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And so it begins.. SEC & BIG flexing

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As it sits right now, I can count TEN $EC teams that have one loss or less and all 10 would be b!tching and moaning for their playoff spot. It's what they do. The season doesn't end today and there's a lot of football yet to be played. I can almost guarantee all that a 3 loss Georgia team will get into the playoffs over a one loss ACC team, assuming that team is not the ACC winner.

While I agree with @OrangeBowlMagic that this was always the plan (duh, why else would B1G take West Coast teams,etc.), I also agree with the fellas on here talking about the legality of this as it smells of anti-trust. Best outcome would be to blow it all up...ncaa, $ec, b1g, acc, big 12, Mountain Worst, MAC....all of them. Go geographic, limit it to 96 teams max, then worry about some sort of alignment for structure's sake. It'll never happen that simply, but it is a simple solution.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
A friendly wager of whatever you’d like.
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If the wager is that the SEC and B10 form a league and compete for a championship to the exclusion of all the other power conference schools, I’ll bet you a bottle of your favorite liquor. Congress will intervene before that happens. Now, if the SEC and B10 “expand” by absorbing a large contingent of those current outsiders, then that’s a different story.
 
dycane said:
If the wager is that the SEC and B10 form a league and compete for a championship to the exclusion of all the other power conference schools, I’ll bet you a bottle of your favorite liquor. Congress will intervene before that happens. Now, if the SEC and B10 “expand” by absorbing a large contingent of those current outsiders, then that’s a different story.
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I think both of those things will happen. But essentially, in the next decade, the SEC (whatever it looks like) and the Big 10 will have their own league and will play against each other for a championship. Whatever schools are left behind will be in a totally different league and will have zero involvement with the other P2 schools.
 
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Hoyacane1620 said:
“Sources in both leagues told ESPN on Monday they would prefer to have potentially four automatic bids each to the playoff when the next contract begins in 2026,” “CFP leaders haven’t determined yet what the playoff will look like beyond this season and next. Some said they need to know that before making any decisions about future scheduling partnerships.”


Per Heather Dinich, ESPN
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The ACC doesn't do themselves any favors aside from Clemson and fsu (for 1-2 years).
Everyone else don't fare well vs SEC and Big10 schools and, worse, you have ACC teams
that have embarrassing out-of-conference losses only to defeat ACC teams in same season.
Bad look all-around.
 
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The B1G and SEC need to be careful from alienating the rest of the CFB world..they still NEED those fans to be a part of watching their teams, even if they're not fans.

I understand they have the most money and pull the most eyeballs on TV. But there's a big world of college football and right now everybody is in the same league.

If they continue down this path to create their "own league" they risk alienating themselves and losing a much larger portion of fans/eyeballs than they realize.
 
Yeah, they won't let this **** drop. If you're going to get it anyway you may as well make the appearance of being fair when possible. Strange PR.

Maybe there is something else they want in negotiations. Maybe they want to kill college football. Maybe it's the only financially substantial way they see to grow. Maybe they are consolidating power to finally take down the NCAA.

But in all seriousness: B1G is trash other than a few teams. SEC is overrated. **** em
 
This is why that mindset of “idc if all ACC teams go winless as long as we win” is a bit confusing. We NEED them to do well, not just for SOS but when you watch Syracuse lose to Stanford, Wake forest lose to louisiana, VT loses to Vandy/Rutgers and now WE almost lost to VT it now makes US look bad when our conference has embarrassing losses.

This argument stands on the Fact the ACC/Big12 are not Good. The ACC is a basketball school and so is the Big12, but football trumps Basketball by miles. We already know the SEC wants no part of us and the Big10 would be a HUGE pain in the *** with Washington/Oregon/UCLA/USC in there travel wise.

The better the ACC looks the better Miami looks. Simple. One slip up over the next several weeks and we will get the FSU treatment and will just be “benefiting off of a easy schedule”

My hopes are this playoff sorts itself out and it shows that the top of the Big12/ACC is just as competitive as the Big10/SEC.

I’m also getting real ******* tired of all the higher ups fiddling with these conferences/playoffs/automatic bids etc etc, let the games sort out who deserves the top 12. Not conference affiliation.

Maybe go a route similar to. CBB and implement a Quad system for Quad 1/2/3/4 wins & losses to better judge opponents?

IMO we should look into the Big12 before we look into the Big10/SEC, they’ve quietly put together a very strong conference.
 
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ristwasdown said:
Who wants to watch two conferences play where 1/3 of each conference makes it to a playoff?

Just seems counterintuitive to what makes college football fun to watch.
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“You’re diminishing the importance of regular season games.”

“….But also, we should get more teams in automatically despite their regular season performance relative to the rest of the country”
 
It’s the beginning of the end for this college football format and in the early stages of the new world of the P2.
 
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ristwasdown said:
Who wants to watch two conferences play where 1/3 of each conference makes it to a playoff?

Just seems counterintuitive to what makes college football fun to watch.
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This hasn’t mattered since the BCS started.

The NFL is not produced for the fans.

College football is not produced for the fans.

No major sport is produced for the fans who support it.

Your passion is a bank account they want to drain.

Think of yourself as an investment strategy: you are financially and emotionally married to a product, no matter how bad it makes you feel.

Nothing else in life would you give this much time, focus, or money to. Especially as often as it disappoints you.

The names and logos aside, this is not the sport we fell in love with.

This is a business.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
This hasn’t mattered since the BCS started.

The NFL is not produced for the fans.

College football is not produced for the fans.

No major sport is produced for the fans who support it.

Your passion is a bank account they want to drain.

Think of yourself as an investment strategy: you are financially and emotionally married to a product, no matter how bad it makes you feel.

Nothing else in life would you give this much time, focus, or money to. Especially as often as it disappoints you.

The names and logos aside, this is not the sport we fell in love with.

This is a business.
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You are sitting in the lotus position right now aren't you?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think both of those things will happen. But essentially, in the next decade, the SEC (whatever it looks like) and the Big 10 will have their own league and will play against each other for a championship. Whatever schools are left behind will be in a totally different league and will have zero involvement with the other P2 schools.
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The ACC is fine man... .we are 5-0 and people are lulled back into foolishness... brains as ironclad as the GoR....
 
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