The Decline of South Florida

DMoney
DMoney
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Georgia & Texas have enough talent to literally never leave their State for a single player in any class, but yet they both recruit Nationally.

That's pretty much the end of the discussion as far as I'm concerned.
The stipend for a Florida HC is roughly 4500-5500. LOL

The stipend for a Florida HC is roughly 4500-5500. LOL
I was about to say u can add up the entire coaching staffs salary of the top 5 programs in south florida and it wont equal up to the amount that the bottom hc in ga makes alone.
 
The stipend for a Florida HC is roughly 4500-5500. LOL



I was about to say u can add up the entire coaching staffs salary of the top 5 programs in south florida and it wont equal up to the amount that the bottom hc in ga makes alone.
I'm this close bruh...

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If the state don't pass this minimum wage coaching bill I'm out!
 
The stipend for a Florida HC is roughly 4500-5500. LOL
Thats crazy. In Savannah stipends for BBall, Volleyball and a few of the other "larger" roster sports is $3750. Some small schools will have a Head Coach for Varsity be the asst for JV and then the JV head coach be the varsity assistant. They both then can make about $5000-5500
 
The only problem FULLY to this argument is.........

THE SAME SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN GOOD IN FOOTBALL MY WHOLE LIFE ...30+ YEARS.......

ARE THE SAME SCHOOLS IN MIAMI DADE THAT REMAIN GOOD.

Of course some families have relocated from south florida....hence you have the Travis Hunters (boynton- Atlanta area) CJ Baxter (BOYNTON-Orlando)

But there also have been some moving in to the area...kind of balancing it out a bit.

Miami central may have 4 or 5 Rhode Island kids on roster, kid from mobile. MiamI Edison has had some LA kids the last 2 or 3 years

The canadians have been coming down to play for awhile and most of them end up div 1 guys. (Orlando Franklin, etc)

They have even have my country Bahamian athletes come over ...a bunch of em was on Norlands team last year hat went to states.

I really think its Palm Beach County that has been laggin and seeing the population issue occur. The 561 use to have a fair share of elite talents coming out of the much to the north in riviera beach and almost yearly we dont even check the area for elite talents on this board
I dont think it will effect the sfla hs football hierarchy but i think it for sure effects the level of players we use to having down here
 
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The only problem FULLY to this argument is.........

THE SAME SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN GOOD IN FOOTBALL MY WHOLE LIFE ...30+ YEARS.......

ARE THE SAME SCHOOLS IN MIAMI DADE THAT REMAIN GOOD.

Of course some families have relocated from south florida....hence you have the Travis Hunters (boynton- Atlanta area) CJ Baxter (BOYNTON-Orlando)

But there also have been some moving in to the area...kind of balancing it out a bit.

Miami central may have 4 or 5 Rhode Island kids on roster, kid from mobile. MiamI Edison has had some LA kids the last 2 or 3 years

The canadians have been coming down to play for awhile and most of them end up div 1 guys. (Orlando Franklin, etc)

They have even have my country Bahamian athletes come over ...a bunch of em was on Norlands team last year hat went to states.

I really think its Palm Beach County that has been laggin and seeing the population issue occur. The 561 use to have a fair share of elite talents coming out of the much to the north in riviera beach and almost yearly we dont even check the area for elite talents on this board
Those schools will more than likely always dominate at the local and state level. But we not getting those national Day 1 studs on the regular like in the past.

It'll become really apparent in a few years. There's also a School Choice element at play as well. Some of these powerhouse High Schools will have enrollments of less than 500 students by next year.

A big part of football in South Florida was that community foundation. I'm not saying it isn't there anymore -- it still is --but as the cookouts become less and less and the kids are choosing to go to Academia Charter Miami over Holmes Elementary ... we'll continue to cede ground.

You do raise an great and interesting point of the transplants coming from elsewhere. But we all know ain't nothing like them homegrown kids.
 
