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Xavier Lucas is a free man. Fickell is free to watch people ramrod his wife though.

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Coach Macho said:
I think they end up moving Lucas to safety.
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Thank you Coach seen alot of people saying Damari. Any chance they move 2 people to safety? I think we may need another safety either portal or moving someone. Whats your opinion on the moves we've made so far? I cant wait for the DC hire and spring ball to see how things play out! Thank u appreciate ya hope you and your fam had a good holidays my boy
 
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Coach Macho said:
I think they end up moving Lucas to safety.
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Lucas and Poyser at Safety with Patterson serving as a Rover/Striker role sounds good to me. And Dylan Day as the 4th safety up.

Only real question is nickel, and whether they plan on Brantley playing there or something... Oh, Brantley, and OConnor is nice though. And if Damari ends up actually being good even better.
 
Dwinstitles said:
We have terrible db evals besides OJ it seems. I don’t trust anyone they bring in till I see it on the field
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Based on the sample size the problem can't be purely evals. It has to be coaching as well. Sure we have really struggled to recruit the secondary by our standards but just look around the country heck just look at the ACC and you will see teams that haven't recruited nearly as well that are much more cohesive and effective on game day.
 
They may have just gotten a bunch of talented bodies at DB and let the DC figure out who he wants where, which is kinda ideal.
 
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Odysseus said:
So what happened to this being wrapped up this week. Somebody lied
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When you consider where that info likely originated, it isn't hard to understand how that happens. People claiming "end of week" were almost certainly getting that from Lucas's camp. Meanwhile, Lucas's camp has a vested interest in information about a timely "resolution" going public. And I'd be shocked if anyone confirmed that info with a source at either Wisconsin or the NCAA. The result is the dissemination of wishful thinking instead of actual news. Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how it goes in 2025.
 
Super young in the WR room, so a veteran P4 WR with decent production.

I need the new DC to coach up our LB talent.

Another DB/CB (Lucas or someone else).

Let’s ride.
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
When you consider where that info likely originated, it isn't hard to understand how that happens. People claiming "end of week" were almost certainly getting that from Lucas's camp. Meanwhile, Lucas's camp has a vested interest in information about a timely "resolution" going public. And I'd be shocked if anyone confirmed that info with a source at either Wisconsin or the NCAA. The result is the dissemination of wishful thinking instead of actual news. Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how it goes in 2025.
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But it's also a reflection that going to court for an injunction should be a slam dunk. There is literally no statutory "exception" that allows Wisconsin to delay portal entry past 48 hours.

To be honest, I'm not sure why the injunction wasn't pursued in December. It would certainly be granted.

Every other stated/threatened issue (tampering, contractual issue, monetary damages) has no relevance to "can a university ignore the 48-hour rule". The answer to that is "no". A well-written legal brief with snapshots of the NCAA rules. One hour in court. Done.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
But it's also a reflection that going to court for an injunction should be a slam dunk. There is literally no statutory "exception" that allows Wisconsin to delay portal entry past 48 hours.

To be honest, I'm not sure why the injunction wasn't pursued in December. It would certainly be granted.

Every other stated/threatened issue (tampering, contractual issue, monetary damages) has no relevance to "can a university ignore the 48-hour rule". The answer to that is "no". A well-written legal brief with snapshots of the NCAA rules. One hour in court. Done.
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Sure. But if the resolution by week's end was expected to come from the courts, then the statement was even more unrealistic. Even on a TRO, that's still fantasyland fast. I'd expect something closer to 30 days from filing the initial pleading.
 
Seriously. You just walk into court with this rule displayed on a nice big poster-sized display.

"Shall enter". "Within two business days". No exceptions. No rationales. No outside issues. No attempts to inflame the passions of the home-state court or the fanbase. Irrelevant.

Case closed. Injunction granted.




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No_Fly_Zone said:
Sure. But if the resolution by week's end was expected to come from the courts, then the statement was even more unrealistic. Even on a TRO, that's still fantasyland fast. I'd expect something closer to 30 days from filing the initial pleading.
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I don't think the resolution was expected from the court system. I believe some people felt that the obvious (eventual) outcome from the court system would result in Wisconsin "doing the right thing".

We have learned two things here. First, file for the injunction IMMEDIATELY. Second, never underestimate the stubbornness of cows and cheeseheads. And there may be a dietary connection in there somewhere.

And you can get the case expedited on a request for an emergency injunction. Still, it would have been better to file in December.
 
Calinative said:
Lucas and Poyser at Safety with Patterson serving as a Rover/Striker role sounds good to me. And Dylan Day as the 4th safety up.

Only real question is nickel, and whether they plan on Brantley playing there or something... Oh, Brantley, and OConnor is nice though. And if Damari ends up actually being good even better.
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Sound like brantley is going to play nickel
 
bobbydigius said:
Nah, we ain’t there yet. Even if we land Lucas, which we have not, we would still need one more DB. We have done well this portal cycle at getting quality at CB and S but the mission isn’t accomplished yet.
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No we wouldn’t. We got 10 cbs not including Lucas. 9 if you don’t count Richard who probably won’t play next year. Lucas or brown or maybe both will probably move to safety. And it’s a strong chance brown might leave after spring
 
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Let’s really turn this into a ****show and force the ncaa’s hand.

I’m also like 95% joking btw:

Have Lucas tweet out his commitment to Miami like they entered him into the portal.

Enroll him into class and have him start practicing in the spring.

Watch Wisconsin beg the ncaa to get involved and enjoy a laugh.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Seriously. You just walk into court with this rule displayed on a nice big poster-sized display.

"Shall enter". "Within two business days". No exceptions. No rationales. No outside issues. No attempts to inflame the passions of the home-state court or the fanbase. Irrelevant.

Case closed. Injunction granted.




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Easy win? Yes.
Fast win? Relatively speaking, I'd say yes for a preliminary injunction. But that's going to take longer than a week.

These are the practical realities of litigation. Expecting a resolution from a court by week's end without having even filed anything in court yet is absurd. I suspect either: (1) Lucas's team expected Wisconsin to fold under the threat of litigation due to their superior legal position; (2) they expected swift NCAA intervention in their favor; and/or (3) they were posturing.
 
Canes Legacy said:
Let’s really turn this into a ****show and force the ncaa’s hand.

I’m also like 95% joking btw:

Have Lucas tweet out his commitment to Miami like they entered him into the portal.

Enroll him into class and have him start practicing in the spring.

Watch Wisconsin beg the ncaa to get involved and enjoy a laugh.
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I'm in favor of this approach.

Maybe even file for an injunction to prevent Dyoni Hill from playing for Wisconsin.

At a bare minimum, file a vague "tampering" charge, based solely on the quickness between his portal entry and decision to go to Wisconsin.
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
Easy win? Yes.
Fast win? Relatively speaking, I'd say yes for a preliminary injunction. But that's going to take longer than a week.

These are the practical realities of litigation. Expecting a resolution from a court by week's end without having even filed anything in court yet is absurd. I suspect either: (1) Lucas's team expected Wisconsin to fold under the threat of litigation due to their superior legal position; (2) they expected swift NCAA intervention in their favor; and/or (3) they were posturing.
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It's not just preliminary. It's a EMERGENCY injunction. You include the dates in the filing, and point out that there is no adequate alternate remedy.

It's been done before in eligibility cases.
 
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