2018 5-star Xavier Williams commits to Alabama

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Terrance Marshall or Kevin Austin for the 4th spot.
If Thornton, Moore, or Shwartz have an amazing senior year, maybe give the 4th spot to them....otherwise just take 3 this year. Right now, I'd lean towards just taking the 3 we have committed if Marshall or Austin don't choose us. But with big seasons, things can change.

It's not like we need to take 4 WR's this year. If we take 3 this yr and 2-3 next year, we'll be in a very good place at WR.
 

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Dudes probably already driving around in a confederate style souped up roll tide mustang yelling woogie boogie
 
Let's see how many more pages we can add talking about an *** who ain't coming...this thread should have been clipped 20 pages ago..
 
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He can drive that M series during the confederate Memorial Day parade.
Only 2 states celebrate it.
https://youtu.be/Z3Leitn0hYs

And what the **** is wrong with recalling Confederate veterans? Who fought for their states?

Simple minded schitts try to make something historical into something dirty - regardless where it is recognized.



They QUIT the United States. They then fought AGAINST the United States. It's called treason.

Most Confederate states CITED the issue of slavery as their reason for seceding, and even the ones who didn't cite slavery in their secession statements still quit to defend slavery.

And you try to whitewash centuries of slavery and the greatest act of treason in US history by calling it "fought for their states" and "something historical".

How about you try to defend "Confederate memorials" in places like Arizona, which wasn't even a state in the 1860s and had precisely zero-point-zero Arizonans who fought in the Civil War.

Let's see...Benedict Arnold was considered a traitor. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were traitors. John Walker, Jr. was a traitor. And every Confederate soldier and officer was a traitor.

Stop lying. They didn't fight "for their states". They formed a separate country, they fought for the Confederacy. AND THEY LOST. Who builds monuments to the losers? Are you going to go to Germany and tell us about all the cool memorials to *****?
 
Couldn't have said it any better. Don't understand parents that allow their sons to attend those schools when they are better alternatives. If you cost Bama the game by dropping the game-winning touchdown pass, you will really understand what they feel about you. I remember in 03 I think when I was at UF and Chris Leak had a terrible game at Auburn and I was legitimately concerned for his safety.
 
He can drive that M series during the confederate Memorial Day parade.
Only 2 states celebrate it.
https://youtu.be/Z3Leitn0hYs

And what the **** is wrong with recalling Confederate veterans? Who fought for their states?

Simple minded schitts try to make something historical into something dirty - regardless where it is recognized.

I guess Germans should celebrate a **** memorial day since the **** did fight for their country by killing millions of Americans and their Allies. Oh, a better Idea! Let build Hitler statues all over Germany since he is part of Germany's history..

Feeling stupid yet? Just because it part of history doesn't mean it should be celebrated as if it some kinda of holiday like IND day especially in 2017 knowing what they stood for... You want to celebrate something like this? Fine, but do it in your own **** house.

Like the ****, the Confederates represent the dark and ignorant times in human history. Should be learned (or Else history repeats itself) but should never be celebrated.
 
He can drive that M series during the confederate Memorial Day parade.
Only 2 states celebrate it.
https://youtu.be/Z3Leitn0hYs

And what the **** is wrong with recalling Confederate veterans? Who fought for their states?

Simple minded schitts try to make something historical into something dirty - regardless where it is recognized.



They QUIT the United States. They then fought AGAINST the United States. It's called treason.

Most Confederate states CITED the issue of slavery as their reason for seceding, and even the ones who didn't cite slavery in their secession statements still quit to defend slavery.

And you try to whitewash centuries of slavery and the greatest act of treason in US history by calling it "fought for their states" and "something historical".

How about you try to defend "Confederate memorials" in places like Arizona, which wasn't even a state in the 1860s and had precisely zero-point-zero Arizonans who fought in the Civil War.

Let's see...Benedict Arnold was considered a traitor. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were traitors. John Walker, Jr. was a traitor. And every Confederate soldier and officer was a traitor.

