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I don’t know what DJ ever did to you but it’s quite obvious you have no clue in this case.
Fact of the matter is for a guy to score TD’s in every facet of the game including special teams makes him a MF Beast.
You have no idea WTF you’re talking about.
that kid runs, catches, blocks, hits, scores at a very high level consistently. That’s a MF beast.
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I’ll agree that beast was too strong and a bad choice of word. I’ll also agree that fumbling was an issue.
I will rephrase my original comment to say that I think Deejay is the starter and will be a big part of the offense.
But the stats definitely don’t tell the whole story. Many people - including you - have said we can’t judge the offensive talent based on the last few years due to richt’s ineptness and a subpar OL. ****, we had to resort to a DJ-led wildcat cause we couldn’t convert a 3rd and 1 otherwise.
He is our Swiss Army knife. I think he played at 220 lbs last year, which was likely a conscious decision by the staff due to need. It definitely hurt his top end speed. I’d like to see him playing around 210.
Duke Johnson scored 19 td’s in his first two years on 356 touches & didn’t return punts
DJ scores 10 td’s in two years on 194 touches.
I think you outta chill out for a long while.
Being a Swiss Army knife makes you a beast for this team.
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Didn’t deejay get most of those tds within the goaline? Is deejay as dynamic or as efficient of a runner than duke even ? Naw man...
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I believe Shaq and Pinckney will have a significant jump but in terms of the number of solo tackles and overall tackles is what I was referring to bc the game has changed they are asked to do more than what Dan Morgan had to do out of the linebacker position.
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The safety position is my biggest question mark on defense. We've seen the DL have to replace huge contributors each year Manny's been here and yet we've never skipped a beat. We lose Willis but we gained solid depth at DT and with a great combination of veterans and talented young guys.
The safety situation however is something we haven't seen before. No veteran presence, no returning starter, no significant playing time for either expected starter. I wonder if we see a change in aggressive mentality if the safeties can't be trusted and how much that'll affect our defense.
The safety situation however is something we haven't seen before. No veteran presence, no returning starter, no significant playing time for either expected starter. I wonder if we see a change in aggressive mentality if the safeties can't be trusted and how much that'll affect our defense.
Looks like he averaged around 5.6 yards a carry which would place him in the 45-50 of CFB Running Backs In 2018 if he had the attempts.
Now if you want to tell me that he his cardio was bad and the fumbles I agree.
But dude is a super talented player.
Show me one guy in Richts offense that actually exceeded their potential and put up insane numbers from a volume perspective?
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Yeah, but I don't at all mean statistically. I really feel both our LBs have another gear. I have no idea how high that can go, so I'll be looking to see if they do, in fact, become dominant. With the chances for TFLs and the insane amount of plays they're likely to be on the field for, they'll have chances to make a big impact (and hopefully a leap).
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What he averaged in the last 8 games though?
I feel you if you look over the years Shaq and Pick have left a lot of plays on the field. Whether it be missing tackles. shooting the wrong gap, and in general just not having discipline.
Each got a wake up call last year from the draft advisory board and being their last season they should have an insane sense of urgency.
Look I get it, you want To use the last 8 games to frame your argument and that’s fine.
I guess we’ll see this season.
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Yeah we will see, I hope He has improved. Yes new offense and whatever but I didnt Forget the 2 fumbles he had vs duke late which were both lost, when the bc game was 17-14 in the 3rd he fielded a quick and was out at the 1 yard line in which malik threw an int on the next play on a short field which aided points. In addition to fumbling a kick off return vs ga tech where they scored a td shortly after. In addition to that the inefficient running that took place from the FSU game on. There are clear concerns there for me
He is dynamic..as a pure football player & you just can’t recognize that. Guys that can run, catch, block, hit, tackle, & make routine plays are dynamic. He might not a game changing speed or explosiveness but his attributes makes him a beast football player in totality.
I didn’t call him a beast at RB. He’s a beast football player.
