is, teammates rely on the player to be a solid anchor for that side of the ball, then he leaves them all hanging for some phantom "better opportunity"? Stupid. We - and every other major football program - find elite players wherever they are. We found Mike James in f'ing Davenport, Florida. Why were they even on anyone's radar? Uh, because of Mike James. They had nothing else.

This clown is leaving a state title caliber team. The grass is always greener somewhere else, then in the end, nothing ever improved.

We found him in Davenport standing next to Karlos and Vince Williams. Nice try though. I don't know this kid and he actually might be some dbag but leaving a school that runs the veer to another school that has produced D1 qb's isn't a crime. Let the kid be.

You fell right into that trap. A nothing school in the middle of nowhere produced a handful of D1 kids, so we went to see what they had. Those kids didn't have to transfer to Lakeland or Boone to be seen. That's why your "better opportunity" line is so bad.

 

[hollyhood27]

So using this logic we can now refer to Ereck Flowers, jermaine Grace, Phillip Dorsett and I'm sure I'm missing a few as such for transferring to other schools for a better opportunity.

You people are such novices. Coaches work with a player to make him who he is, teammates rely on the player to be a solid anchor for that side of the ball, then he leaves them all hanging for some phantom "better opportunity"? Stupid. We - and every other major football program - find elite players wherever they are. We found Mike James in f'ing Davenport, Florida. Why were they even on anyone's radar? Uh, because of Mike James. They had nothing else.

This clown is leaving a state title caliber team. The grass is always greener somewhere else, then in the end, nothing ever improved.

We found him in Davenport standing next to Karlos and Vince Williams. Nice try though. I don't know this kid and he actually might be some dbag but leaving a school that runs the veer to another school that has produced D1 qb's isn't a crime. Let the kid be.

You fell right into that trap. A nothing school in the middle of nowhere produced a handful of D1 kids, so we went to see what they had. Those kids didn't have to transfer to Lakeland or Boone to be seen. That's why your "better opportunity" line is so bad.

What?

 

[courcy75]

So using this logic we can now refer to Ereck Flowers, jermaine Grace, Phillip Dorsett and I'm sure I'm missing a few as such for transferring to other schools for a better opportunity.

You people are such novices. Coaches work with a player to make him who he is, teammates rely on the player to be a solid anchor for that side of the ball, then he leaves them all hanging for some phantom "better opportunity"? Stupid. We - and every other major football program - find elite players wherever they are. We found Mike James in f'ing Davenport, Florida. Why were they even on anyone's radar? Uh, because of Mike James. They had nothing else.

This clown is leaving a state title caliber team. The grass is always greener somewhere else, then in the end, nothing ever improved.

We found him in Davenport standing next to Karlos and Vince Williams. Nice try though. I don't know this kid and he actually might be some dbag but leaving a school that runs the veer to another school that has produced D1 qb's isn't a crime. Let the kid be.

You fell right into that trap. A nothing school in the middle of nowhere produced a handful of D1 kids, so we went to see what they had. Those kids didn't have to transfer to Lakeland or Boone to be seen. That's why your "better opportunity" line is so bad.

What?

Help me I'm trapped! This is comical.

 

[CaneWasher]

Help me I'm trapped! This is comical.

What don't you understand? Ridge Community is a nothing program. Those kids did not have to transfer for this "better opportunity" that you people keep talking about. Thousands of kids stay right where they are at and end up in major programs. Only the prima donnas have to transfer.

 

[hollyhood27]

So Ereck Flowers, Jermaine Grace and Phillip Dorsett are a prima donnas?

 

[CaneWasher]

So Ereck Flowers, Jermaine Grace and Phillip Dorsett are a prima donnas?

Yes, unless you can show the hardship that forced them to change schools.

 

[hollyhood27]

So Ereck Flowers, Jermaine Grace and Phillip Dorsett are a prima donnas?

Yes, unless you can show the hardship that forced them to change schools.

Well OK then. No arguing you with then.

 

[JHallCanes]

I skipped out a bit on this argument but I think the OP's gripe, or whatever you want to call it, is it's not like the family is just moving him around Florida. They are moving the kid across the country. Seems pretty extreme when there is probably no hotter recruiting bed than in the state of Florida.

But whatever.

 

[CaneWasher]

So Ereck Flowers, Jermaine Grace and Phillip Dorsett are a prima donnas?

Yes, unless you can show the hardship that forced them to change schools.

Well OK then. No arguing you with then.

I don't mind a debate, but you haven't come with any substance at all. Do you have proof that changing schools provides a better opportunity, or are you just going to keep asking condescending questions? If you have a well-thought position on why transferring should be embraced, I am all for learning new things.

 

[hollyhood27]

I was waiting for this...

Depends on the reason for transferring. I coach at school, where for whatever reason or another we get quite a few transfers every year. The reason is always different, but for the most part it's because we do the best job of getting kids prepared for the next level. Sure colleges can find kids anywhere but during spring time, with time being so crunched, they will and have skipped over schools (unless they have a flat out stud i.e. the Williams brothers). Whether it's because of relationships with different coaches, they work harder at recruiting or that they are just at a successful program, some HS do a much better job than others. ( and some schools just don't know how to handle the recruiting process because they aren't used to it) That's a fact.

Now the kid from Naples, him leaving because of exposure is BS (naples and coach kramer does a great job) but him leaving because he did not want to run split back veer is a legit reason. As a QB coach, I can't fault him.

It would be like a 5 star Qb going to GT.
(had to type this out quick so forgive any grammatical errors)

 

[CaneWasher]

I was waiting for this...