Stop lying. They didn't fight "for their states". They formed a separate country, they fought for the Confederacy. AND THEY LOST. Who builds monuments to the losers? Are you going to go to Germany and tell us about all the cool memorials to *****?


Dumbass, secession is not treason. The States voluntarily joined the Union, and they voluntarily un-joined the Union. In fact, Lincoln had to use mis-terminology to justify invading the Confederacy - he called the "Secession" by another term, "Insurrection."

Insurrection is an attempt to overthrow a government. That didn't happen. The South said, "You keep your schitt, we got ours."

The war was over states rights, you simple-minded revisionist moron.

Yes. The Confederacy lost. And now you have that same Central government the South fought against in your schools dumbing everyone down, in our businesses telling everyone what they can do, can't do, and must do, in your bedroom, forcing you to buy certain insurance that is schitt, emptying your paycheck before you ever get it, and thanks to Federal regulations - every single item you buy costs twice as much as it should.

My gggggrandfather fought in King Philips War - as a Ranger, then as Englishmen, other ancestors fought a civil war against England - one with Francis Marion, another fought at King's Mountain, and cousins Andrew and Robert Jackson, raised by my ggggrandfather did as well. Was that treason too???

Every generation we fought in all of America's wars - I've fought, killed, and bled fighting under the flag - so don't tell me what history is honorable and what history is dishonorable.

But guess what?

This won't continue. Too many folks on one side or another - right now. It's getting bitter again. Intolerable, for some. But the good part is, the North doesn't have all the firearms and manufacturers now. They're one big rust belt.

Next time, it'll be much, much different. Human history says there's going to be a lot of old scores settled once it begins. That's just the way it works.
 
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He can drive that M series during the confederate Memorial Day parade.
Only 2 states celebrate it.
https://youtu.be/Z3Leitn0hYs

And what the **** is wrong with recalling Confederate veterans? Who fought for their states?

Simple minded schitts try to make something historical into something dirty - regardless where it is recognized.

I guess Germans should celebrate a **** memorial day since the **** did fight for their country by killing millions of Americans and their Allies. Oh, a better Idea! Let build Hitler statues all over Germany since he is part of Germany's history..

Feeling stupid yet? Just because it part of history doesn't mean it should be celebrated as if it some kinda of holiday like IND day especially in 2017 knowing what they stood for... You want to celebrate something like this? Fine, but do it in your own **** house.

Like the ****, the Confederates represent the dark and ignorant times in human history. Should be learned (or Else history repeats itself) but should never be celebrated.


Oh, Jesus - another glistening historian. The Germans didn't kill "millions" of Americans.

When you can't get the basics right - avoid any grand schemes - it makes you look like an ***.

Now, how stupid you feeling right now?
 
He can drive that M series during the confederate Memorial Day parade.
Only 2 states celebrate it.
https://youtu.be/Z3Leitn0hYs

And what the **** is wrong with recalling Confederate veterans? Who fought for their states?

Simple minded schitts try to make something historical into something dirty - regardless where it is recognized.



They QUIT the United States. They then fought AGAINST the United States. It's called treason.

Most Confederate states CITED the issue of slavery as their reason for seceding, and even the ones who didn't cite slavery in their secession statements still quit to defend slavery.

And you try to whitewash centuries of slavery and the greatest act of treason in US history by calling it "fought for their states" and "something historical".

How about you try to defend "Confederate memorials" in places like Arizona, which wasn't even a state in the 1860s and had precisely zero-point-zero Arizonans who fought in the Civil War.

Let's see...Benedict Arnold was considered a traitor. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were traitors. John Walker, Jr. was a traitor. And every Confederate soldier and officer was a traitor.

Stop lying. They didn't fight "for their states". They formed a separate country, they fought for the Confederacy. AND THEY LOST. Who builds monuments to the losers? Are you going to go to Germany and tell us about all the cool memorials to *****?


