Xavier Lucas in the portal

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Is it a sure thing that he would come here once he's able to leave?
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I legit do not understand what their case even is? Do they feel he owes them some type of repayment? Like this by now has made it to the University president’s desk with the bad publicity and their response is hold the kid who has a 0% chance of EVER playing at Wisconsin again? lol
i think they know they will lose, they probably will get a fine and slap on the wrist, but they are willing to pay the money in order to **** over miami who they probably believe tampered and lucas, who backed out and tried to leave

feels like they are trying to set a precedent
 

I will say that Heitner is clearly trying to fight this battle on Twitter and maybe that is just because fighting it in court is a detriment to Lucas and his family.

But if I was being cynical, I would say that taking this to court means Lucas' text messages become public in discovery and I'd bet that Heitner and Lucas would NOT want that.

Not sure public pressure is going to get the job done here.
 
i think they know they will lose, they probably will get a fine and slap on the wrist, but they are willing to pay the money in order to **** over miami who they probably believe tampered and lucas, who backed out and tried to leave

feels like they are trying to set a precedent
But the only getting ****ed over is Lucas. At some point he will be in the portal as there is no outcome here where he returns to Wisconsin. While I'm sure Miami would like him to be able to participate in spring practice it is not something that is crippling to his chances of being ready for week 1.
 
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I will say that Heitner is clearly trying to fight this battle on Twitter and maybe that is just because fighting it in court is a detriment to Lucas and his family.

But if I was being cynical, I would say that taking this to court means Lucas' text messages become public in discovery and I'd bet that Heitner and Lucas would NOT want that.

Not sure public pressure is going to get the job done here.
Pretty sure he just trying to put pressure on UW and the NCAA to follow their own rules which state the kid needs to be entered in the portal within 48 hours which passed 3 weeks ago almost. Having to go to court will likely take longer to get it resolved unless he can get an expediated judgement which could prevent him from enrolling for the Spring. I'm not a lawyer but not sure this would be the type of case where there would be discovery anyways as it really is just a matter of a NCAA rule existing that UW is refusing to follow. Also if by some chance there is some smoking gun of a text proving tampering that still doesn't overule the fact the NCAA rule requires he be entered into the portal. If UW feels tampering occurred they can file a compliant with the NCAA and if it was found to have happened they will handle it. It isn't up to UW to police tampering. Tampering is the lowest of violations and the penalty is a slap on the wrist. Edwards our recent hire was found guilty of tampering in texts to a player. The penalty he received was he couldn't text players for 2 weeks. If UW is holding Lucas up because they feel he owes them or their collective damages they are welcome to pursue it as a civil matter but again by rule they have to enter him in the portal.
 
At some point Wisc has to ask themselves what is their desired outcome? And is it attainable or likely? If not, what is an acceptable compromise? Is it attainable or likely? If not, what the **** are we doing???
 
I will say that Heitner is clearly trying to fight this battle on Twitter and maybe that is just because fighting it in court is a detriment to Lucas and his family.

But if I was being cynical, I would say that taking this to court means Lucas' text messages become public in discovery and I'd bet that Heitner and Lucas would NOT want that.

Not sure public pressure is going to get the job done here.
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I will say that Heitner is clearly trying to fight this battle on Twitter and maybe that is just because fighting it in court is a detriment to Lucas and his family.

But if I was being cynical, I would say that taking this to court means Lucas' text messages become public in discovery and I'd bet that Heitner and Lucas would NOT want that.

Not sure public pressure is going to get the job done here.
Yes. And, they would be on home turf, with hometown lawyers, presumably going up against a lightweight litigator from South Florida.

Still, really not worth it to UW. So my guess is that some big **** donor’s ego is driving this.
 
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I legit do not understand what their case even is? Do they feel he owes them some type of repayment? Like this by now has made it to the University president’s desk with the bad publicity and their response is hold the kid who has a 0% chance of EVER playing at Wisconsin again? lol

The only sense to make of this fiasco is that Wisconsin low-key wants litigation. They may somehow believe discovery will provide access to compromising information (such as phone records) that may paint an unflattering picture of XL and Miami. Nothing would change the fact that his transfer request wasn't filed within 48hrs of notification, but they remain unmoved by optics or saber-rattling threats of escalation and are daring XL file a lawsuit.
 
