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Geo305 said:
Zbrod95 said:
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Top 8 CB's for 2018 in my book
Patrick Surtain Jr.
Derrik Allen
Christian Tutt
Tyson Campbell
Gilbert Frierson
Josh Jobe
Kelvin Joseph
Al Blades Jr

All of these guys have offers btw
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Not including Asante Samuel Jr. is a crime. Every event I've been to, he sticks out like a sore thumb at corner. Don't let his size fool you, he's been the best one at most of these settings regardless of class.

AH best DB prospect is Tyson Campbell, I do like Surtain but I've been firm in the fact that I feel Campbell has a better skill set.

Jobe & Frierson can play corner yes, but Jobe will tell you himself he would rather play safety and hit people and roam the field. The play with a lot of range. Same for Frierson. You maximize their ability at safety, corner if the team needs it. (Aka, Columbus moved Jobe down to corner when Brooks sat the rest of the year)

Remember this name. DJ Ivey, South Dade. I came across him when he came with Frierson for junior day in February. I expect an offer to come at some point. He is the real deal. Doesn't hurt that he's close with Frierson & Jobe, he spent a lot of time with Frierson & Blades at the spring game. A lot of local coaches have told me lately that he's making his name known among his peers. I was told he was shutdown at a recent event(Warzone) in the area. Tall, Fast, Long Limbs. The ideal corner.
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Man you cats dropping a lot of knowledge. Must admit I'm happy to see the names Tyson Campbell and DJ Ivey as equally as good CB prospects because I'm doubtful about Marco and Surtain Jr. coming here. If we are able to secure Henderson, Brini and Davis at CB with Gibson, Wright (please) or Burgess at Safety for 2017 that would be the foundation of return to glory.

Follow that class with Campbell, Blades, Burns (if staff wants) and Ivey at CB 2018 and Jobe and Frierson at Safety 2018. I know things might not shake out this way, but point is we will have two great Defensive Backfield classes for 2017 and 2018.
 
Geo305 said:
I will also say. Shawn Davis is Dades Best corner for his class. I've been sold on him since last spring when I saw him take on every top WR at the SoFLo Shootout. It's still a long way to go with him with the recruiting process, I'll leave it at that.


I love Brini & Henderson upside. Brini a little bit raw still, Henderson has learned quick in some short spurts of playing corner at events, locking on top wideouts.

Marco, I need him to prove himself this year. I love his athleticism and he's a key piece to AH track team but he was only a sittuational player as a sophomore. He has grown quite a bit over the past year while recovering. This year will speak a lot, lot of his hype came off of SFE and viral videos. Time will tell.
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Didn't mean to down vote. Stray bullet.

Go Canes!
 
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maurice3p said:
Geo305 said:
I will also say. Shawn Davis is Dades Best corner for his class. I've been sold on him since last spring when I saw him take on every top WR at the SoFLo Shootout. It's still a long way to go with him with the recruiting process, I'll leave it at that.


I love Brini & Henderson upside. Brini a little bit raw still, Henderson has learned quick in some short spurts of playing corner at events, locking on top wideouts.

Marco, I need him to prove himself this year. I love his athleticism and he's a key piece to AH track team but he was only a sittuational player as a sophomore. He has grown quite a bit over the past year while recovering. This year will speak a lot, lot of his hype came off of SFE and viral videos. Time will tell.
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100% agree. Shawn Davis takes WR's out of games. Completely. I don't think any other CB in Dade can do that. There's a reason SEC schools want him.
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When Geo, Gogeta and Maurice all say he's the best, I believe it. He's one that we have to lock down, can't wait to see Miami at the top again.
 
Zbrod95 said:
INCaneFan said:
Z, differences aside, I've got some questions for you.

How many of these kids have you seen live?

Since coaches can't comment publicly on who they're recruiting, what's your source in who has legitimate commitable offers on the table? Websites, actual recruits, or do you claim an insider in the program?

By the way, your take on Davis is interesting to say the least. Why isn't he what people make him out to be? I'm nowhere near as enamored with Jeudy as a lot of people are, but not many shut him down if that's what did in fact happen.
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I've seen the AH kids live(my cousin goes to heritage) and from time to time I catch other games like SouthRidge and BTW with other firefighter friends of mine because I'm a football junkie. Obviously the OOS kids I haven't seen unless they played Warner Robbins HS in south GA(my grandparents lived there for years). I'm not an insider at all, never claimed to be and look at my updates they're all from sites(I even put what's sites they're from) I share info that's all I do. I only talk about players I know have interest in the program through videos and articles I read...I work for a private ambulance company and Fire rescue departments handle 95% of the calls down here(and get paid A LOT more hence why you'll see me ask other firefighters on this site about their department and if they're hiring) that's my job, not a being an insider ...I do interfacility transports all day long I have all the time in the world to read and summarize articles when coming back to South Florida or any hospital I go to. As far as offers go and who's commitable one of my sites actually updates us on new offers but no one knows who's commitable, not even so called "insiders" but there's certain prospects you know are probably backup plans, I've been following recruiting for years.

