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2020 Freshman 15: November Edition

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canefrank said:
We should have a kicker in our top 3, I understand we got a top K for the 2021 cycle, but my old ticker cannot handle another year where kicking beyond the 15 yard line is an impossibility!
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Diaz already said they'll look over bringing in another Kicker in the Spring.

We don't have any open spots for this class to waste a scholly on a Kicker, much easier to find a Grad Tranfer kid or Walk-on during & after Spring once you have a few roster moves that will take place up until Fall of next year.
 
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nvlahos said:
Like this class a lot.. BUT I have a few major issues with how this staffed didn’t recruit/prioritize certain guys ie.

- throwing the kitchen sink at Jaylen Knighton when he CLEARLY has no interest in us and not pursing Parrish more instead

- missing on multiple SoFla OL (Dumervil, Walker, Mincy) and not prioritizing Martinez or a guy like Kristopher Love

- doing the same thing with Flowe as we’re doing with Knighton. Theres a perfectly good “Plan B” in Hyppolitte that we’re stupidly slow playing

- CB recruiting again somewhat suspect. Why not take a guy like Delancy
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Bro I still don’t get what you guys don’t understand about our running back recruiting. The staff only really wants 1 guy in Chaney. They don’t NEED 2 backs. They’ll take Knighton because he’s just THAT good and local. They won’t reach for a second back and are happy with just 1. It’s really more simple than what y’all make it out to be. We only have about 3 spots left in the class unless we drop people.
 
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Cuban-Cane said:
Bro I still don’t get what you guys don’t understand about our running back recruiting. The staff only really wants 1 guy in Chaney. They don’t NEED 2 backs. They’ll take Knighton because he’s just THAT good and local. They won’t reach for a second back and are happy with just 1. It’s really more simple than what y’all make it out to be. We only have about 3 spots left in the class unless we drop people.
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We're about to push out riggins and smith - that's 2 more spots. Also, if lingard decides to transfer, then we only have 3 rb (with burns being unproven and injury prone). Even if lingard stays, having 5 rbs isn't a lot at all.
 
brock said:
Dj ivey May have started slow on the season (i was a big critic of him too) but he’s been coming on strong these last 3 weeks or so. And you got to tip your cap for his improvement. I dont Get that comment to say “he shouldn’t be a starter”. These guys are in juco for a reason, he could be another jhavontae dean which is obviously always possible, never know.
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tape doesn't look like Jhavonted Dean AT ALL. And I do give Ivey a little credit for improvement. I didn't see this weeks interception as but the pitt 2 were balls that hit him in the face including a tip.

I'm saying he shouldn't be a starter because he's not really any good, and shouldn't start in a miami quality secondary, hopefully his improvement continues. Thought he was the clear #5 Db in that class and for most of the season he has proved my opinion correct, has not been anywhere been good at all.

This should be a place you got your **** spot taken if you are mediocre...plain and simple. By judos, by whoever.
 
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Liberty City El said:
Diaz already said they'll look over bringing in another Kicker in the Spring.

We don't have any open spots for this class to waste a scholly on a Kicker, much easier to find a Grad Tranfer kid or Walk-on during & after Spring once you have a few roster moves that will take place up until Fall of next year.
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I think between the portal and the Price kid...One of those will be on scholly...Baxa may or may not be here, but if he is here 20 is probably his last year. Maybe he stays for kickoffs since we will be below the 85. Then the chaminade kid in for '21
 
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Cuban-Cane said:
Wtf are you guys complaining about. We have the bulk of our class committed already (22 guys) these are just the finishing touches.
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Two OL recruits and average recruits at LB. It’s not just about “finishing touches” it’s the class in full. For a first year recruiting season for Manny you always expect that boost you get, well he didn’t and you have to question the whys to that which comes down to the staff.
 
Cuban-Cane said:
Bro I still don’t get what you guys don’t understand about our running back recruiting. The staff only really wants 1 guy in Chaney. They don’t NEED 2 backs. They’ll take Knighton because he’s just THAT good and local. They won’t reach for a second back and are happy with just 1. It’s really more simple than what y’all make it out to be. We only have about 3 spots left in the class unless we drop people.
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"Bro" I don't get why you know what the staff wants more than everyone on the board? And even if you are right, and let's face it you are only in agreement because Ivins says things (and ivins changes his stance and what he "hears", which is funny at times, although yes he does work hard) no one is allowed to voice an opinion that an in experienced staff is making a mistake.

No one here is making out to be complicated at all...You don't have to be defender of all things Ivins and staff all the time. You know how to read an Ivins report and regurgitate it with the best of 'em...We get it man, we really do bro
 
mossmadness said:
This staff continues to suck at recruiting.
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They may suck at recruiting highly rated kids but I like their evaluations. Almost all the 3 stars we have really look good. Williams Mathis Height Cave Branch Restrepo n Clark all appear to be really good players. Balom and Washington are really intriguing too.
 
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man Diaz better figure out recruitng fast, and make some staff changes this winter.

our OL recruiting is as bad as our OL play has been - no excuse for that.

the flowe, knighton plays overlooking hyppolite, parrosh are predictable and dumb, imo.

i dont know when we will be back, but it will not be before the time our staff knows more about our recruits than some fans do.
 
AllbouttheU said:
Two OL recruits and average recruits at LB. It’s not just about “finishing touches” it’s the class in full. For a first year recruiting season for Manny you always expect that boost you get, well he didn’t and you have to question the whys to that which comes down to the staff.
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Average to you because you’re a star *****. Each of the 3 linebackers we took are 100+ tackles a year type of players. Flagg is a machine. Mathis is raw but still productive and TAC is a beast. We got 2 very solid tackle prospects. We’ll probably end up with 1-2 more interior guys. There’s still 3 months left.
 
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skeeter said:
"Bro" I don't get why you know what the staff wants more than everyone on the board? And even if you are right, and let's face it you are only in agreement because Ivins says things (and ivins changes his stance and what he "hears", which is funny at times, although yes he does work hard) no one is allowed to voice an opinion that an in experienced staff is making a mistake.

No one here is making out to be complicated at all...You don't have to be defender of all things Ivins and staff all the time. You know how to read an Ivins report and regurgitate it with the best of 'em...We get it man, we really do bro
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Lol that’s literally all you say guy. You don’t have to read anyone’s report to see what the staff is going. If they wanted a second running back they would have pushed for another running back. Obviously they are targeting the talent with knighton and not the position. Ivins doesn’t have to say it for anyone with a pulse to get it.
 
brock said:
I’m out on Trying to take juco dbs, it ruins roster balance at cb eventually just like it did when we had low numbers when Colbert, Delaney and dean left. We will be good with cbs we bring back this year plus Christian Williams and couch stepping up more and whoever else we bring in at cb. Would rather scour the transfer portal and try to land a talented db like we did when we got bubba bolden. There assuredly will be some transfer portal activity from some dbs around college football over the next month or so.
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Nothing wrong with jucos. We’ve done great with them over the years. Kennedy, Shockey, McKinnie. McDougle....

the question, AS ALWAYS, is can we evaluate well.

roster balane is an excuse.
 
ajkreider said:
So, we have 22 recruits already - we can at MOST take, what, 3-5 of these? Did people think we're going to have a class of 35?
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That’s what I don’t get with our fans. They want anyone and everyone when they don’t get there’s only 25 initial counters since we took a full class almost last year with the transfers.
 
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