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[No_Fly_Zone]

It’s a catch 22. I’ve been saying it.
How can possibly ask the boosters to pay top notch money (probably 200% higher already than previous staffs) when they gave an elite recruiter 80Ms.

In their mind I know they’re sitting there like “wait I allocated more funds in last 16 months than ever before, and you’re asking me for more to land an elite class? Why did we hire Mario then?”

Honestly, they have a leg to stand on.

I'm in a Catch-22.

On the one hand, I don't believe an adult has any business telling another adult how to spend their disposable income. On the other hand, I am not a man who believes in half measures (and paying top dollar for a top flight HC, but not spending top dollar on NIL or elsewhere is a half measure).

 

[AboutTheU05]

I'm in a Catch-22.

On the one hand, I don't believe an adult has any business telling another adult how to spend their disposable income. On the other hand, I am not a man who believes in half measures (and paying top dollar for a top flight HC, but not spending top dollar on NIL or elsewhere is a half measure).

Agreed……top flight HC (especially when it was understood his strength was program building), top flight facilities, going on and on about a new stadium, but draw the line with budgeting at the roster. Yes neither you, nor I, not anyone else needs to tell another adult what to do with their income but how does that situation even make sense??

 

[MumbleRap]

No it's not. If we say we're committed to spending $10M/yr on NIL then we do that, if other teams are committed to spending $12M/yr, that doesn't mean we have backed off our commitment. It means we haven't kept pace.

You’re too focused on the dollar amount. If we’re deciding to cap the amount needed in an uncapped market then we’re not committed.

There’s so many variables each year (class size, position needs, on-field success). You’re either all in or you’re not.

Hypothetically speaking, if the 2025 class has 14 five stars in south Florida, you want Mario to just watch 11 go elsewhere? “Sorry Rio you can only pick three”.
No you want the donors to triple the budget that year, because that’s what’s needed

 

[Calinative]

I'm in a Catch-22.

On the one hand, I don't believe an adult has any business telling another adult how to spend their disposable income. On the other hand, I am not a man who believes in half measures (and paying top dollar for a top flight HC, but not spending top dollar on NIL or elsewhere is a half measure).

...But we literally aren't spending top dollar on a HC lol. Cristobal is like 10th highest paid HC. Most years we will likely finish top 6-10 in recruiting with him...

Relative to what we are spending on our HC as you point out, our NIL is right in line. Heres the thing though, ON AVERAGE we are likely a top 10 NIL payout program. But what that really means is all those teams that are in that 11-16+ range can be less intelligent with their spending and go all in on like one elite guy. So it's not that we can't average spend more than them, But can we get 3 elite DTs over them going all out for 1, and then another program going all out for one, and then the programs that are genuinely outspending us like the Texas' of the world also going for those top guys...

People just have to be more reasonable. If we get 2 Five start DLineman, that's not a ******* failure.

 

[Calinative]

You’re too focused on the dollar amount. If we’re deciding to cap the amount needed in an uncapped market then we’re not committed.

There’s so many variables each year (class size, position needs, on-field success). You’re either all in or you’re not.

Hypothetically speaking, if the 2025 class has 14 five stars in south Florida, you want Mario to just watch 11 go elsewhere? “Sorry Rio you can only pick three”.
No you want the donors to triple the budget that year, because that’s what’s needed

Okay, well here in reality that isn't possible for us... That doesn't mean we aren't committed to success.

 

[hoops156]

If Ahfua and Cole updates weren't enough, 247 Miami site had some poster saying that some FSU writers were getting close to putting in a flip for Artavius.

Sadly the way things are going, this wouldn't surprise me (although I think he sticks...for now). FSU must have cracked the code and found out landing big-time players by actually spending money (on top of their winning season) would generate momentum...genius. Not sure Miami hasn't thought of that this cycle.

Class would be in the 20's if that were to happen, by the way.

jones has already said that he likes FSU. that one was always going to be a battle to keep. hopefully we keep him committed bc losing him along w how the rest of the DL class is going is bad. need to beat down ATM and start 5-0

 

[AboutTheU05]

...But we literally aren't spending top dollar on a HC lol. Cristobal is like 10th highest paid HC. Most years we will likely finish top 6-10 in recruiting with him...

If that last sentence comes to fruition and roster needs are met that’s more than enough to work with. We’ll see

 

[MumbleRap]

Okay, well here in reality that isn't possible for us... That doesn't mean we aren't committed to success.

How can you sit here and say it’s not a reality?
Miami made Rad the highest paid AD in America. Miami made Mario a top 10 highest paid coach in America. Announced a new facility that will be top 5 in America (in dollar amount).

You think the schools pockets would be hurting to throw an extra 10-20Ms towards the roster a year? That’s a drop in the bucket… they’re just not committed to being the best. Same **** we’ve dealt with for last two decades.

Edit: Last sentence was a little harsh. They’re MORE committed now than last two decades. Just not to the elite standard we want as fans.

 

[Calinative]

How can you sit here and say it’s not a reality?
Miami made Rad the highest paid AD in America. Miami made Mario a top 10 highest paid coach in America. Announced a new facility that will be top 5 in America (in dollar amount).

You think the schools pockets would be hurting to throw an extra 10-20Ms towards the roster a year? That’s a drop in the bucket… they’re just not committed to being the best. Same **** we’ve dealt with for last two decades.

What a dumbass response. So if we don't spend #1 in the country we're not committed? Not spending #1, doesn't mean we are out of the running for a National Championship lol.

It's not even close to the same as we've dealt with the last 2 decades.

