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Rellyrell said:


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Will be the most successful orchestrated prospect drop in years.

Props to the Front office (Team President, GM, Player Personnel & Scouts) who pulled this off.

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Rellyrell said:
So has Pitching & Batting, no? Didn’t some dude w/ a mafia last name do it for the Gators at an extremely high level? ****, didn’t that same dude last season rock our world from the plate & the mound?

We’ve never seen what Travis Hunter has done, not even from Charles Woodson or Deion Sanders. He’s been elite at it at the collegiate level. There’s a specific reason why we don’t see it b/c football, not baseball, not basketball is the most physically demanding sport along w/ hockey.
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Caglione, pitching severely fell off his last year though
 
Hoyacane1620 said:



Interesting podcast. McShay talks about some conversations he had regarding Shedeur with two different teams in the top 10 who need a QB. Both basically said they had an "official" meeting with him at the Combine and that they got the feeling that "he didn't take the meeting seriously". They both implied it wasn't a very professional approach on his part to what is essentially a job interview. McShay throws out a few thoughts on why Sanders may have this approach, one of which is that he may already be aware of some back door deals going on regarding where he is going and simply isn't concerned about those two teams. McShay brings up the comments Deion has made about wanting Shadeur to go to certain teams. He also points out that networks have alot invested in making sure this draft is watched and keeping Deion, Shadeur and Travis Hunter attending in Green Bay is important....


a little conspiracy theory stuff ....
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Rellyrell said:
So has Pitching & Batting, no? Didn’t some dude w/ a mafia last name do it for the Gators at an extremely high level? ****, didn’t that same dude last season rock our world from the plate & the mound?

We’ve never seen what Travis Hunter has done, not even from Charles Woodson or Deion Sanders. He’s been elite at it at the collegiate level. There’s a specific reason why we don’t see it b/c football, not baseball, not basketball is the most physically demanding sport along w/ hockey.
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Slight wager he's not featured wherever they draft him at both positions? Like not even 35% of the teams offensive snaps in his rookie season... Not trying to knock the kid but people are setting unrealistic expectations for him if they think what he did in college will be done at the NFL level. The big 12 or whatever Colorado plays in is a drastic difference from AFC, NFC... Justsayin
 
Gransapo said:
I was watching Hard Knocks with my daughter. She is getting into a more competitive atmosphere in her respective sport. I try to watch sport documentaries with her so she understands what it takes and the mindset of the people she is going to be competing against. We hadn't finish watching Episode 2 of Hard Rocks and she turned to me and said, "that guy (Schoen) is an idiot, Dad."
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That's what cracks me up. The fans that see the moves he's made, let alone watched hard knocks and saw his actual moves and interactions yet still defend him... It's not like it takes a savant to realize the guy is a ****** buffoon.
 
BoxingRobes said:
I think he'd be a high draft pick in any year.

Non-QB, RB Heisman winners of recent vintage include - Hunter, Devonta Smith (10th pick), Charles Woodson (4th pick), Desmond Howard (4th pick), Tim Brown (6th pick).

If you look at the value of a non-QB/RB Heisman Trophy Winner, Hunter's value in particular tracks historically, not just in this draft.
Champ Bailey was a Heisman Trophy Finalist and was the 7th pick (I think this is his best comp, sorry if we don't agree here...both were two play players...Hunter was a better WR prospect, Bailey the better CB, both were big time athletes at similar size.

Hunter's metrics at CB as both a man cover corner and zone corner are very good. Perhaps not elite in any one single metric, but I'd wager there isn't a corner in the class that can play in multiple coverages like he can in this class and I'd wager those metrics transcend to other classes as well.

When it comes to physical makeup...Hunter has as elite a gas tank in football as I've ever seen. Olympian level gas in the tank for football. Also, seemingly one of those football savants. Just lives and breaths it. I think he's got great ball skills...of course because he's also a WR...I think you'd be hard pressed to say either of the two mentioned have better ball skills than Hunter at this stage of their development.

The only real weakness I see as a corner, was he was a susceptible to getting roasted and toasted in the deep zones. The Stanford WR is going to get drafted highly simply because he toasted Hunter up on deep balls in zone coverage (this is why I'll throw out a Jalen Ramsey comp, Ramsey has a long history of getting lazy and getting dusted up on deep balls despite being considered elite). He's also coached by Prime and he's not the most physical corner you'll see, but he's far more physical than Prime.