Depends on the reason for transferring. I coach at school, where for whatever reason or another we get quite a few transfers every year. The reason is always different, but for the most part it's because we do the best job of getting kids prepared for the next level. Sure colleges can find kids anywhere but during spring time, with time being so crunched, they will and have skipped over schools (unless they have a flat out stud i.e. the Williams brothers). Whether it's because of relationships with different coaches, they work harder at recruiting or that they are just at a successful program, some HS do a much better job than others. ( and some schools just don't know how to handle the recruiting process because they aren't used to it) That's a fact.

Now the kid from Naples, him leaving because of exposure is BS (naples and coach kramer does a great job) but him leaving because he did not want to run split back veer is a legit reason. As a QB coach, I can't fault him.

It would be like a 5 star Qb going to GT.
(had to type this out quick so forgive any grammatical errors)

What were you waiting for? You could have chimed in with your opinion a long time ago.

I coach also, and have spent time on both ends of the spectrum. I was at a large school that had historical success, and kids would transfer there. I was also at a small and newer school, and kids would transfer away from there. But I'm the same guy, and probably had a better staff at the smaller school.

This results in what we know as a self-fulfilling prophecy. People think the bigger school offers a better opportunity, so kids go there, and lo and behold, all of that talent results in championships. But the coaching isn't any better. What really drives me crazy is that there are some REALLY good coaches who can't build programs because the kids won't stay and give it a chance.

Take a guy like George Smith. If you changed his name to Fred Jones and put him at South Broward, he might coach 'em up two two or three wins, but he ain't winning any titles. But at STA all he had to do was sit back and coach some of the best talent in the country. ****, 15 guys in south Florida could have won with that talent. Then, because of their success, a program like McArthur is a perennial 5-5 team because they can't keep the players that will take them to the next level, even with coaches who know what they are doing.

Good discussion.

 

[hollyhood27]

I was waiting for this...

Depends on the reason for transferring. I coach at school, where for whatever reason or another we get quite a few transfers every year. The reason is always different, but for the most part it's because we do the best job of getting kids prepared for the next level. Sure colleges can find kids anywhere but during spring time, with time being so crunched, they will and have skipped over schools (unless they have a flat out stud i.e. the Williams brothers). Whether it's because of relationships with different coaches, they work harder at recruiting or that they are just at a successful program, some HS do a much better job than others. ( and some schools just don't know how to handle the recruiting process because they aren't used to it) That's a fact.

Now the kid from Naples, him leaving because of exposure is BS (naples and coach kramer does a great job) but him leaving because he did not want to run split back veer is a legit reason. As a QB coach, I can't fault him.

It would be like a 5 star Qb going to GT.
(had to type this out quick so forgive any grammatical errors)

What were you waiting for? You could have chimed in with your opinion a long time ago.

I coach also, and have spent time on both ends of the spectrum. I was at a large school that had historical success, and kids would transfer there. I was also at a small and newer school, and kids would transfer away from there. But I'm the same guy, and probably had a better staff at the smaller school.

This results in what we know as a self-fulfilling prophecy. People think the bigger school offers a better opportunity, so kids go there, and lo and behold, all of that talent results in championships. But the coaching isn't any better. What really drives me crazy is that there are some REALLY good coaches who can't build programs because the kids won't stay and give it a chance.

Take a guy like George Smith. If you changed his name to Fred Jones and put him at South Broward, he might coach 'em up two two or three wins, but he ain't winning any titles. But at STA all he had to do was sit back and coach some of the best talent in the country. ****, 15 guys in south Florida could have won with that talent. Then, because of their success, a program like McArthur is a perennial 5-5 team because they can't keep the players that will take them to the next level, even with coaches who know what they are doing.

Good discussion.

No where in here did you state why they are prima donnas. At the end of the day the kids have to think what is going to help them get to their goals. Shoot we lost a great fullback but I can't blame him because we never use one. The kid isn't a prima donna for looking out for himself. Some of our transfers left for their own reasons but were great teammates. Calling them prima donna just comes across as bitter.

Having talent doesn't always mean have the best team.

 

[LA'Cane818]

Call me simplistic, but I cant ******* imagine uprooting my family and moving cross country because my kid can't get a football scholarship. That just seems like the ultimate is stage parenting. At the end of the day high school football is an extra curricular activity. What does it say about us as a society that we have gotten to the point where parents value high schools athletic program attributes over their academics? Also, what is this father teaching his kid when he says, "oh, things aren't going your way son, I will just uproot the entire family and move us 3500 miles away". This country needs some ******* Jesus.

 

[CaneWasher]

No where in here did you state why they are prima donnas. At the end of the day the kids have to think what is going to help them get to their goals. Shoot we lost a great fullback but I can't blame him because we never use one. The kid isn't a prima donna for looking out for himself. Some of our transfers left for their own reasons but were great teammates. Calling them prima donna just comes across as bitter.

Because most of the time a kid thinks he is better than his current situation. That's kind of the whole point. A coach puts in a lot of time for no money and no recognition, then when it's time the reap the rewards in terms of wins, the kid or kids take off.

You just said it: kids have to go after their own goals. Yet no one has provided any evidence that chasing the big name school made any difference in the kid's ultimate destination.

And there is no such thing as a great teammate who leaves to play against you.

 

[hollyhood27]

We had a kid transfer to us and we were talking to the coach about him. When we told him that he transferred from another in town, the coach had no idea where that school. This was from a prominent program that is always ranked high in recruiting.

 

[hollyhood27]

But at the end of the day as a coach, you have to make it so a kid does not want to leave.