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Gross. Guess we're at that point again where the justifications for mediocrity come out. Read the same **** during the Coker and Shannon regimes. You'd figure fans that were around then would not be fooled a third time.
 
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Randy's recruiting pattern was like 2008>2009>2010>2011, his last class was totally a disaster. Al's recruiting is different story though.

Dan E. Dangerously said:
This is EXACTLY what we heard during the offseason after Randy's 3rd year. The only highlight of that final year was the "toonces" thread made about EddieCaneJr.
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Bicho said:
Some people need to realize that just because there is a U on your helmet doesn't you are good at football.
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Some people need to realize that just because a guy coaches at the U doesn't mean he's good at coaching.
 
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jmbflame21 said:
Did Randy have a top 5 class going into his 4th season? Nope. His class was no where close to the class Golden has coming in. However, I do agree that if we win less than 9 games next season, Golden will most likely be gone.


‏@smartfootball 12:54 PM - 29 Dec 13
Recruiting #1, player development a close #2, then scheme/system is a distant, distant third. In game dec'ns 4th

recruiting recruiting recruiting!
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For all of his allegedly genius recruiting compared to Shanntard, Corch Al relied mostly on Shanntard's players in his 3rd year here.
 
We will never win the ACC under this man. His defensive philosophy and background is utter garbage. It stinks to high heaven.

Give me Charlie strong today and I'm doing backflips over train tracks.
 
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BoxingRobes said:
Gross. Guess we're at that point again where the justifications for mediocrity come out. Read the same **** during the Coker and Shannon regimes. You'd figure fans that were around then would not be fooled a third time.
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As the saying goes, you can't fix stupid.
 
Bicho said:
Wins since Golden got here.

Are there troubling patterns? absolutely

Has the win total gone up each year so far? absolutely

Take a step off the ledge and realize rome wasn't built in a day

chicken salad was not made out of chick $%^&

And oh yea the national media calling for the death penalty didn't help either.
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I agree with Bicho,there has been improvement in some areas. I feel like most fans that his undoing will be his blind loyalty to his DC. If next season is more of the same he may start to feel the heat from his employers, not just the fans.
 
DeadPoets said:
We will never win the ACC under this man. His defensive philosophy and background is utter garbage. It stinks to high heaven.

Give me Charlie strong today and I'm doing backflips over train tracks.
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Why stop at Strong, why not just get Saban right away and be done with it. I am sure that both of them are just itching to make the jump from their current jobs to come to Miami......LOL.

Instead of backflips just go stand on the train tracks and wait.
 
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You can't make a statement like 6,7,9 without acknowledging the fact the schedules have progressively gotten easier over the same respective timeframe.

I like your post for the most part Bicho...but right now you're the guy who 10 years ago was standing on a soapbox yelling "Coker has a 80% win percentage plus a national championship" in response to the masses sharpening their pitchforks.

I'm an accountant...if anyone in this world can tell and assure you that numbers lie and can be construed in any way you want to support a particular argument....it's me.

This offseason will give all the final confirmation we need. If Golden doesn't fire Onfrio and in general give the staff a shake up then I'll go on record as saying there is a negative % chance he ever wins big here. The best coaches are cut throat, spot problems early, and fix them no matter how ruthless the circumstances.

But please stop with the win total chant.
 
I don't care about the record. At all.

I care about the brand of football we are playing.

I'd be much happier if we lost a few more games over the last 3 seasons but our overall play was progressing and giving us real hope for the future.

But it isn't. We consistently look disorganized. We consistently look soft. And we are consistently out-coached.

Waiting for the other shoe to drop is just a formality. I'd rather be proactive and start fixing things now.
 
Jeffrey Lebowski said:
Dandycane said:
Jeffrey Lebowski said:
If Randy Shannon got 4 years, why wouldn't Al Golden get the same?
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al has a project that is more difficult than what Shans faced? No quick fix to this mess. only recruiting will solve it...and weve got a good recruiter at the helm.
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I should have said at least the same. I was referring to those calling for him to be fired after year 3.
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Everyone realizes Corch Al isn't getting fired this year. He's earned it like so many others who were fired by schools whose fans won't tolerate this sort of loser ****, but it's definitely not going to happen. Some of us, however, are saying that he's done nothing more than the previous guy results-wise and that it looks like he's meandering down that same path.
 
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BosCane said:
I don't care about the record. At all.

I care about the brand of football we are playing.

I'd be much happier if we lost a few more games over the last 3 seasons but our overall play was progressing and giving us real hope for the future.

But it isn't. We consistently look disorganized. We consistently look soft. And we are consistently out-coached.

Waiting for the other shoe to drop is just a formality. I'd rather be proactive and start fixing things now.
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Exactly. Anyone who watched us get progressively worse over the course of the season and thinks that this fat sweaty mutton head is going to magically transform into a winning HC is dumber than Corch Al is.
 
Thoughtsoncanes said:
1-12 vs teams that won 8 or more games

Patience! Core Values! The Cloud ! Potato!
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Jedi Master Cane said:
You can't make a statement like 6,7,9 without acknowledging the fact the schedules have progressively gotten easier over the same respective timeframe
But please stop with the win total chant.
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Please show how the schedule has gotten easier?
This was the best Duke team ever.
This years FSU team is being considered among their best of all time.
This year's VT team was better then last years.
GT's was also
We also played the UF team when they were at FULL strength.

As for measuring progress. Last years team would have won 5 games with this year's schedule with losses coming against UNC, UF, WF, PITT.
 
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