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Another year of questioning Mario in recruiting... LOL
In previous years it was in game coaching! The man has upgraded the talent each year. Now we're 7-0 with a better roster and yet here we are!!! SMH
Undefeated, and have possibly the best offense in school history… we have a bad coach at evaluating talent…. Smh you mopes just can’t quit
@Brooklyndee totally fair. TBH, I have been influenced by snippets of him looking frustrated and distant.
With Cici, Bell, McCormick back, I just got the sense he’s checked out and biding time until he hits the portal. But I only see a tiny fraction of what’s going on with him so it could be entirely my false perception. Really hope I’m misreading the situation.
That data is skewed by including the games against Ball State, FAMU and USF.
In ACC conference play, Miami is:
- 14 out of 17 in yards per play (6.48).
- 14 out of 17 in rush yards per attempt (4.94).
- 12 out of 17 in total yard per game (404).
- 12 out of 17 in pass yards allowed per game (275.7).
- 12 out of 17 in yards per pass attempt (7.6).
- 11 out of 17 in QB Rating allowed (142.08).
Still undefeated. The most important stat.
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I know he wasn't a recruiter, but didn't the db's play better under Rumph than under Addae or Jackson?
OL? Or you mean Kaleb Spencer
And UF lol. Guess other ACC Teams didn't have 4 out of conference games as well, huh? Could say only using 3 games as your entire sample is what is skewing the data...
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I hate mofoer that are negative. Be a photon buddy. Be positive. We will have top 10 class re f'an lax. Sheesh. We are about to destroy FSU and Florida in the same year. Have the best offense we ever had. We are undefeated. **** we are in a lot of sense exceeding expectations.
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We just had the 7th and 4th classes back to back coming off 5-7 and 7-6 ****** seasons,a top 10 class with the way the season is going is not what most expected/hoped for.
Question for you. How many teams have had back to back to back Top 10 classes in the past decade?
I would need to look but would assume the usual suspects.BamaGeorgia,OSU,LSU,Texas,Tam,Oregon and maybe Tenn and USC.
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You got the usual suspects correct, except Oregon. Like Miami, they will only get to three in a row this class (2023-2025).
GA, AL, Taint, UTX, LSU, OKU, AUB (2015 to 2017), USC (2015 to 2018). TAMU, CLEM, FSU (2015 to 2017) ... It's a very small group dominated by BCS playoff teams. GA and AL did it every year, TOSU 9 out of 10., LSU and UTX 8 out of 10. Meanwhile, we have been totally irrelevant for 20 years up until right now, not counting the early part of the season during one Richt year and one Golden year.
I just think we need to be a little more patient and realistic. GA, AL, Taint and lately TX are almost always in the Top 5 or 6. There isn't much room to make the Top 5 until we actually win something. The flywheel is in motion, and it's inevitable we'll get there.
GA, AL, Taint, UTX, LSU, OKU, AUB (2015 to 2017), USC (2015 to 2018). TAMU, CLEM, FSU (2015 to 2017) ... It's a very small group dominated by BCS playoff teams. GA and AL did it every year, TOSU 9 out of 10., LSU and UTX 8 out of 10. Meanwhile, we have been totally irrelevant for 20 years up until right now, not counting the early part of the season during one Richt year and one Golden year.
I just think we need to be a little more patient and realistic. GA, AL, Taint and lately TX are almost always in the Top 5 or 6. There isn't much room to make the Top 5 until we actually win something. The flywheel is in motion, and it's inevitable we'll get there.
Yeah that’s his name
Is it December yet? I don't know what they do now without a letter of intent. But have the agreements with recruits been finalized? No it's a long way until December and given Mario's history we will be fine. Why do human being have to be so nitpicky and crave negativity.
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Clearly that's just not enough...
I think what Lance said, in regards to data already covers this. There's big enough factors in the NFL for many players to become busts and these reasons already translate towards the transition from High School to College at a higher level. But there's many reasons why players don't work out and the eval is on end of that list.
On the player side, the mental side of the game is absolutely key and in my eyes gets overlooked at lot in these conversations. And I'm not talking about whether a player gets a scheme, I'm talking about his willingness and his desire to work and study and do all the things to be well prepared to play. The NFL prevents busts by having prospects talking to psychologists and taking tests and having background checks and all that stuff. I don't think any college team does that to that extent. We'll talk to coaches and opponents and players and evaluate some interviews, but in recruiting, you're trying to convince a player to come here. In the NFL, it's almost the other way around.
Then, there's an injury factor. We can all agree players like Citizen absolutely work out on the college level and become elite players. But then, they have a catastrophic injury and it's done from that point. Or, they have nagging injuries because their body can't handle the level of impact that is required. Or, they simply cannot push beyond what they already have. Physical potential is really weird, some achieve it early, some later and almost everyone achieves it in a slightly different manner. I don't think anyone considers Shemar Stewart to be the same athletic freak that he used to be.
And, ultimately, stuff like coaching stability matters. We have had coaching turnover from the first to the second to the third year. Imagine having two or three different bosses in that timeframe that you work for. Kinda hard to establish a standard, to establish consistency in working together, to establish chemistry and connection. It's easy to pick Miami on the OL. Not so easy in terms of DBs.
Are we at the standard that you should be expecting from a Top 10-program? Nope. Will this improve? Most likely. Our O-Line couldn't block, our receivers couldn't get open or catch a cold two years ago - look what happened since. It's possible. There's young talent defensively that we have that hasn't played yet - maybe their time will come soon. Nobody expected OJ to be as good as he is this early. Sometimes the light comes on early and sometimes, it takes time.
On the player side, the mental side of the game is absolutely key and in my eyes gets overlooked at lot in these conversations. And I'm not talking about whether a player gets a scheme, I'm talking about his willingness and his desire to work and study and do all the things to be well prepared to play. The NFL prevents busts by having prospects talking to psychologists and taking tests and having background checks and all that stuff. I don't think any college team does that to that extent. We'll talk to coaches and opponents and players and evaluate some interviews, but in recruiting, you're trying to convince a player to come here. In the NFL, it's almost the other way around.
Then, there's an injury factor. We can all agree players like Citizen absolutely work out on the college level and become elite players. But then, they have a catastrophic injury and it's done from that point. Or, they have nagging injuries because their body can't handle the level of impact that is required. Or, they simply cannot push beyond what they already have. Physical potential is really weird, some achieve it early, some later and almost everyone achieves it in a slightly different manner. I don't think anyone considers Shemar Stewart to be the same athletic freak that he used to be.
And, ultimately, stuff like coaching stability matters. We have had coaching turnover from the first to the second to the third year. Imagine having two or three different bosses in that timeframe that you work for. Kinda hard to establish a standard, to establish consistency in working together, to establish chemistry and connection. It's easy to pick Miami on the OL. Not so easy in terms of DBs.
Are we at the standard that you should be expecting from a Top 10-program? Nope. Will this improve? Most likely. Our O-Line couldn't block, our receivers couldn't get open or catch a cold two years ago - look what happened since. It's possible. There's young talent defensively that we have that hasn't played yet - maybe their time will come soon. Nobody expected OJ to be as good as he is this early. Sometimes the light comes on early and sometimes, it takes time.
you worrying about this in october! smh
Made more difficult by the fact a big part of evaluation is projecting how a player will develop. So I'd expect "evaluation" and "development" to be highly correlated.