Here is a quick twitter video cut up of his improvements in man coverage as a junior.



Here is a link to another scouting report with a bunch of embedded tweets that show the diversity of skills.


Big time corner prospect, whose only real deficiencies are a result of playing an astronomical amount of plays. Pure CB in the NFL, but you're getting something extra special at WR when he plays there, too. He will have to earn those reps, but he's CB1 by quite a bit in this class, IMO. A+ development potential and a guy you expect to be a Hall of Fame candidate by the end of his career.
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And this is on top of him being probably the real WR1 in this draft. See metrics analysis below.

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I just think this dude is a unique player. You look at Champ Bailey and see the high end comp, but thats not a comp I'd throw around all willy nilly either. Travis Hunter is just a special prospect. Truly a "generational prospect"...Champ Bailey was a quarter of a century ago. We're getting old, brother.

Also, I like players that move up in competition and keep dominating. Cam Ward, Shedeur, and Travis Hunter all have this unique journey that I think benefits them big in the NFL...they won't be shocked by the increase in speed and complexity of the game. They've taken that jump before (in Cam's situation - 3 times).
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No argument at all in him as a corner prospect which is why he'd always go high. Because at the end of the day he can be a elite shut down corner at the next level. Him as a wr I'm not gonna bother to go into. As much as he got toasted in various coverages I'd say the reason behind it is exactly that he wasn't mastering either position. He was playing against inferior competition and thriving simply off of his athleticism. That doesn't work anywhere near as easily against a league full of dudes who have mastered or are mastering their craft. I wouldn't bet against him as a cb. But I really think people gotta tamper their expectations and also realize the level of competition he was going up against. Either way it goes not much more time till we see exactly what he's gonna be
 
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Brooklyndee said:
Slight wager he's not featured wherever they draft him at both positions? Like not even 35% of the teams offensive snaps in his rookie season... Not trying to knock the kid but people are setting unrealistic expectations for him if they think what he did in college will be done at the NFL level. The big 12 or whatever Colorado plays in is a drastic difference from AFC, NFC... Justsayin
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I’m certain he won’t play both ways at the next level all game long.
 
Calicane02 said:
Caglione, pitching severely fell off his last year though
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Not really my brotha;

He pitched around the same amount of innings, had a better win %, higher strike out rate in 2024 v. 2023 w/ his ERA being .40 higher. He was the same guy practically w/o hitting as many batters, but offensively he became other worldly.
 
Rellyrell said:
Not really my brotha;

He pitched around the same amount of innings, had a better win %, higher strike out rate in 2024 v. 2023 w/ his ERA being .40 higher. He was the same guy practically w/o hitting as many batters, but offensively he became other worldly.
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I'm a velocity ***** admittedly, last game I saw he was sitting at 88-91 and was throwing gas year prior
 
Rellyrell said:
I’m certain he won’t play both ways at the next level all game long.
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Ok. Cause brother I've always seen you as realistic with all this stuff. End of the day in the NFL **** get snaps on offensive side of the ball lil more than situationally(cause don't wanna make it a wildcat type situation where they know exactly what he's gonna do when he hits the field.)and he'll be eventually a cb1 (2 or nickel from jump) depending on the squad. To me that's a grand slam pick to get those results. Key is who takes him.
 
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CANESCANES said:
Ohtani is a freak athlete

Stole 59 bases last year
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You get a guy 6,4 the weighs 210 and run a 6:35 60 yard dash that’s flying and is tough u could find a spot for that guy on a football field,but to find a guy who throws over 100 mph is a star pitcher,hits over 50 Hr steals over 50 bases hits over 300 batting average in the best baseball in the world that’s crazy ohtany is a freak of nature from another planet there’s no comparison
 
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Coach Macho said:
Neither one of them can do what the other one does...however here's the difference...

One guy lacks the "skill" to perform the other one's job...that's it.
The other guy lacks the skill, athleticism, toughness, genetics, speed, etc etc etc.

If they traded places for a day, one of them would simply get embarrassed. The other one would get embarrassed, folded up like a lawn chair and end-up on the trainer's table within 10 minutes.

I respect baseball and it's my first love...but I played in games where I didn't even break a sweat.
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I agree with u that baseball sometimes you don’t break a sweat and football is way more physical sport but you could be strong ,fast ,athletic and still can’t hit a baseball is the hardest thing to do in any sport look at Jordan one of the greatest athletes ever couldn’t hit for shet and he grew up playing baseball
 
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