My take on Davis is I think he's talented and I agree with Geo that he's the best Corner in Dade, but I don't agree with how much he's hyped on the site. I don't see this Ball Hawk, All American or whatever you wanna call him....I just see a future starter and that he's well coached. Let me say this about Jeudy, I've seen a lot of him...My little brother against him in pop warner, he's inconsistent,has dropped a lot of balls he should've caught, and he disappears at times but when he's on, he is on and anyone who's seen him play will back that up.
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Took awhile for me to get a minute, but fair reply. So your thing and good luck getting hired on where you want to be.
 
Barboni said:
Geo305 said:
Zbrod95 said:
[MENTION=7468]Gator Hatar[/MENTION]
Top 8 CB's for 2018 in my book
Patrick Surtain Jr.
Derrik Allen
Christian Tutt
Tyson Campbell
Gilbert Frierson
Josh Jobe
Kelvin Joseph
Al Blades Jr

All of these guys have offers btw
Click to expand...

Not including Asante Samuel Jr. is a crime. Every event I've been to, he sticks out like a sore thumb at corner. Don't let his size fool you, he's been the best one at most of these settings regardless of class.

AH best DB prospect is Tyson Campbell, I do like Surtain but I've been firm in the fact that I feel Campbell has a better skill set.

Jobe & Frierson can play corner yes, but Jobe will tell you himself he would rather play safety and hit people and roam the field. The play with a lot of range. Same for Frierson. You maximize their ability at safety, corner if the team needs it. (Aka, Columbus moved Jobe down to corner when Brooks sat the rest of the year)

Remember this name. DJ Ivey, South Dade. I came across him when he came with Frierson for junior day in February. I expect an offer to come at some point. He is the real deal. Doesn't hurt that he's close with Frierson & Jobe, he spent a lot of time with Frierson & Blades at the spring game. A lot of local coaches have told me lately that he's making his name known among his peers. I was told he was shutdown at a recent event(Warzone) in the area. Tall, Fast, Long Limbs. The ideal corner.
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Asante Samuel Jr. is the best corner in coverage in all of SFL, regardless of class. I know that the staff is focusing on length at corner, but this guy is too good. 7 of the cornerbacks taken in the first 100 picks of this years NFL draft were 5'10 or shorter.

I'll take Ivey at corner over Jobe and Frierson. I've seen Jobe play corner, and his position at the next level is definitely safety, IMO. Isn't that quick to react to the WR and break out of his backpedal. Will have to be hid in a heavy cover-3 scheme, if he plays corner.

Leave Jobe and Frierson at safety. They give us size, range, and violence.

My top corners:

Tyson Campbell
Asante Samuel Jr.
Patrick Surtain Jr.
DJ Ivey (reminds me a bit of carlos becker, who just won the long jump in the state title)
Al Blades Jr
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Absolutely agree with you on Jobe and Frierson at Safety.

DJ Ivey is as legit as it gets @ CB

As far as Samuel Jr being the top cover corner....I'll buy that but he has some great competition in Ivey(This kid is going to blow the fack up)

Too much **** talent to take them all. I would hate to have to decide between all of those you listed.

I like Christian Tutt quite a bit as well.

No matter who we actually get, we are going to load up on some legit UM talent at CB and Safety between 2017 and 2018.

Been a while since I've been this confident in pulling this type of elite talent.
 
Gator Hatar said:
Geo305 said:
Zbrod95 said:
[MENTION=7468]Gator Hatar[/MENTION]
Top 8 CB's for 2018 in my book
Patrick Surtain Jr.
Derrik Allen
Christian Tutt
Tyson Campbell
Gilbert Frierson
Josh Jobe
Kelvin Joseph
Al Blades Jr

All of these guys have offers btw
Click to expand...

Not including Asante Samuel Jr. is a crime. Every event I've been to, he sticks out like a sore thumb at corner. Don't let his size fool you, he's been the best one at most of these settings regardless of class.

AH best DB prospect is Tyson Campbell, I do like Surtain but I've been firm in the fact that I feel Campbell has a better skill set.

