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Exactly! People around here acting like you need 10 all Americans to win 10 games! You just need to develop guys and run a system that fits them! We’ve got more 4-5 star guys on roster than everyone but Clemson and we only won 10 games once in the last 20 plus years. Wake, Pitt, NC state, even BC and GT have won 10 games more often than us.
Honestly a DT and WR may be enough if we can get that. A depth RB would be cool
I definitely understood what you said. It was just a silly, overblown take
People could also recognize the roster is a sales pitch to save the coaches butt. When we start losing the corch started slipping it into the post game press conferences. It's a time tested formula.
We've been sitting okay with the blue chip ratio for a long time.
The Gattis lovers died away after a few games of apologizing for him. The Mario lovers will too if we don't win this year.
We've been sitting okay with the blue chip ratio for a long time.
The Gattis lovers died away after a few games of apologizing for him. The Mario lovers will too if we don't win this year.
Having a freshman replace Restrepo is a sign of better things to come. Hoping it happens as I don't understand the hype surrounding the young man.
Is he the type of guy you love in your team? Yup, absolutely, 100%. But he is not who we should rely on to get where we want to be - Restrepo is kind of like our offensive version of Flagg.
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I don’t follow other teams but who on Miami’s schedule has elite talent and depth? Clemson, A&M . FSU has more talent but are they elite? I don’t think you need elite talent to compete in the ACC next year. If we’re 5-6 players from competing with Duke then this program is in real trouble!
Last year we heard the WRs were in trouble and that’s how it played out
This year it’s a better group but we’ve got work to do so I expect it to play out like that unless we add a bigtime portal guy
How is that overblown?
Ya know what. Don’t answer that. Just keep thinking you know.
The thing is - Duke schemed around their talent disadvantage. That’s what we’re hoping Dawson and Guidry can do. Last year, our talent advantage was overblown as usual, AND we were getting boat raced in the X’s and O’s.
Truth is people get salty when you mention their favorite high school recruits are just JAGs and busts. Factor that in with a definitive weakness in the coaching department at coordinator positions, and you get a 2022 result.
Our roster is that of a middling ACC team. Don’t hit me with the high school rankings and stars - tell me what your eyes see on the field.
After we hired Guidry I went back and rewatched that game against Notre Dame
I could have geared up watching Marshall’s defense grossly outmatched on paper doing damage in that game
It’s bad enough over the years when we are constantly struggling with middle of the pack ACC teams but when we face a team that is clearly better than us, we don’t even give them a game. That was always deflating especially when you routinely watch college football teams do this on a weekly basis
Anyway. Rant over. I’m with you haha
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We’re nowhere in the stratosphere of elite or even good with talent / depth. I swear this is deja vu from last year lol. Yall are giving me the exact same arguments I got last year. If we don’t pick up help we’ll be walking the exact same razors edge as last year.
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Kinchens + Question marks. But that doesn’t change that we lowered expectations considerably for Mario
1. People wish they didn’t watch last season because the product on the field was unwatchable. We said Mario would never let that happen.
2. Duke was terrible and blew us out without needing a complete rebuild. Early season we made excuses and pointed to USC and said they were different due to QB1 and 2 Portal WR1s. Got silent when Duke rag dolled us.
3. Along with Duke, we also blew out FSU under the failed “staph”. Both railroaded us last year and you now have FSU as a sure 2023 loss - and people are OK with that? Holy **** balls
4. How are we ok with the muttering of our QB1 basically calling it mid season and not only not replacing him through the portal, but losing QB2, a QB3 whose Spring progress is he can hit the passing net and a 3 star freshman? Not only didn’t we replace him, he’s the anointed QB1 again. That’s a culture problem when it was a previous staff…
5. I’m not on board with if it gets hot, leave, then come back when the going is better, especially if posters are going to come back throwing elbows like they worked the paint all game fighting for boards. No. If it gets hot, grab a beer and cry in it while the likes of MTSU **** you, like the rest of us.