Yes. And, they would be on home turf, with hometown lawyers, presumably going up against a lightweight litigator from South Florida.

Still, really not worth it to UW. So my guess is that some big **** donor’s ego is driving this.
My maybe not-so-hot take is that Lucas was prepared to play for Wisconsin again next season, Miami tampered and offered him a lot more money.

Lucas saw the dollar signs and the chance to go back home and understandably jumped at the offer.

Now Wisconsin is butt hurt about losing arguably its best defensive player and is making a huge deal out of this because two weeks prior, they thought he was locked up and ready to go for next season.

The fact that everyone is pearl clutching over tampering, despite the fact that it is happening across the country, even as we speak, is hilarious.

The sad part is that Wisconsin should be mad at Miami, not Lucas, but the person suffering the most is a 18/19-year-old kid caught in the middle of a ****ing match.
 
The only sense to make of this fiasco is that Wisconsin low-key wants litigation. They may somehow believe discovery will provide access to compromising information (such as phone records) that may paint an unflattering picture of XL and Miami. Nothing would change the fact that his transfer request wasn't filed within 48hrs of notification, but they remain unmoved by optics or saber-rattling threats of escalation and are daring XL file a lawsuit.
You may be right that Wisconsin is willing to litigate, but I’d be surprised if they would get text messages. This thing would effectively be resolved at a preliminary injunction hearing. The attorney would file a motion for a preliminary injunction with the complaint and a hearing would happen pretty quickly. While a judge is likely to allow some expedited discovery prior to the hearing, the scope of discovery would likely be fairly limited and I don’t know how the text messages would be relevant to the relief sought.

Xavier’s attorney is probably doing everything possible to avoid this because getting a preliminary injunction is a fire drill and it costs a lot of money. In this situation his attorney is probably not admitted in Wisconsin and it takes some time to get admitted pro hac vice so you’re paying multiple attorneys. And then you basically have a mini bench trial. Could easily cost $100k or more. Thus, exhausting your options by trying to get the NCAA to intervene is the smart play, but the clock is ticking.
 
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I will say that Heitner is clearly trying to fight this battle on Twitter and maybe that is just because fighting it in court is a detriment to Lucas and his family.

But if I was being cynical, I would say that taking this to court means Lucas' text messages become public in discovery and I'd bet that Heitner and Lucas would NOT want that.

Not sure public pressure is going to get the job done here.
or maybe its just the fact that lawsuits take money and time and if they can get the NCAA involved through public pressure it may take less money and time
 
You may be right that Wisconsin is willing to litigate, but I’d be surprised if they would get text messages. This thing would effectively be resolved at a preliminary injunction hearing. The attorney would file a motion for a preliminary injunction with the complaint and a hearing would happen pretty quickly. While a judge is likely to allow some expedited discovery prior to the hearing, the scope of discovery would likely be fairly limited and I don’t know how the text messages would be relevant to the relief sought.

Xavier’s attorney is probably doing everything possible to avoid this because getting a preliminary injunction is a fire drill and it costs a lot of money. In this situation his attorney is probably not admitted in Wisconsin and it takes some time to get admitted pro hac vice so you’re paying multiple attorneys. And then you basically have a mini bench trial. Could easily cost $100k or more. Thus, exhausting your options by trying to get the NCAA to intervene is the smart play, but the clock is ticking.
This was awesome to read and appreciated.

How long would it take for you to get admitted in Wisconsin? I’ve got $15 towards @Ryanmilli Connection for the Free X Campaign.
 
I agree Wisconsin is cutting off their nose to spite their face, but if Miami has any desire of joining the BIG10, this is going to bite them in the ***. Say what you want, but Wisconsin is one of the most powerful schools in the conference and will do everything they can to make sure UM isn't admitted.
Yeah, **** them. No mercy. If miami makes sense for the big they’ll get admitted there regardless of Lucas.
 
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