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Coach Macho said:
Losing to Pitt, getting slaughtered by Clemson and allowing a bunch of white kids from Wisconsin to run through our secondary didn't exactly help our chances with these kids IMO.

As fans, our logic is "come to Miami and that won't happen", but kids don't always think like that. They want to jump on with a winner. Why does this surprise anybody, coming from kids who chose to play at a loaded private school?

Considering the landscape of high school football these days, I don't know why fans expect anything different. These kids are front-runners all the way down to the optimist level. How else do you explain schools like STA getting 10+ upperclassmen transfers every season?

When STA/AH calls, kids come running. It's a mystique/status thing at this point, doesn't even matter how well your home school did. It's no different in college.
Your home school just went 10-3 and you could be the difference maker that takes them to the next level. Buuuuuut Bama and Georgia just played for an NC and are already at that level, and they want you just as bad. See ya!

It's a shame but that's the way it is. We need to start winning more. And I think this class helped move us in that direction. Another big season or two and we won't be missing out on these kids as much.
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I agree on your points. Also the aspect of playing for a team that sends so many players to the next level also factors in.
 

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Coach Macho said:
Losing to Pitt, getting slaughtered by Clemson and allowing a bunch of white kids from Wisconsin to run through our secondary didn't exactly help our chances with these kids IMO.

As fans, our logic is "come to Miami and that won't happen", but kids don't always think like that. They want to jump on with a winner. Why does this surprise anybody, coming from kids who chose to play at a loaded private school?

Considering the landscape of high school football these days, I don't know why fans expect anything different. These kids are front-runners all the way down to the optimist level. How else do you explain schools like STA getting 10+ upperclassmen transfers every season?

When STA/AH calls, kids come running. It's a mystique/status thing at this point, doesn't even matter how well your home school did. It's no different in college.
Your home school just went 10-3 and you could be the difference maker that takes them to the next level. Buuuuuut Bama and Georgia just played for an NC and are already at that level, and they want you just as bad. See ya!

It's a shame but that's the way it is. We need to start winning more. And I think this class helped move us in that direction. Another big season or two and we won't be missing out on these kids as much.
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I agree, winning will cure our problems with top kids.
 
I’m just gonna go back to what I said in the Juedy. We’ll recruit Dade well with 10 win seasons because they consider Miami home obviously BUT not in Broward. Those guys will always go to the hottest team even if they were in Alaska.
 
Coach Macho said:
Losing to Pitt, getting slaughtered by Clemson and allowing a bunch of white kids from Wisconsin to run through our secondary didn't exactly help our chances with these kids IMO.

As fans, our logic is "come to Miami and that won't happen", but kids don't always think like that. They want to jump on with a winner. Why does this surprise anybody, coming from kids who chose to play at a loaded private school?

Considering the landscape of high school football these days, I don't know why fans expect anything different. These kids are front-runners all the way down to the optimist level. How else do you explain schools like STA getting 10+ upperclassmen transfers every season?

When STA/AH calls, kids come running. It's a mystique/status thing at this point, doesn't even matter how well your home school did. It's no different in college.
Your home school just went 10-3 and you could be the difference maker that takes them to the next level. Buuuuuut Bama and Georgia just played for an NC and are already at that level, and they want you just as bad. See ya!

It's a shame but that's the way it is. We need to start winning more. And I think this class helped move us in that direction. Another big season or two and we won't be missing out on these kids as much.
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Bingo
 
Astcloud11 said:
pacusmc said:
Donate money to a school on the basis that the recruits goes to said university. Compensate your head coach according to where the kid signs. Kid has been essentially extorted. Everyone around him including his fam coaches and teammates are now extended dpendants. Why all the hype with these private school signings? It’s part of the deal to get the school exposure. When everyone around you is depending on a bag drop you can’t look at the camera. Nesta was gonna nesta, Blades almost left if we didn’t hire CMR. If we ain’t dropping bags stay away from all private school and academies and boarding schools etc.
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lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo you lost me when you really think Al Blades would've left. Kid was about to sign for Al Golden.
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Forget his comment about Blades. I agree with the rest of his post 100%.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Nothing happened at Heritage. Those kids like Rumph. Ironically, we ended up signing the one kid that has the worst relationship with Rumph. (Nesta) If a relationship with Rumph was a selling point then we **** sure wouldn't have got him.

