Andy Garcia, LB, STA (2020)

[FrancisSawyer]

Flagg > Garcia IMO. Flagg's insticts are special and will translate to the next level. Flagg has obvious physical limitations though. What makes you think Garcia is better than Flagg?

It is just my opinion for now but there are a few reasons I prefer Garcia. At 6'2" 210, Garcia has a much better frame to build on going forward. Garcia's SPARQ score was excellent and his 4.7 forty 4.31 shuttle and 32" vertical tells me he is a good athlete. At this point in his development, Garcia lacks explosive power but he has a very good base for Feely to work with. Garcia has a nonstop motor and is very open to coaching. The remarkable consistency in his tackling tells me that he values technique and is focused on details. Garcia also seems to have a good to very good ceiling that is achievable through hard work and a quality S&C which he would have here.

Flagg on the other hand is 5'10" with 4.9- 5.0 speed in the 40. Flagg also doesn't seem to possess the type of lateral quickness I like to see. Don't misunderstand me. I have a great deal of respect for the young man as he is a great football player with elite instincts and a desire to win. I just feel that Flagg's physical deficiencies could be greatly magnified on this level coupled with the possibility that Flagg may already be near maxed out in terms of his ceiling. With a couple of years in our S&C he may very well overcome his physical flaws and allow his special instincts to take over. Some have said that Flagg's ceiling is Mike Smith and I would be fine with that as Smith developed into a very productive and capable backup. They can't all be starters and if Flagg becomes a Mike Smith level backup while also contributing on special teams then the take would be well worth it. I just happen to like Garcia's ceiling better at this point but like I said, it's just my humble opinion.

 

[cowboycane]

I have no opinion because I thought Josh Witt was going to be the white Sean Spence...but I have a question: if these exact two guys had their high schools flipped, would we be debating which one we take? Seems to me if Flagg was a South Florida kid he’d be a “dog” and people would be comparing him to Daryl Sharpton (worst case) or Denzel Perryman (best case).

 

[FrancisSawyer]

I have no opinion because I thought Josh White was going to be the white Sean Spence...but I have a question: if these exact two guys had their high schools flipped, would we be debating which one we take? Seems to me if Flagg was a South Florida kid he’d be a “dog” and people would be comparing him to Daryl Sharpton (worst case) or Denzel Perryman (best case).

No I don't think so. Maybe for a few who lack any analytical skills and just spew the same tired talking points about South Florida 3 stars>Non Florida 5 star.

I would compare them the same way. As far as the Denzel Perrymam and Corey Flagg comparison, there is no comparison. The only thing that Perryman and Flagg have in common is their height & instincts. Perryman possesses physical gifts that Flagg has absolutely none of.

 

[twes.305]

No I don't think so. Maybe for a few who lack any analytical skills and just spew the same tired talking points about South Florida 3 stars>Non Florida 5 star.

I would compare them the same way. As far as the Denzel Perrymam and Corey Flagg comparison, there is no comparison. The only thing that Perryman and Flagg have in common is their height & instincts. Perryman possesses physical gifts that Flagg has absolutely none of.

What physical gifts does Perry have that Flagg doesn't? Perry is not that athletic.

 

[Canesfreak]

I have no opinion because I thought Josh Witt was going to be the white Sean Spence...but I have a question: if these exact two guys had their high schools flipped, would we be debating which one we take? Seems to me if Flagg was a South Florida kid he’d be a “dog” and people would be comparing him to Daryl Sharpton (worst case) or Denzel Perryman (best case).

1000%. We will never no how Josh Witt would have turned out. Those **** concussions ended a very promising college career at UM. Kid’s HS film was off the charts.

 

[mirvin88]

It is just my opinion for now but there are a few reasons I prefer Garcia. At 6'2" 210, Garcia has a much better frame to build on going forward. Garcia's SPARQ score was excellent and his 4.7 forty 4.31 shuttle and 32" vertical tells me he is a good athlete. At this point in his development, Garcia lacks explosive power but he has a very good base for Feely to work with. Garcia has a nonstop motor and is very open to coaching. The remarkable consistency in his tackling tells me that he values technique and is focused on details. Garcia also seems to have a good to very good ceiling that is achievable through hard work and a quality S&C which he would have here.

