#35 spring workout Ray Ray - Is this real?

That's irrespective of the point I made.

My point is a 40 time is not a good projector of NFL success. The majority of NFL receivers have been successful based on their skill, timing, and competitiveness -- not their 40 time.
This is a crazy hill to climb. You have 0 data to prove this.
 

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This is a crazy hill to climb. You have 0 data to prove this.

Hermano...

Jake Bobo: 4.99
Jarvis Landry: 4.77
Jauan Jennings: 4.72
Larry Fitzgerald: 4.63
Keenan Allen: 4.71
Jerry Rice: 4.71
Chris Carter: 4.63
Anquan Boldin: 4.71
Chad Johnson: 4.57

Take into account, any receiver who runs a 4.4 at the combine is probably not doing so a few years later.

The best TE's and Slot receivers are not fast, rather, smart.. While speed is a luxury, it's nowhere near a requisite to mediocrity or greatness.
 
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Was his HS ranking just overrated and therefore the expectations unfair? I know we flipped him from Clemson but still…
 
I'm sorry. As everybody knows high I am on Toney and I know he should start over #35

Just seeing this today and honestly am shocked and awful he looks. Is this a prank or what am I missing here?


Had this conversation last week about him. Hate to say it but he seems to be the poster child to one of my main issues with nil. If all you're doing this for is some bread and you don't understand big picture what keeps that hunger in people? I know he's recovering from a procedure just after the bowl, but he's looking underwhelming I'll just say...
 
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I'll keep saying he needs to play RB
Brother not trying to take any shots. But when's the last time you actually saw Ray Ray? I'm at the point that I'd keep saying he needs to play soccer. Great kid. But this is simply about talent and I'm not positive whats going on with him. But he shouldn't be in the two deep at any position at this point. Unless this recovery is just behind. Cause something is off with him.
 
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I'm sorry. As everybody knows high I am on Toney and I know he should start over #35

Just seeing this today and honestly am shocked and awful he looks. Is this a prank or what am I missing here?


I hope he has a breakthrough year and I am confident he will. But what you are watching is a footwork drill. It’s about footwork and not speed. In these drills you runs half speed.
 
Brother not trying to take any shots. But when's the last time you actually saw Ray Ray? I'm at the point that I'd keep saying he needs to play soccer. Great kid. But this is simply about talent and I'm not positive whats going on with him. But he shouldn't be in the two deep at any position at this point. Unless this recovery is just behind. Cause something is seriously wrong this off-season with him. He's running around like he got his hands on some bad **** or something.
Last week lol and ya I don’t know he would make anything out of playing RB but he would be better than at WR. I agree completely that he shouldn’t be in the 2 deep anywhere
 
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Hermano...

Jake Bobo: 4.99
Jarvis Landry: 4.77
Jauan Jennings: 4.72
Larry Fitzgerald: 4.63
Keenan Allen: 4.71
Jerry Rice: 4.71
Chris Carter: 4.63
Anquan Boldin: 4.71
Chad Johnson: 4.57

Take into account, any receiver who runs a 4.4 at the combine is probably not doing so a few years later.

The best TE's and Slot receivers are not fast, rather, smart.. While speed is a luxury, it's nowhere near a requisite to mediocrity or greatness.
This is 2025 Hermano. Time to hop back in the DeLorean.
 
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