6. TE. We brought in a blocking TE, FSU got a starter. Lost Brantley. Our depth is either oft injured, brand new or haven’t proven they can catch.
Lastly. No one here is quitting on Mario, but some sure as **** aren’t willing to lower expectations when we’ve invested more than ever and the previous 4-5 regimes the answer was not to be patient and let them work, it was yell louder, burn it down or you hate Miami and settle for mediocrity… no one was giving Lane patience if he produced a year 1 like that… but we’re here giving mulligans..
Let’s ******* go Mario! Fix it! We’re on the train with you!
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Ok I’m down with this. A disastrous run of injuries could create a worse case scenario,
Yeah getting a proven commodity will be TOUGH sell.
Getting a qb will have to probably come down to an evaluation of traits. Maybe you can get a g5 or fcs guy with game experience.
We should look for guys with air raid experience preparation wise. I don’t think it would be wise to get to confident and try to get a guy from a different system and hope to change him. That was part of Kong’s problem. We liked his physical and leadership traits but we tried to turn a run and shoot qb to an air raid qb and there was mixed results.
Finding an air raid guy with decent accuracy might be the best we can do. Hopefully he can hang when the live bullets fly if TVD misses any time.
It’s so discouraging because I really liked Brashard, George, Couch, Keontra, Harvey, Balom, Chantz, JHH, Markeith, Graves. Can’t believe so few have been impactful much less developed into high level players. JW always had a position issue, and makes as many big mistakes as big plays. Taylor changed momentum in games at times but disappeared at others. Rivers and Chaney have been walking wounded. Wes is super raw still.
Has to be the worst organic development of the roster since pre Schnelly. And I’m not even mentioning all the guys who transfered out or the guys we knew were projects and marginal coming in!!
Thank god for the portal. Imagine this team without Cohen, Lee, McCormick, Parrish, Young, Messidor, Kiko, Deen, Brown and Porter? JFC.
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Disastrous ? Nah. A few injuries throws this current roster into a mess. OL, Rb, S, LB, cb and obviously qb. As of right now our cb room is scary healthy.
I’m so with you. I’m just at the point where I don’t expect anything from guys that haven’t shown much (in terms of the older guys). I’m excited for Kelly and Mesidor under Taylor’s tutelage now…but guys like Chantz and Harvey…they are what they are. Still have hope for Chantz because I loved him out of high school, but he really has yet to show it on the field. It’s now or never.
We as a fanbase just have to realize the talent ain’t there. We’re not that much more talented than the likes of Duke or Pitt or NC State, no matter what the stars or high school pundits declare. These kids were flat out misses and/or didn’t develop how we would have liked. Transfer portal gave us our best players, and look at where the departing ones ended up…mostly at a safety net in SMU (familiarity).
On the contrary, really excited to see how the freshmen class from 2022 progresses; that to me is the biggest indictment of both our changes in evaluations/identifying talent, and development. We will find out shortly enough.
Would this D2 guy who was on campus recently suffice?
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FSU is an interesting comparison. I'm trying to remember when FSU had multiple top 10 classes in the last 4 years as I'm told thats a pre-requisite for winning 10 games. Or maybe while UM fans were mocking Norvell, he was building a strong culture in Tallahassee and we didn't notice it.
Imo? No. Speed , we need it.
I know I’ve been one of the most negative on here lately relating to differentiated talent. But the one thing that does give me optimism is that freshman class and a good chunk of the second years. Mario IS doing what we expected. It’s just a slow roast which is agonizing to us fans. We need to be patient, Barring an exceptional portal haul over the next three months we’re one or two more seasons away from separating ourselves from the ACC pack.
Nah…he’s got traits but he’s very raw. We need instant help…there will be options in the portal in a few weeks. We just need to push our chips in there. You grab a bonafide #1 and a second guy, and this offense completely changes.
Really like the development with the big uglies, pass pro should be much better. Lee is a monster, Cohen is good. If Cooper takes that jump and Francis can solidify his spot…we have the potential to have as good of an o-line as any we’ve had in the past decade (I know the bar is low, but it’s a strong unit).