Flagg on the other hand is 5'10" with 4.9- 5.0 speed in the 40. Flagg also doesn't seem to possess the type of lateral quickness I like to see. Don't misunderstand me. I have a great deal of respect for the young man as he is a great football player with elite instincts and a desire to win. I just feel that Flagg's physical deficiencies could be greatly magnified on this level coupled with the possibility that Flagg may already be near maxed out in terms of his ceiling. With a couple of years in our S&C he may very well overcome his physical flaws and allow his special instincts to take over. Some have said that Flagg's ceiling is Mike Smith and I would be fine with that as Smith developed into a very productive and capable backup. They can't all be starters and if Flagg becomes a Mike Smith level backup while also contributing on special teams then the take would be well worth it. I just happen to like Garcia's ceiling better at this point but like I said, it's just my humble opinion.

Isn't Garcia allegedly who Manny was quoted (not by name) with Baker as the kid crying for an offer but Baker won't recruit him because despite his athleticism he doesn't make any plays?

 

[AUcane]

Isn't Garcia allegedly who Manny was quoted (not by name) with Baker as the kid crying for an offer but Baker won't recruit him because despite his athleticism he doesn't make any plays?

That theory was throw out there by a poster. Not sure if there’s any truth to it. Could be

 

[DBC]

Garcia is not a take and I agree with it.

 

[DMoney]

I’m also good with not taking Garcia.

He has potential because of the tools but he doesn’t make enough impact plays.

 

[smoke_4]

I have no opinion because I thought Josh Witt was going to be the white Sean Spence...but I have a question: if these exact two guys had their high schools flipped, would we be debating which one we take? Seems to me if Flagg was a South Florida kid he’d be a “dog” and people would be comparing him to Daryl Sharpton (worst case) or Denzel Perryman (best case).

Production matters most and Flagg has it in Texas High School Football Garcia’s production wont match Flagg’s because he’s done it being not the most talented player

 

[smoke_4]

I’m also good with not taking Garcia.

He has potential because of the tools but he doesn’t make enough impact plays.

Seriously he doesn’t

 

[Arehel]

It is just my opinion for now but there are a few reasons I prefer Garcia. At 6'2" 210, Garcia has a much better frame to build on going forward. Garcia's SPARQ score was excellent and his 4.7 forty 4.31 shuttle and 32" vertical tells me he is a good athlete. At this point in his development, Garcia lacks explosive power but he has a very good base for Feely to work with. Garcia has a nonstop motor and is very open to coaching. The remarkable consistency in his tackling tells me that he values technique and is focused on details. Garcia also seems to have a good to very good ceiling that is achievable through hard work and a quality S&C which he would have here.

Flagg on the other hand is 5'10" with 4.9- 5.0 speed in the 40. Flagg also doesn't seem to possess the type of lateral quickness I like to see. Don't misunderstand me. I have a great deal of respect for the young man as he is a great football player with elite instincts and a desire to win. I just feel that Flagg's physical deficiencies could be greatly magnified on this level coupled with the possibility that Flagg may already be near maxed out in terms of his ceiling. With a couple of years in our S&C he may very well overcome his physical flaws and allow his special instincts to take over. Some have said that Flagg's ceiling is Mike Smith and I would be fine with that as Smith developed into a very productive and capable backup. They can't all be starters and if Flagg becomes a Mike Smith level backup while also contributing on special teams then the take would be well worth it. I just happen to like Garcia's ceiling better at this point but like I said, it's just my humble opinion.

I think Garcia is a take is a year take where we're not looking at bringing in guys to play right away. We're looking for immediate impact players or stop-gap types guys, until we get the "Justin Flowe's", where we have to develop for 1 to 3 years.
Just not in that position right now, and this isn't a discussion of previous LB recruiting.

 

[TrueFloridian]

Garcia is a gayturd lover...nuff said.

 

[Gandara]

Garcia is a gayturd lover...nuff said.

Na he would pick Miami over any other school in the country

 

[2.0]

Garcia was the kid begging for a Cane offer and then Baker went and watched him and he was making no plays.

That ship sailed. Flagg probably plays against tougher competition than Garcia also. Ill take 5A Houston district over whatever district AH played last year or what STA plays this year.

 

[Trav]

Garcia was the kid begging for a Cane offer and then Baker went and watched him and he was making no plays.