Even if Rumph did badmouth Miami, that was the last coaching staff. He wasn't happy with the way they recruited. I doubt he said anything about the actual school though. That shouldn't even be an issue with today's recruits cause this is a completely different regime.

Based on my interactions with Rumph, he's a very chill guy. Great dude. But he doesn't strike me as a very persuasive person. And great recruiters are persuasive. They make kids believe that no other school is for them.

He seems like the type of guy who would tell the kids that he respects their decision no matter where they go.
I can't imagine the conversations that went on between Rumph/Surtain/Lucious during this recruiting process.
It would break my heart if one of my boys sent their kid to play for somebody else.
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This sounds right
 
Coach Macho said:
Nothing happened at Heritage. Those kids like Rumph. Ironically, we ended up signing the one kid that has the worst relationship with Rumph. (Nesta) If a relationship with Rumph was a selling point then we **** sure wouldn't have got him.

Even if Rumph did badmouth Miami, that was the last coaching staff. He wasn't happy with the way they recruited. I doubt he said anything about the actual school though. That shouldn't even be an issue with today's recruits cause this is a completely different regime.

Based on my interactions with Rumph, he's a very chill guy. Great dude. But he doesn't strike me as a very persuasive person. And great recruiters are persuasive. They make kids believe that no other school is for them.

He seems like the type of guy who would tell the kids that he respects their decision no matter where they go.
I can't imagine the conversations that went on between Rumph/Surtain/Lucious during this recruiting process.
It would break my heart if one of my boys sent their kid to play for somebody else.
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Oooh the irony. Dude recruiting at the same level Golden and company did.
 
Coach Macho said:
Nothing happened at Heritage. Those kids like Rumph. Ironically, we ended up signing the one kid that has the worst relationship with Rumph. (Nesta) If a relationship with Rumph was a selling point then we **** sure wouldn't have got him.

Even if Rumph did badmouth Miami, that was the last coaching staff. He wasn't happy with the way they recruited. I doubt he said anything about the actual school though. That shouldn't even be an issue with today's recruits cause this is a completely different regime.

Based on my interactions with Rumph, he's a very chill guy. Great dude. But he doesn't strike me as a very persuasive person. And great recruiters are persuasive. They make kids believe that no other school is for them.

He seems like the type of guy who would tell the kids that he respects their decision no matter where they go.
I can't imagine the conversations that went on between Rumph/Surtain/Lucious during this recruiting process.
It would break my heart if one of my boys sent their kid to play for somebody else.
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This is spot on. Macho, do you have an early read on how recruiting will go in the 19 cycle? I know there's again tons of talent in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach but are we going to see the elite of the elite (Ladson, Stevenson, etc.) head out of town next cycle?
 
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If Rumph is a great coach than three four-star corners should be enough to work with. Firing him wouldn’t be prudent.
 
Coach Macho said:
Losing to Pitt, getting slaughtered by Clemson and allowing a bunch of white kids from Wisconsin to run through our secondary didn't exactly help our chances with these kids IMO.

As fans, our logic is "come to Miami and that won't happen", but kids don't always think like that. They want to jump on with a winner. Why does this surprise anybody, coming from kids who chose to play at a loaded private school?

Considering the landscape of high school football these days, I don't know why fans expect anything different. These kids are front-runners all the way down to the optimist level. How else do you explain schools like STA getting 10+ upperclassmen transfers every season?

When STA/AH calls, kids come running. It's a mystique/status thing at this point, doesn't even matter how well your home school did. It's no different in college.
Your home school just went 10-3 and you could be the difference maker that takes them to the next level. Buuuuuut Bama and Georgia just played for an NC and are already at that level, and they want you just as bad. See ya!

It's a shame but that's the way it is. We need to start winning more. And I think this class helped move us in that direction. Another big season or two and we won't be missing out on these kids as much.
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I agree and when they go to these stacked teams and dont see the field then end up transferring, yes its best to go to a top level team but its also good to go to a top level team that has the right situation for them

Dont fault surtain going to bama he probably starting as a freshman with their depth at the position but Campbell going to UGA with their whole secondary coming back and that already has a couple of 5 star corners already already there proves your point

BTW those Wisconsin wideouts are legit, not saying we didn't **** the bed with coverages but that groupmof wideouts they have can play
 
Is Rumph a good enough position coach (technique, player development etc) to offset his apparent lack of recruiting ability?

Does he bring enough to the table coaching wise, to justify keeping him on the staff when he is a subpar recruiter? Does his good outweigh his bad?
 
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