2018 LB Xavier Peters

[supersaiyanshel]

Perplexing.

Whether it's Peters or someone else, we need another LB if not 2 this cycle.

No room!!!

Richt said our max take is 27. That is 8 more.

1-Nesta
2-Chatfeild
3-Campbell
4-Ezzard
5-Briggs
6- another OL
7-another DT

8-Surtain (please) or DE (please) or DT

Which two of the above do you give up for another two LB's? We need all of those and more.

Even if we are below the 85 limit we can only take 25 + any EE spots we can apply to last year.

It's too late right now for us to take two quality LB's, but you absolutely sacrifice Ezzard if you have to for Peters (and I LOVE Ezzard's game btw).

 

[Peter Ariz]

Gotta be loading up on DBs and ignoring LBs because we're moving a Safety or two (Finley/Smith) to LB.

That's the only plausible explanation. Otherwise, this is really head scratching.

At every position outside of QB, RB and TE, I strongly disagree with recruiting one person at an individual position. At DT, you should have 2 minimum at a position, same with LB.

I wonder if this is a Richt call or Manny. If the latter, I'm starting to jump on the bandwagon of him finding a lower level HC position.

Other sites are saying that Manny is in contact with Peters so who knows

You guys gotta do a better job with reading comprehension. I said in my post that they have had contact. I'm just saying don't get your hopes up right now

 

[orange&green84]

Boys...don’t forget that SFL is LOADED at LB next just like it is on the DL/OL. Do you really want to take a risk on a kid who might not even get in because of his grade when Anthony Solomon, Gemon Eaford, Jamar Brown, and Sam Brooks are all obtainable next year?

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with this approach. Recruit year-by-year, don't look ahead cycles down the road. Not saying you overload the position, but get quality depth.

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Yep. Realistic scenario right now after the 2018 season if Pinkney and Shaq have great years and they both leave (I think McCloud needs another year regardless of how he does next year given inconsistencies). You're looking at a core of the following not counting freshman for 2019:

McCloud
Jennings
Wilder
Steed
Joyner

That's not counting true freshman that would come in. I'm fully aware that the 2019 cycle is loaded with LBs and Miami would likely land at least 2 blue chippers given the potential PT available and the defense that we play and direction the program's heading.

But that's lacking depth.

 

[Zbrod95]

Boys...don’t forget that SFL is LOADED at LB next just like it is on the DL/OL. Do you really want to take a risk on a kid who might not even get in because of his grade when Anthony Solomon, Gemon Eaford, Jamar Brown, and Sam Brooks are all obtainable next year?

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with this approach. Recruit year-by-year, don't look ahead cycles down the road. Not saying you overload the position, but get quality depth.

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Or they’re high on Jennings, Wilder, and Steed...Wilder did play during the season and Jennings played vs. Wisky and looked good as a run stopper.

 

[orange&green84]

Boys...don’t forget that SFL is LOADED at LB next just like it is on the DL/OL. Do you really want to take a risk on a kid who might not even get in because of his grade when Anthony Solomon, Gemon Eaford, Jamar Brown, and Sam Brooks are all obtainable next year?

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with this approach. Recruit year-by-year, don't look ahead cycles down the road. Not saying you overload the position, but get quality depth.

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Or they’re high on Jennings, Wilder, and Steed...Wilder did play during the season and Jennings played vs. Wisky and looked good as a run stopper.

This isn't a question on quality of depth. That's great if they think all 3 would be good players. That's not what I'm arguing.

You can't just trot out 5 LBs for the season plus whatever freshman you have. Not if you want to be considered an elite program.

 

[Rellyrell]

Literally dumbfounded by this mentality.

 

[Rellyrell]

Boys...don’t forget that SFL is LOADED at LB next just like it is on the DL/OL. Do you really want to take a risk on a kid who might not even get in because of his grade when Anthony Solomon, Gemon Eaford, Jamar Brown, and Sam Brooks are all obtainable next year?

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with this approach. Recruit year-by-year, don't look ahead cycles down the road. Not saying you overload the position, but get quality depth.