You guys want to know a secret? Our best teams have always recruited nationally. We only got stuck in this “local recruiting only” mess because the costs involved with recruiting nationally got out of hand and our athletic department didn’t want to spend money on flying back and forth across the country dozens of times. You know why we ignored other areas of the country? Because we didn’t want to spend the money required to recruit there. That’s where the whole “south Florida three stars” argument came from. Have some under the radar local kids slipped through the cracks? Yeah of course but it’s not as likely these days with recruiting services and scouting at an all time high. We’re not going to pull a ton of hidden gems out of Dade county like you could in 1993. Everyone knows about these guys now. We can’t just rely on getting local guys who somehow got ignored by Alabama and Ohio State
Money is the issue, but it wasn't that we didn't want to pay for flights. It's that we: (1) weren't allowed to pay players; (2) didn't have national credibility due to years of failure; and (3) didn't spend the money to hire a coach with a national brand.

We signed a lot of national kids. They just sucked. They were leftovers. And they were routinely outperformed by local kids, both the ones we signed and the ones we turned down.

With Cristobal, we can pay players. We are also paying a coach with national recognition and elite recruiting chops. That's why we're winning battles. An out-of-state kid is always a tougher evaluation due to the distance, but it's easier when you are recruiting no-doubter kids like Mauigoa.
 
Money is the issue, but it wasn't that we didn't want to pay for flights. It's that we: (1) weren't allowed to pay players; (2) didn't have national credibility due to years of failure; and (3) didn't spend the money to hire a coach with a national brand.

We signed a lot of national kids. They just sucked. They were leftovers. And they were routinely outperformed by local kids, both the ones we signed and the ones we turned down.

With Cristobal, we can pay players. We are also paying a coach with national recognition and elite recruiting chops. That's why we're winning battles. An out-of-state kid is always a tougher evaluation due to the distance, but it's easier when you are recruiting no-doubter kids like Mauigoa.
Obviously having the money to pay players makes all the difference in the world but the basics of recruiting a player on the other side of the country were beyond our budget. How many kids from west of the Mississippi did we sign annually? Two? Three? We weren’t flying coaches out to California multiple times to scout some mid-4 star prospect and meet with family and watch games when it was just cheaper to focus on a guy here locally that we didn’t have to travel to scout and could invite in campus multiple times without having to pay for flights or hotels or anything.

We were pretending to be a p5 (or P4 now) powerhouse but were recruiting like a mid tier P5 team.

****, one of the main reasons why we kept putting guys in the league even after falling off was that we’d always get a handful of local kids by default. Look at the kids we’ve had drafted in the first three rounds over the last decade. Every single one besides Jaelan Phillips and David Njoku were all local kids. Our best players have all been local kids, it’s the out of town kids that we’ve dropped the ball on and I 100% believe that’s because we didn’t budget enough to properly evaluate them.
 
The Black population has drastically decreased in Miami-Dade.

It's too expensive to live here and many families are relocating to Tennessee, NC, Texas, and Georgia where the cost of living is more manageable, and it's no coincidence those schools are beginning to reap the benefits of the demographic shift.

USC has been facing a similar dilemma in LA County.

Mario, very wisely, has expanded the recruiting map for this reason among other things.
All of this is happening.

My only bone to pick would be saying the cost of living in Texas is more manageable. That depends bigly on where you're talking about.
 
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I dont think it will effect the sfla hs football hierarchy but i think it for sure effects the level of players we use to having down here
Got ya.

Good thing to track.

For me I think we are seeing a cycle.

There is a lot of young talent that is big time and coming down the pile..Mario must of offered at least 4 or 5 7th or 8th graders already. Lol
 
Obviously having the money to pay players makes all the difference in the world but the basics of recruiting a player on the other side of the country were beyond our budget. How many kids from west of the Mississippi did we sign annually? Two? Three? We weren’t flying coaches out to California multiple times to scout some mid-4 star prospect and meet with family and watch games when it was just cheaper to focus on a guy here locally that we didn’t have to travel to scout and could invite in campus multiple times without having to pay for flights or hotels or anything.

We were pretending to be a p5 (or P4 now) powerhouse but were recruiting like a mid tier P5 team.

****, one of the main reasons why we kept putting guys in the league even after falling off was that we’d always get a handful of local kids by default. Look at the kids we’ve had drafted in the first three rounds over the last decade. Every single one besides Jaelan Phillips and David Njoku were all local kids. Our best players have all been local kids, it’s the out of town kids that we’ve dropped the ball on and I 100% believe that’s because we didn’t budget enough to properly evaluate them.
Aww man it's almost like something I've said consistently. Great minds think alike.
 


Still on top but the gap is closing. Need these next few classes to hit.
 
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