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TVD
It's not an excuse when your offensive line nearly ends your career. We had a football team with a bad culture, bad scheme fit, and riddled with offensive line injuries. We literally had 3rd string offensive linemen starting.
Everything about last season was not solely on TVD's shoulders, so stop blaming him as having excuses. If you don't have time to throw the ball, you're going to have more incompletions and interceptions. Those are facts not excuses.
#1 ur talking hand times not laser(atleast that's what I believe)when it relates to Harrell. Ross was laser. Yes froggy would give him the business. To put it in context, we've had numerous guys run in the 4.2s hand timed here throughout the years. Now a 4.2 laser ur moving. I don't know what froggy ran timewise & I just kid about all this with froggy. This kid is LEGIT a burner. BUT with my own eyes when froggy had been retired,was done with football,wasn't even serious about working out, He gave some of our fastest dudes here EVER the business...... Back to back to back.
Al Shipman would run at the Wednesday night runners club at PB Lakes High. He was still beating high school track kids in his 30s. He's the fastest person I've ever met, hands down.
Add Santana...
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I’ll take full responsibility for the Froggy thread derail.
He adds a major vertical threat that we’ve been lacking for years. Teams gotta respect him when he’s on the field because he’ll make ‘em pay if they don’t. Hopefully we can snag another WR and 2 guys on the D Line. Major improvements all around though.
I agree with what you're saying. However there salso plenty of validity in what he's saying. You guys put everything on EVERYONE but tvd last season. When the line was healthy(relatively speaking)& playing as a strength tvd still was playing very poorly. All those things you said are accurate. It WASN'T ALL TVD FAULT. However SOME OF IT WAS... He didn't believe in what we were doing(as he shouldn't have)& HE never gave it a chance. It was doomed from day #1 because if your starting QB doesn't buy in and shows that's how he feels to his entire unit well then how's the rest of the team gonna approach it. Plenty of things last season people need to realize there's plenty of blame to go around and part of that is his. Simple.
I’d say Henderson is a better wr, Harrell is just a more explosive athlete
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Yessir
TVD looks like he holds the ball too long. Does he have issues processing reads in real time?
Yes, but taller
You came within a Froggy 40 from heading to Purgatory....I’ll take full responsibility for the Froggy thread derail.
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Wasn't just TVD not buying in ... Ponce, the QB coach wasn't buying in to what Gattis was trying to do. Gattis was WAY over his head and it was obvious to every coach and player. The guy DID NOT run the offense at Michigan. They promoted two other assistants ... one for game planning ... and Harbaugh had input on the actual play calling. So you have a guy with an OC title that is inept at game planning, can't scheme to his roster skill sets, and is horrible at play calling on game day. There was a total meltdown (aka cluster ****) on the offensive side of the ball. Gattis DIDNT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING and it impacted every single facet of the offense. UM would have been more productive without an OC last year, simply keeping the Lashlee play book and letting TVD call the plays with game planning assistance from Ponce.
I also think Ray Ray will play more than Smith
It’s a long running joke I have with you and @Rellyrell as the observer. I have no idea who would give Froggy a race. lol
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I wouldn’t say smith is out at slot, but Ray Ray will play more than him. He’ll be used on the field with them
Froggy would come down when he was playing in the CFL and after his playing days were over (as @Brooklyndee alluded to) and lay waste at Greentree...and not to reiterate, but we're talking 40yds on turf.
Beyond this, Gattis was a total ******* as I understand it. It made things even worse.
You know things are bad when his New Boss is already trashing him.