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Or they’re high on Jennings, Wilder, and Steed...Wilder did play during the season and Jennings played vs. Wisky and looked good as a run stopper.

This isn't a question on quality of depth. That's great if they think all 3 would be good players. That's not what I'm arguing.

You can't just trot out 5 LBs for the season plus whatever freshman you have. Not if you want to be considered an elite program.

Crown this post!

 

[Captain Uberpants]

I bet Pinckney takes a hard look at going pro next year. Seems to be the trend around here.


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[Zbrod95]

Boys...don’t forget that SFL is LOADED at LB next just like it is on the DL/OL. Do you really want to take a risk on a kid who might not even get in because of his grade when Anthony Solomon, Gemon Eaford, Jamar Brown, and Sam Brooks are all obtainable next year?

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with this approach. Recruit year-by-year, don't look ahead cycles down the road. Not saying you overload the position, but get quality depth.

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Or they’re high on Jennings, Wilder, and Steed...Wilder did play during the season and Jennings played vs. Wisky and looked good as a run stopper.

This isn't a question on quality of depth. That's great if they think all 3 would be good players. That's not what I'm arguing.

You can't just trot out 5 LBs for the season plus whatever freshman you have. Not if you want to be considered an elite program.

If you’re switching to 4-2-5 then you only need six...every trend keeps pointing to that.

 

[BeastMode]

Boys...don’t forget that SFL is LOADED at LB next just like it is on the DL/OL. Do you really want to take a risk on a kid who might not even get in because of his grade when Anthony Solomon, Gemon Eaford, Jamar Brown, and Sam Brooks are all obtainable next year?

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with this approach. Recruit year-by-year, don't look ahead cycles down the road. Not saying you overload the position, but get quality depth.

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Yep. Realistic scenario right now after the 2018 season if Pinkney and Shaq have great years and they both leave (I think McCloud needs another year regardless of how he does next year given inconsistencies). You're looking at a core of the following not counting freshman for 2019:

McCloud
Jennings
Wilder
Steed
Joyner

That's not counting true freshman that would come in. I'm fully aware that the 2019 cycle is loaded with LBs and Miami would likely land at least 2 blue chippers given the potential PT available and the defense that we play and direction the program's heading.

But that's lacking depth.

Shaq and Pinck haven’t proven enough to leave. As we saw this year with Norton and RJ, anything can happen though. I see both guys as 4 year players honestly.

 

[nvlahos]

Going to a 4-2-5 and playing some of the Safeties as hybrid LBs is the only thing that makes sense

We did see Carter/Smith etc. in that role this year and i'm sure we'll see more moving forward

 

[canes732]

Elite talent cant have enough of it even if you dont want another LB you take this kid bc he is elite

 

[Calinative]

Charles Perry and Mike Smith are not going to be going anywhere since they are Seniors in the LB rotation, unless of course its their decision to leave (like Owens). But Terry McCray absolutely should be shown the door.

I do think we need one more LB in this class. The 2019 class is loaded, and that is clearly the reason we've only been targeting 1 LB in this 2018 class. But still, even if we get 3 or 4 LBs in 2019, we still could use 2 in 2018.

Just looking at the Eligibility chart, even if all our starters stay for their senior year (unlikely), we would have 11-12 LBs on the roster (depending if we took 3 or 4 in 2019), which isn't crazy. Ideally we'd have about 9-10 LBs on the roster, so it is more than we'd like, but still not crazy. Then the next year when the big 3 graduate, we take another 2 LBs in the 2020 class, and we are right where we want to be with 10 LBs on the roster.

 

[gogeta4]

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with this approach. Recruit year-by-year, don't look ahead cycles down the road. Not saying you overload the position, but get quality depth.

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Or they’re high on Jennings, Wilder, and Steed...Wilder did play during the season and Jennings played vs. Wisky and looked good as a run stopper.

This isn't a question on quality of depth. That's great if they think all 3 would be good players. That's not what I'm arguing.

You can't just trot out 5 LBs for the season plus whatever freshman you have. Not if you want to be considered an elite program.