The way you're talking is either we spend more than anyone or we are trash and uncommitted. Theres plenty of ******* grey between those two points.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

Or... not overpay now, win on the field this year, and not have to overpay in the future either....

If you’re naïve enough to believe one year of going 8-4 or 9-3 is enough to sell every recruit “WE’RE BACK BABY!”, then god help you.

 

[MumbleRap]

What a dumbass response. So if we don't spend #1 in the country we're not committed? Not spending #1, doesn't mean we are out of the running for a National Championship lol.

It's not even close to the same as we've dealt with the last 2 decades.

The way you're talking is either we spend more than anyone or we are trash and uncommitted. Theres plenty of ******* grey between those two points.

Yeah I agree, the last part was dumb. I edited original post. Far more dedicated than past two decades. You don’t have to spend #1, I never said that. You just need to do what’s needed yearly. **** a cap in a fluctuating market. That’s never going to be good enough.

You saying it’s not a reality to spend top notch money is false though. It’s 100% possible.

 

[Calinative]

If you’re naïve enough to believe one year of going 8-4 or 9-3 is enough to sell every recruit “WE’RE BACK BABY!”, then god help you.

Every recruit? no.

Okay how about this, lay out what you think are resonable expectations regarding recruiting for us.
Tell me if you were satisfied with last years OLine class. Tell me what you think will happen when we make a big play for a top QB, and what you think how that SHOULD reasonably affect the rest of that recruiting class regarding how much we spend on NIL.

If you're expectation is a top 5 class EVERY year, then yeah, we're just not seeing **** the same whatsoever. Also lay out what you think a good LONG-TERM focused strategy is on turning this program around into a perennial title contender is. What are our W/L goals, and recruiting goals?

This isn't about one year of 8-4/9-3 lol. Like come on.

 

[Calinative]

Yeah I agree, the last part was dumb. I edited original post. Far more dedicated than past two decades. You don’t have to spend #1, I never said that. You just need to do what’s needed yearly. **** a cap in a fluctuating market. That’s never going to be good enough.

You saying it’s not a reality to spend top notch money is false though. It’s 100% possible.

Apparently it isn't possible or even close to Likely for us to consistently spend TOP money. Again by top yall CLEARLY aren't talking about just top 10 money, you're talking top 5 money. And maybe AFTER we start winning, it could make that more possible.

 

[MumbleRap]

Apparently it isn't possible or even close to Likely for us to consistently spend TOP money. Again by top yall CLEARLY aren't talking about just top 10 money, you're talking top 5 money. And maybe AFTER we start winning, it could make that more possible.

It’s possible for 90% of Universities in America, these schools have so much **** money.

Miami reported a 4.7B budget in 2022. You can’t possibly believe they don’t have an extra 10-20Ms yearly if that’s what’s needed.

That’s not even me saying it will be needed every year, but some years it will be. Sometimes it won’t. Committed to spending what’s necessary.

 

[TRick72]

Or... not overpay now, win on the field this year, and not have to overpay in the future either....

So how many wins do you think we need to have this year to get recruits to completely forget last year (and the previous 20) to treat us like UGA, Bama, OSU or Clemson and come here for fair market value? What’s your prediction for wins this season??

 

[TRick72]

Shouldn’t it be understood though (given that this program has been a dumpster fire for two decades but also understanding what it can be when right) that this needed to be a longer term investment (4-5 year window)? I don’t excuse Mario for last year but to suggest a swift change in investment off one year misses the point of the plan to begin with.

If you’re pausing already, you shouldn’t have invested to begin with because scared money won’t sustain high level results in the future. Same can be said if they’re arrogant enough to believe they set the market (which has obviously changed).

I agree that Mario needs to win now…..get the same results this year or limited improvement by year 3 with plenty of time and resources……it’s a different discussion. UNTIL THEN, it’s not fiscally irresponsible if the task at hand was clearly understood.

It’s like building a house and stopping after you put the exterior walls up because the price of lumber has gone up

 

[hoops156]

So how many wins do you think we need to have this year to get recruits to completely forget last year (and the previous 20) to treat us like UGA, Bama, OSU or Clemson and come here for fair market value? What’s your prediction for wins this season??

to be those schools? you'll need consistent 10 wins PLUS consecutive drafts over years sending kids into the first two rounds. kids want to win and get to the league. we haven't done either. those four schools do both consistently

 

[Gi0logy]

It’s a catch 22. I’ve been saying it.
How can possibly ask the boosters to pay top notch money (probably 200% higher already than previous staffs) when they gave an elite recruiter 80Ms.

In their mind I know they’re sitting there like “wait I allocated more funds in last 16 months than ever before, and you’re asking me for more to land an elite class? Why did we hire Mario then?”

Honestly, they have a leg to stand on.

The other piece of this is us paying him $80M and giving him a massive budget to hire an elite staff.

Only to have them go 5-7 while getting beat by MTSU and seeing a heisman caliber QB look like absolute garbage.

This season is so massive for this program in so many different ways. From conference realignment to falling further behind in recruiting to losing all semblance of financial commitment from the donors.

Mario cannot **** this season up.

 

[HurricanesR1]

I thought D$ said the good thing about Stewart going to SC was that it cleared up bag dollars. Seems like we should have money to spend.

 

[Calinative]

It’s possible for 90% of Universities in America, these schools have so much **** money.

Miami reported a 4.7B budget in 2022. You can’t possibly believe they don’t have an extra 10-20Ms yearly if that’s what’s needed.

That’s not even me saying it will be needed every year, but some years it will be. Sometimes it won’t. Committed to spending what’s necessary.

It's against NCAA rules for Schools to spend money on NIL. What you want is for Congress/Courts to make Student Athletes employees.