That ship sailed. Flagg probably plays against tougher competition than Garcia also. Ill take 5A Houston district over whatever district AH played last year or what STA plays this year.

LOL WHAT??

NEXT GAME: Friday, Aug 23

St. Thomas Aquinasvs.De La Salle

The St. Thomas Aquinas varsity football team has an away non-conference game @ De La Salle (Concord, CA) on Friday, August 23.

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Date	Opponent	Result
8/23TBA	@ De La Salle (Concord, CA) Location: De La Salle High School	Preview Game
8/317:00p	Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) Game Details: St. Thomas Aquinas HS, Fort Lauderdale, FL	Preview Game
9/137:00p	@ South Plantation (Plantation, FL) Location: South Plantation High School	Preview GameWatch Live Broadcast
9/207:00p	Miramar (Miramar, FL) Location: St. Thomas Aquinas High School	Preview Game
9/277:00p	Carol City (Miami, FL) Location: St. Thomas Aquinas High School	Preview Game
10/47:00p	Deerfield (Deerfield, IL) Location: St. Thomas Aquinas High School	Preview Game
10/47:00p	@ Plantation (Plantation, FL) Location: Plantation High School	Preview Game
10/117:00p	Plantation (Plantation, FL) Location: St. Thomas Aquinas High School	Preview Game
10/187:00p	Deerfield Beach (Deerfield Beach, FL) Location: St. Thomas Aquinas High School	Preview Game
10/257:00p	@ Fort Lauderdale (Fort Lauderdale, FL) Location: Fort Lauderdale High School	Preview Game
11/17:00p	@ Western (Davie, FL) Location: Western High School	Preview Game

 

[2.0]

South Plantation - Trash
Miramar - underachievers
Carol City - Wont be as good as last years team
Deerfield - IL - Went 4-5 last year in Suburban Chicago Rich kid ball - Trash
Plantation - Trash
Plantation - Still trash
Fort Lauderdale - Trash

I dont even see STA beating De La Salle, Bergan Catholic, or Deerfield Beach this year. De La Salle is probably the third best team in Cali, Bergan Catholic is probably the best team in all of the Northeast and Deerfield Beach is stacked.

 

[jw410]

They need to schedule more games and **** either no one wants to play them or **** looks like trash

 

[gogeta4]

South Plantation - Trash
Miramar - underachievers
Carol City - Wont be as good as last years team
Deerfield - IL - Went 4-5 last year in Suburban Chicago Rich kid ball - Trash
Plantation - Trash
Plantation - Still trash
Fort Lauderdale - Trash

I dont even see STA beating De La Salle, Bergan Catholic, or Deerfield Beach this year. De La Salle is probably the third best team in Cali, Bergan Catholic is probably the best team in all of the Northeast and Deerfield Beach is stacked.

Huh?? lol thats a tough *** schedule...LOL Miramar is the 1 team that has played STA tough or beat them in south florida.

Carol City is Carol City not being good as last years team...means what actually? They were freakin loaded....guess what....they still are. The only team that is legitimately trash is south plant. Every last one of those other teams are littered with div 1 players up and down their roster.

But umm yea im taking Broward County football over that district...feel how you wanna feel about it...the nfl draft is saying different every year.

Also im not sure who they were talking about is Garcia..considering sta doesnt play a spring game.

Heritage played last year against-

Carol City, Chaminade, Cardinal Gibbons, Miramar, St Josephs (new jersey), Rockledge

Yea umm...you might wanna fact check your statements. lol

 

[Canes2082]

Huh?? lol thats a tough *** schedule...LOL Miramar is the 1 team that has played STA tough or beat them in south florida.

Carol City is Carol City not being good as last years team...means what actually? They were freakin loaded....guess what....they still are. The only team that is legitimately trash is south plant. Every last one of those other teams are littered with div 1 players up and down their roster.

But umm yea im taking Broward County football over that district...feel how you wanna feel about it...the nfl draft is saying different every year.

Also im not sure who they were talking about is Garcia..considering sta doesnt play a spring game.

Heritage played last year against-

Carol City, Chaminade, Cardinal Gibbons, Miramar, St Josephs (new jersey), Rockledge

Yea umm...you might wanna fact check your statements. lol

Miramar always gives STA fits