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Good points don’t get me wrong, I like him as a jack of all trade type of offensive player and he is a pure football player. I’m Just not necessarily sold on him being the lead back when you have cam and lingard on the roster and based on how he finished last year. Imo we need to use him like ncstate used Jaylen Samuel alittle bit which was all over the field to maximize what he’s capable of
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1. QB: Will whoever is selected at QB, assuming Enos' effectiveness and a more varied attack, give us a significant leap from Malik Rosier version 2017?
YES, IF ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PLAYCALLING, IMPROVED COACHING AND DISCIPLINE.
2. OL: Who will solidify themselves as the best Tackle combination and spark a domino effect for remainder of the OL? (Zion/Scaife, Scaife/Herbert, etc.)
BIG OPEN QUESTION AND PERHAPS THE BIGGEST UNKNOWN. DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER
3. RB: Will Harris or Lingard make a sophomore leap into superstardom. I'm not talking about natural progression or Travis Homer's leap in 2017. I'm talking Clinton Portis flashes when he made the leap.
YES. HARRIS IS A YOUR STUD. HARD RUNNER WITH SPEED. HE'LL MAKE A TREMENDOUS LEAP, GOOD ENOUGH TO SATISFY YOUR CONCERN.
4. WR: Will JT and Pope be used as they should - being moved around, jet sweeps, option routes, etc.? This alone can change 3rd down conversion %.
YES. THIS WILL CHANGE THE OFFENSIVE PRODUCTION BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
5. TE: Will the TEs be used in a way to dictate defensive coverage? Another enormous factor in the transformation of 3rd down conversion %.
YES, WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL, CREATIVITY AND SCHEME. HOPEFULLY THE QB WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEM THE THE BALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.
Defense
1. DT: My second biggest question on the team in terms of the committee approach we seem to be heading toward. Who will disrupt 3rd down pockets? Who will consistently collapse plays to get teams behind schedule, as per Manny's previous system requires. I'm fine with getting it from a committee, but someone needs to leap.
I'M NOT SOLD ON NESTA BEING AT THE SAME LEVEL AS NORTON OR WILLIS. FORD IS AN UNKNOWN COMMODITY. SECOND BIGGEST CONCERN AFTER THE OL. I THINK THE DL GETS IT DONE, BUT NO ONE DT IS GOING TO SHINE.
2. S: My third biggest question on the team is whether our young Safeties will be adequate or surprise in comparison to two experienced, NFL-level Safeties who'd played in our defensive system that places a lot of pressure on Safeties.
THEY WILL BE ADEQUATE BUT NOT STELLAR, THAT WILL BE NEXT YEAR.
3. DE: Will Hill be healthy, Rousseau make a leap and Garvin show out in his contract year to the level of what I've called the best pass rushing trio in the country? The numbers would have to show 35+ TFLs between them, if healthy.
OUR DLINE EXCELLENCE WILL COME FROM THE OUTSIDE, NOT THE MIDDLE. GARVIN AND HILL WILL PRODUCE, ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR THE STEP BACK AT DT.
4. LB: Will Pinck or Shaq have a Dan Morgan-type senior year?
YES, BOTH WILL NOT LEAVE PLAYS ON THE FIELD LIKE THEY HAVE CONSISTENTLY DONE THE LAST THREE YEARS.
5. CB: Will the second corner (Ivey?) make a leap like Michael Jackson in 2017?
RUMPH HAS PRODUCED IN COACHING UP OUR PLAYERS. NOTHING CHANGES AND IVEY STEPS UP.
YES, IF ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PLAYCALLING, IMPROVED COACHING AND DISCIPLINE.
2. OL: Who will solidify themselves as the best Tackle combination and spark a domino effect for remainder of the OL? (Zion/Scaife, Scaife/Herbert, etc.)
BIG OPEN QUESTION AND PERHAPS THE BIGGEST UNKNOWN. DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER
3. RB: Will Harris or Lingard make a sophomore leap into superstardom. I'm not talking about natural progression or Travis Homer's leap in 2017. I'm talking Clinton Portis flashes when he made the leap.