Dumbass, secession is not treason. The States voluntarily joined the Union, and they voluntarily un-joined the Union. In fact, Lincoln had to use mis-terminology to justify invading the Confederacy - he called the "Secession" by another term, "Insurrection."

Insurrection is an attempt to overthrow a government. That didn't happen. The South said, "You keep your schitt, we got ours."

The war was over states rights, you simple-minded revisionist moron.

Yes. The Confederacy lost. And now you have that same Central government the South fought against in your schools dumbing everyone down, in our businesses telling everyone what they can do, can't do, and must do, in your bedroom, forcing you to buy certain insurance that is schitt, emptying your paycheck before you ever get it, and thanks to Federal regulations - every single item you buy costs twice as much as it should.

My gggggrandfather fought in King Philips War - as a Ranger, then as Englishmen, other ancestors fought a civil war against England - one with Francis Marion, another fought at King's Mountain, and cousins Andrew and Robert Jackson, raised by my ggggrandfather did as well. Was that treason too???

Every generation we fought in all of America's wars - I've fought, killed, and bled fighting under the flag - so don't tell me what history is honorable and what history is dishonorable.

But guess what?

This won't continue. Too many folks on one side or another - right now. It's getting bitter again. Intolerable, for some. But the good part is, the North doesn't have all the firearms and manufacturers now. They're one big rust belt.

Next time, it'll be much, much different. Human history says there's going to be a lot of old scores settled once it begins. That's just the way it works.




WAAAAH. Keep lying about history.

There's no such thing as "voluntarily un-joining the Union". Surely all of the self-delusional "states rights" nuts who like to lie about how much they looooove the Constitution would have located the "voluntarily un-joining the Union" clause if it had ever been contemplated or included in the Constitution.

And as for your lie about "you keep your stuff, we keep ours", you completely misstate the record. How about you consult actual history (not your biased and faulty recollection) and figure out what the FIRST ACT OF WAR was. Oh, yeah, that's right...it was a UNITED STATES fort, Fort Sumter, where the US troops were based, that was FIRED UPON by Confederates. Fort Sumter isn't a "South Carolina fort", it was a United States fort. How about a little bit of ACCURATE COMPARISON. How would you characterize things if the Cubans fired on American soldiers in Guantanamo Bay? Would it be a "you keep your stuff, we'll keep ours" act of compassion and pacifism? Or would it be, you know, AN INSURRECTION.

Face it, fake history boy, the first act of war was traitors firing on their own soldiers inside of Fort Sumter. In your words, an insurrection.

Furthermore, I don't give a rat's *** about your ancestors in England (and how shocking is that for a Confederate flag-waver such as yourself). I am only analyzing the fact that certain racist Southern states formed another country and began firing on a US fort, all to defend slavery.

And, sure, you can rattle off that "states rights" nonsense, but that is not WHY the Southern states seceded, IN THEIR OWN WORDS. I know a Confederate flag-waver is going to lie to defend the treason, but the truth is in the statements of the Southern states that seceded, if you would bother to read a historical document (rather than a white-washing Confederate "after-the-fact" rationale).

Oh, and here you go with the veiled threats. "This won't continue". "Too many folks on one side or another". "It's getting bitter again". "Intolerable, for some". Oh, the hilarity. "The North doesn't have all the firearms and manufacturers right now".

Yeah, if you are stupid enough to believe that a Second War of Southern Surrender would last 4 or 5 years and rely on "manufacturing" weapons, then you are another one of those idiots who thinks that AK-47s are going to overthrow the US government.

Look, I will laugh my *** off at Georgia and Alabama and Mississippi and South Carolina seceding again, and this time, instead of firing on poor Fort Sumter, the rednecks can shoot their AK-47s at the aircraft carriers and the rest of the combined military might of the US government.

That is, if you can even rally enough fat-*** rednecks to actually risk their lives. Yeah, it's easy enough to talk tough and act like you would ACTUALLY do something, but the true reality with all of these redneck militias is that they are a bunch of overfed big-talkers who like to go off in the woods and shoot at things that can't shoot back.