If you’re switching to 4-2-5 then you only need six...every trend keeps pointing to that.

except them constantly trotting 3 lbs out there when teams brought 4 or 5 wr's all year.

They need 2 lbs in this class regardless of who they like, regardless of who they are bringing down from safety. Already had attrition in Owens a guy they were trying to keep...so what if osmeone goes down in the spring..or sometime off season, grades casualties, arrest, whatever. That winging it sh*t aint cool and all it will do is keep an unbalanced roser and the youth excuse like golden had.

We got people on here looking to 2020 to when we will be where we want to be at Lb. 2020?. Richt or Diaz could be outta here by then

 

[Zbrod95]

That's how you end up with your ***** in your hand and no depth after guys leave early or graduate.

Or they’re high on Jennings, Wilder, and Steed...Wilder did play during the season and Jennings played vs. Wisky and looked good as a run stopper.

This isn't a question on quality of depth. That's great if they think all 3 would be good players. That's not what I'm arguing.

You can't just trot out 5 LBs for the season plus whatever freshman you have. Not if you want to be considered an elite program.

If you’re switching to 4-2-5 then you only need six...every trend keeps pointing to that.

except them constantly trotting 3 lbs out there when teams brought 4 or 5 wr's all year.

They need 2 lbs in this class regardless of who they like, regardless of who they are bringing down from safety. Already had attrition in Owens a guy they were trying to keep...so what if osmeone goes down in the spring..or sometime off season, grades casualties, arrest, whatever. That winging it sh*t aint cool and all it will do is keep an unbalanced roser and the youth excuse like golden had.

We got people on here looking to 2020 to when we will be where we want to be at Lb. 2020?. Richt or Diaz could be outta here by then

What do you want them to trot out if we don’t have reliable DB depth? Robert Knowles? It’s not like they could just throw Amari Carter/Derrick smith out there and winged it.

 

[Sigma_Cane_7]

Going to a 4-2-5 and playing some of the Safeties as hybrid LBs is the only thing that makes sense

We did see Carter/Smith etc. in that role this year and i'm sure we'll see more moving forward

I don’t like the idea of permanently going to this defense. Though I love the flexibility it allows, it’s not what a successful UM was built on and it becomes a challenge on finding DCs since it’s not a staple defense. Let’s face it, Miami will probably always be a breeding ground for great coaches and turnover will be common so our personnel should be plug and play so another coach can come in and continue dominating.


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[252cane]

Its based on numbers. Regardless how you feel about a player on the roster every coach has a certain number of guys for each position. There will be 9 scholarship LBs on the roster next year.

I realize we don't want 20 linebackers on the roster active. But in order to avoid reactive recruiting and relying on true freshmans, they still need to take another guy. Of those 9, we lose at least three next year (McCray, Smith, Perry) if not sooner, and possibly as many as three more if they go pro after a great year (Shaq, McCloud, Pinck). Is it unlikely we lose all three juniors? Yes, it is unlikely. Did people say the same thing last year about DT when we were discussing why we didn't sign more than one? Yes they did.

Smith and perry are seniors. So even if shaq and mike leave early that puts you at 5. They are probably looking to bring in 3-4 LBs next class which will put you right back to 8 or 9.

 

[AUcane]

Why does everyone insist we are going to a 4-2-5? You saw this past season that when things got tight, Diaz loved sticking to his base defense.

 

[M3N]

Why does everyone insist we are going to a 4-2-5? You saw this past season that when things got tight, Diaz loved sticking to his base defense.

We’re not going 425.

 

[gogeta4]

Why does everyone insist we are going to a 4-2-5? You saw this past season that when things got tight, Diaz loved sticking to his base defense.

thats the part i was getting at. All **** year they trotted zombie mccloud over the slot...like they were waiting a full recruiting class to figure out they could go nickel....yea next year we''ll be a 4-2...highly doubt it.
Just like they dont/didnt think it was possible to lose 2 dts..they are banking all 3 soph lbs would be here 4 years. Only reason i got