YES. HARRIS IS A YOUR STUD. HARD RUNNER WITH SPEED. HE'LL MAKE A TREMENDOUS LEAP, GOOD ENOUGH TO SATISFY YOUR CONCERN.
4. WR: Will JT and Pope be used as they should - being moved around, jet sweeps, option routes, etc.? This alone can change 3rd down conversion %.
YES. THIS WILL CHANGE THE OFFENSIVE PRODUCTION BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
5. TE: Will the TEs be used in a way to dictate defensive coverage? Another enormous factor in the transformation of 3rd down conversion %.
YES, WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL, CREATIVITY AND SCHEME. HOPEFULLY THE QB WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEM THE THE BALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.
Defense
1. DT: My second biggest question on the team in terms of the committee approach we seem to be heading toward. Who will disrupt 3rd down pockets? Who will consistently collapse plays to get teams behind schedule, as per Manny's previous system requires. I'm fine with getting it from a committee, but someone needs to leap.
I'M NOT SOLD ON NESTA BEING AT THE SAME LEVEL AS NORTON OR WILLIS. FORD IS AN UNKNOWN COMMODITY. SECOND BIGGEST CONCERN AFTER THE OL. I THINK THE DL GETS IT DONE, BUT NO ONE DT IS GOING TO SHINE.
2. S: My third biggest question on the team is whether our young Safeties will be adequate or surprise in comparison to two experienced, NFL-level Safeties who'd played in our defensive system that places a lot of pressure on Safeties.
THEY WILL BE ADEQUATE BUT NOT STELLAR, THAT WILL BE NEXT YEAR.
3. DE: Will Hill be healthy, Rousseau make a leap and Garvin show out in his contract year to the level of what I've called the best pass rushing trio in the country? The numbers would have to show 35+ TFLs between them, if healthy.
OUR DLINE EXCELLENCE WILL COME FROM THE OUTSIDE, NOT THE MIDDLE. GARVIN AND HILL WILL PRODUCE, ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR THE STEP BACK AT DT.
4. LB: Will Pinck or Shaq have a Dan Morgan-type senior year?
YES, BOTH WILL NOT LEAVE PLAYS ON THE FIELD LIKE THEY HAVE CONSISTENTLY DONE THE LAST THREE YEARS.
5. CB: Will the second corner (Ivey?) make a leap like Michael Jackson in 2017?
RUMPH HAS PRODUCED IN COACHING UP OUR PLAYERS. NOTHING CHANGES AND IVEY STEPS UP.
The fumbles were bad - but I feel the need to defend Deejay
BC - Yes, he botched a kickoff at the 2. But next play he busts an 8 yd run to get to 2nd & short on the 10. Malik threw an INT 2 plays later that had nothing to do with DJ. DJ had big kickoff returns and ran for a TD. while Malik threw for 150 yds & 2 INT's
Duke - the 2 fumbles hurt, but they only led to 3 Duke points. DJ also ran for 124 yds and a TD while our QB's passed for 111 yds.
GT - He was actually efficient this game. He had 5 straight runs inside the 15 on our first drive which he picked up a 3rd & 6 and punched in a TD. His fumble that led to GT TD and N'Kosi only throwing for 165 yds definitely hurt though.
In these 3 games we scored 7 TD's (Deejay scored 3 of them) and 0 FG's. He made some bad plays, but also had some big ones. QB play is the main thing that killed us. His bad plays contributed to the losses, but there's a laundry list of other reasons that also factored in.
I get the concern, but I'm pretty confident you'll come back around on Deejay this year.
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We replaced Rayshawn Jenkins & Jamal Carter in 2016 after their Senior years with Jaquan Johnson & Sheldrick Redwine. And Redwine was a converted CB that had never played Safety before.
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Those fumbles greatly attributed to the 3 losses imo especially the ga tech and duke games. But i hope he proves me wrong too and as you said there are concerns there for sure. Pretty sure on the duke fumbles Miami had momentum and at least one was near midfield. Not only that but that was a point swing because who’s to say we wouldn’t have scored on that drive if not because of the fumble
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