"Human history says"...yeah, you don't read much history, and you sure don't learn from it. You're probably one of those big-talkers who likes to complain about the "pussification of America" without considering that most of the complainers are the biggest pusses, because they DO NOTHING to change anything.

This ain't 1860, bud. There won't be a million rednecks reporting for their gray uniforms. Most rednecks these days are so scared of unarmed blacks that they have to move to the suburbs and live in gated communities. God forbid, they'd ever be asked to actually "back up" their big talk by hoisting their camo pants over their fat ****s and lining up against the full power of the US military.
 
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He can drive that M series during the confederate Memorial Day parade.
Only 2 states celebrate it.
https://youtu.be/Z3Leitn0hYs

And what the **** is wrong with recalling Confederate veterans? Who fought for their states?

Simple minded schitts try to make something historical into something dirty - regardless where it is recognized.

I guess Germans should celebrate a **** memorial day since the **** did fight for their country by killing millions of Americans and their Allies. Oh, a better Idea! Let build Hitler statues all over Germany since he is part of Germany's history..

Feeling stupid yet? Just because it part of history doesn't mean it should be celebrated as if it some kinda of holiday like IND day especially in 2017 knowing what they stood for... You want to celebrate something like this? Fine, but do it in your own **** house.

Like the ****, the Confederates represent the dark and ignorant times in human history. Should be learned (or Else history repeats itself) but should never be celebrated.


Oh, Jesus - another glistening historian. The Germans didn't kill "millions" of Americans.

When you can't get the basics right - avoid any grand schemes - it makes you look like an ***.

Now, how stupid you feeling right now?




You have to be kidding, right?

ChosenOne said ""killing millions of Americans and their Allies". You then chastised him for saying millions of Americans were killed.

Will you stop at nothing in order to falsely analyze the arguments of others?

60 million people died in WWII. "Millions of Americans and their Allies" is not a big leap, and is most likely accurate, regardless of whether some of those Allies came later (USSR).

Is it so much to ask you to be accurate? To quote people accurately?
 
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ORI, he's correct in that it was about State's rights.

i just dont think the follow up question:

"A State's right to what?"

will help his argument
 
From the Washington Post (sure, you'll complain that it's the "liberal media")...


"As the nation begins to commemorate the anniversaries of the war’s various battles — from Fort Sumter to Appomattox — let’s first dispense with some of the more prevalent myths about why it all began.

1. The South seceded over states’ rights.

Confederate states did claim the right to secede, but no state claimed to be seceding for that right. In fact, Confederates opposed states’ rights — that is, the right of Northern states not to support slavery.

On Dec. 24, 1860, delegates at South Carolina’s secession convention adopted a “Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.” It noted “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery” and protested that Northern states had failed to “fulfill their constitutional obligations” by interfering with the return of fugitive slaves to bondage. Slavery, not states’ rights, birthed the Civil War.

South Carolina was further upset that New York no longer allowed “slavery transit.” In the past, if Charleston gentry wanted to spend August in the Hamptons, they could bring their cook along. No longer — and South Carolina’s delegates were outraged. In addition, they objected that New England states let black men vote and tolerated abolitionist societies. According to South Carolina, states should not have the right to let their citizens assemble and speak freely when what they said threatened slavery.

Other seceding states echoed South Carolina. “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world,” proclaimed Mississippi in its own secession declaration, passed Jan. 9, 1861. “Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of the commerce of the earth. . . . A blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.”

The South’s opposition to states’ rights is not surprising. Until the Civil War, Southern presidents and lawmakers had dominated the federal government. The people in power in Washington always oppose states’ rights. Doing so preserves their own."
 
ORI, he's correct in that it was about State's rights.

i just dont think the follow up question:

"A State's right to what?"

will help his argument




Yep. The Confederates supported "states rights" to maintain slavery. The Confederates opposed "states rights" to abolish slavery.

Fortunately, the stronger, and more correct, states won.
 
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