Jobe & Frierson can play corner yes, but Jobe will tell you himself he would rather play safety and hit people and roam the field. The play with a lot of range. Same for Frierson. You maximize their ability at safety, corner if the team needs it. (Aka, Columbus moved Jobe down to corner when Brooks sat the rest of the year)

Remember this name. DJ Ivey, South Dade. I came across him when he came with Frierson for junior day in February. I expect an offer to come at some point. He is the real deal. Doesn't hurt that he's close with Frierson & Jobe, he spent a lot of time with Frierson & Blades at the spring game. A lot of local coaches have told me lately that he's making his name known among his peers. I was told he was shutdown at a recent event(Warzone) in the area. Tall, Fast, Long Limbs. The ideal corner.
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Man you cats dropping a lot of knowledge. Must admit I'm happy to see the names Tyson Campbell and DJ Ivey as equally as good CB prospects because I'm doubtful about Marco and Surtain Jr. coming here. If we are able to secure Henderson, Brini and Davis at CB with Gibson, Wright (please) or Burgess at Safety for 2017 that would be the foundation of return to glory.

Follow that class with Campbell, Blades, Burns (if staff wants) and Ivey at CB 2018 and Jobe and Frierson at Safety 2018. I know things might not shake out this way, but point is we will have two great Defensive Backfield classes for 2017 and 2018.
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I'm with you in regards to Wilson and Surtain but there are so many elite prospects that we will most definitely (we had better) get ours. Campbell and Ivey will be elite CB prospects IMO. Like many here, I am extremely high on those two. In terms of 2017, I view Brini as a must get. That kid could be an absolute freak at CB with the right coaching. Those long arms to go along with the fluidity he has out of his backpedal are things you can't teach. Especially a kid that tall. Brini has a very high ceiling.

[MENTION=13955]Zbrod95[/MENTION] I'm surprised at your view of CJ Henderson. I see an explosive playmaker with elite speed. Will that definitely translate to CB? No not necessarily but you get that kid in here no matter what. I'm also a big fan of Shawn Davis. He may be the most polished of the SoFla CB's. He may not be a ballhawk but he doesn't need to be IMO.
 
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Im not "completely" sold on Henderson as a elite cb prospect translating to the college level.....I need to see him do it on the field against quality competition.
FrancisSaywer said:
Gator Hatar said:
Geo305 said:
Zbrod95 said:
[MENTION=7468]Gator Hatar[/MENTION]
Top 8 CB's for 2018 in my book
Patrick Surtain Jr.
Derrik Allen
Christian Tutt
Tyson Campbell
Gilbert Frierson
Josh Jobe
Kelvin Joseph
Al Blades Jr

All of these guys have offers btw
Click to expand...

Not including Asante Samuel Jr. is a crime. Every event I've been to, he sticks out like a sore thumb at corner. Don't let his size fool you, he's been the best one at most of these settings regardless of class.

AH best DB prospect is Tyson Campbell, I do like Surtain but I've been firm in the fact that I feel Campbell has a better skill set.

Jobe & Frierson can play corner yes, but Jobe will tell you himself he would rather play safety and hit people and roam the field. The play with a lot of range. Same for Frierson. You maximize their ability at safety, corner if the team needs it. (Aka, Columbus moved Jobe down to corner when Brooks sat the rest of the year)

Remember this name. DJ Ivey, South Dade. I came across him when he came with Frierson for junior day in February. I expect an offer to come at some point. He is the real deal. Doesn't hurt that he's close with Frierson & Jobe, he spent a lot of time with Frierson & Blades at the spring game. A lot of local coaches have told me lately that he's making his name known among his peers. I was told he was shutdown at a recent event(Warzone) in the area. Tall, Fast, Long Limbs. The ideal corner.
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Man you cats dropping a lot of knowledge. Must admit I'm happy to see the names Tyson Campbell and DJ Ivey as equally as good CB prospects because I'm doubtful about Marco and Surtain Jr. coming here. If we are able to secure Henderson, Brini and Davis at CB with Gibson, Wright (please) or Burgess at Safety for 2017 that would be the foundation of return to glory.

Follow that class with Campbell, Blades, Burns (if staff wants) and Ivey at CB 2018 and Jobe and Frierson at Safety 2018. I know things might not shake out this way, but point is we will have two great Defensive Backfield classes for 2017 and 2018.
Click to expand...

I'm with you in regards to Wilson and Surtain but there are so many elite prospects that we will most definitely (we had better) get ours. Campbell and Ivey will be elite CB prospects IMO. Like many here, I am extremely high on those two. In terms of 2017, I view Brini as a must get. That kid could be an absolute freak at CB with the right coaching. Those long arms to go along with the fluidity he has out of his backpedal are things you can't teach. Especially a kid that tall. Brini has a very high ceiling.

[MENTION=13955]Zbrod95[/MENTION] I'm surprised at your view of CJ Henderson. I see an explosive playmaker with elite speed. Will that definitely translate to CB? No not necessarily but you get that kid in here no matter what. I'm also a big fan of Shawn Davis. He may be the most polished of the SoFla CB's. He may not be a ballhawk but he doesn't need to be IMO.
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