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All joking aside....

Astcloud11 said:
pacusmc said:
Donate money to a school on the basis that the recruits goes to said university. Compensate your head coach according to where the kid signs. Kid has been essentially extorted. Everyone around him including his fam coaches and teammates are now extended dpendants. Why all the hype with these private school signings? It’s part of the deal to get the school exposure. When everyone around you is depending on a bag drop you can’t look at the camera. Nesta was gonna nesta, Blades almost left if we didn’t hire CMR. If we ain’t dropping bags stay away from all private school and academies and boarding schools etc.
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lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo you lost me when you really think Al Blades would've left. Kid was about to sign for Al Golden.
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he decommited after the Clemson loss.
 

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I guess these AH DBs just don't think Rumph can prepare them properly for the next level.

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Looks like Rick should have hired Choad Wilson because he’s got way more pull there than Trumph.
 
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boxtonenyc said:
Is there something that goes on at AH, or that went on, that repels players from wanting to be around Rumph?

I'm not kidding, at this point, the number of whiffs for one south florida school alone is bizarre, but for it to be a school whose HC is on our staff? It's unprecedented.

Now we know Rumph was very successful at funneling kids away from UM as AH's HC, and it seems that trend remains.

It is just such an absurd anomaly that so many former player would turn away from this guy. What the **** was going on there??
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Or maybe he was never funneling them and never could. For whatever reason kids from that school don't want to come to Miami. Probably something to do with their vaginas, but that's just a guess.
 
Nothing happened at Heritage. Those kids like Rumph. Ironically, we ended up signing the one kid that has the worst relationship with Rumph. (Nesta) If a relationship with Rumph was a selling point then we **** sure wouldn't have got him.

Even if Rumph did badmouth Miami, that was the last coaching staff. He wasn't happy with the way they recruited. I doubt he said anything about the actual school though. That shouldn't even be an issue with today's recruits cause this is a completely different regime.

Based on my interactions with Rumph, he's a very chill guy. Great dude. But he doesn't strike me as a very persuasive person. And great recruiters are persuasive. They make kids believe that no other school is for them.

He seems like the type of guy who would tell the kids that he respects their decision no matter where they go.
I can't imagine the conversations that went on between Rumph/Surtain/Lucious during this recruiting process.
It would break my heart if one of my boys sent their kid to play for somebody else.
 
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I've never have quite understood the AH/Miami deal. Rumph was coaching when all of this supposedly went down, but his main boys (Sony and McKenzie) went to UGA and CMR, while Coley was at Miami and allegedly gave them the cold shoulder. We all know Al was a slug, but now with CMR here, shouldn't that be a good trustworthy respectable relationship? Shouldn't Coley be the guy they have reservations about?

I think it is all hogwash and the SEC schools have some shady dealings year after year behind the scenes.
 
It’s a culture there, man. Plantation suburb kids are an odd bunch. These kids get recruited to play there as win a ton of games. There’s no city pride or hood pride with any of these kids - heck, even FSU and UF struggle to make inroads. These kids just have a different mentality. We need to not rely on IMG, AH, STA school outside of a cherry pick or 2. Let’s stick with the city schools down in Miami and occasionally make penetration where this type of **** is not rampant (central fla, PBC, Jax)
 
Those 2 kids just simply didn’t believe in our program.

This choice was simple for Campbell if he likes living in sfla...starting spot wide open, parents 30 mins away, top 10 head coach who sends players to the nfl, coached by hs coach and play on a roster full of Florida guys.

Surtain went to the best coach in NCAA. Case closed there
 
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Losing to Pitt, getting slaughtered by Clemson and allowing a bunch of white kids from Wisconsin to run through our secondary didn't exactly help our chances with these kids IMO.

As fans, our logic is "come to Miami and that won't happen", but kids don't always think like that. They want to jump on with a winner. Why does this surprise anybody, coming from kids who chose to play at a loaded private school?

Considering the landscape of high school football these days, I don't know why fans expect anything different. These kids are front-runners all the way down to the optimist level. How else do you explain schools like STA getting 10+ upperclassmen transfers every season?

When STA/AH calls, kids come running. It's a mystique/status thing at this point, doesn't even matter how well your home school did. It's no different in college.
Your home school just went 10-3 and you could be the difference maker that takes them to the next level. Buuuuuut Bama and Georgia just played for an NC and are already at that level, and they want you just as bad. See ya!

It's a shame but that's the way it is. We need to start winning more. And I think this class helped move us in that direction. Another big season or two and we won't be missing out on these kids as much.
 
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I'm a firm believer that in life, the truth usually lies in the middle. There are a lot of truths in this thread, both positive and negative against Rumph.

With all that said, the man is not a great recruiter. Period. The sunshine pumping Don Bailey Jr crowd will come to his rescue on this board but the man should simply be given very little recruiting responsibilities going forward. Just have him coach and if needs be add another ace recruiter to the staff to pick up the slack for him.

Someone, I think it was Coach Macho, in this thread mentioned he's not a very persuasive guy. Well guess what, not only is that kinda obvious but that trait is INHERENT in all great recruiters.
 
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Nothing happened at Heritage. Those kids like Rumph. Ironically, we ended up signing the one kid that has the worst relationship with Rumph. (Nesta) If a relationship with Rumph was a selling point then we **** sure wouldn't have got him.

Even if Rumph did badmouth Miami, that was the last coaching staff. He wasn't happy with the way they recruited. I doubt he said anything about the actual school though. That shouldn't even be an issue with today's recruits cause this is a completely different regime.

Based on my interactions with Rumph, he's a very chill guy. Great dude. But he doesn't strike me as a very persuasive person. And great recruiters are persuasive. They make kids believe that no other school is for them.

He seems like the type of guy who would tell the kids that he respects their decision no matter where they go.
I can't imagine the conversations that went on between Rumph/Surtain/Lucious during this recruiting process.
It would break my heart if one of my boys sent their kid to play for somebody else.
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Everything you're saying is believable but I don't care how chill a dude is. He doesn't take any of this as a personal insult- especially when a kid like Campbell basically goes public that we were his 3rd or 4th choice?

There's no way he's THAT laid back- and if he is then it's a problem in performing all of his job duties as a coach AND a recruiter and Rick needs to address it. I obviously don't mean fire him but work to change his style as that's something you'd do with a coach that was on the opposite end and too pushy or too much of a fake salesman type.
 
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When they said Rumph was like a father figure, I didn't think they meant it like the dad who went out for cigarettes and never came back
 
I could be wrong here, but there may be something to the anti-Canes sentiment out of Heritage and if I'm not mistaken it's coming from the very top of the administration's hierarchy. For years now, whether it's in football or basketball, their top kids usually go the SEC route alas UFlaw, UGa, LSU, etc. I never understood why, but as far back as the early 2000's this seems to the theme out of that school. They're the complete opposite of Gulliver Prep.
 
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