Without Cam Ward…

[DTP]

I thought Carpenter/Rivers gone from eligiability, plus Cooper doing what most 3 year canes starters do and declare regardless of if they get drafted or not. So that would be 3/5. Only one declaring for the draf not 3/5 getting drafted. Could have worded it better.

On Rivers- He would be going into year 6 if he stays. He's probably a 5-7th round guy. He can play every position on the Oline which is huge.

So it’s really just Carpenter who won’t be back and possibly Rivers. Although he might be able to make more as a 6th year senior than as a late round/undrafted lineman. Cooper could technically declare and we do have a tradition of undraftable guys declaring early but a) he’s a guard and even the best ones are undervalued in the draft and b) he wasn’t an elite recruit who never planned on playing a fourth year of college football like most of the guys who check out early.

Regardless, it would be year 3 for Mario’s “top o-line class” and it’s about time at least one of those guys grabbed a starting position. If none of the group of Okenlola, Kinsler, McCoy or Tinilau can be counted on to be a legit starting caliber player then I have to seriously question Mario and Mirabal’s ability to not only scout linemen but to develop them.

 

[Angry Ibis]

That's a fair assessment. That said, I would dare say there's more talent on the Miami D compared to those OU teams. That's why it's beyond frustrating. This D doesn't have to be elite, but it should be decent.

So it is coaching then

 

[Angry Ibis]

To play devils advocate

OL Room - really need to see who declares. Could be looking at having to replace 3/5 starters next years if some declare even when they shouldn’t.
RB Room - not worried even if Martinez declares
TE Room - unproven if Arroyo leaves to NFL. No proven blocker either with Cam finally graduating and getting degree 6.
WR room- Sam brown and Horton move up the depth chart then a ton of unproven freshmen. Don’t think that’s good enough to compete for a CFP spot without a high pick a QB.
QB- see above

Defense - I like alot of our young guys as well but the reality is most are not ready to be impact players or even starters next year.

Probably looking at another 7-10 portal starters for next years team which is wild for a team that preaches a recruiting focus in year 3 of a HC.

If our defense had pieces to work with, they should be playing, because we are a turn style. Need to hit to portal HARD for difference makers.

 

[SinisterCane]

Everybody keeps talking about players, but it comes down to Mario. He offers nothing on the sideline.. Miami need elite coordinators who are going to be soon to be head coaches to balance out Mario, who needs an analyst just a call timeouts.


As long as Mario is the head coach, we will continue to be at a disadvantage when it comes to trying to outcoach other teams.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Stupid thread that should NEVER have reached 14 pages.....

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry freaking Christmas. Mods, please lock and delete this foolishness

What if I told you this thread was started by a Maude....

 

[TaylorWalls]

Everybody keeps talking about players, but it comes down to Mario. He offers nothing on the sideline.. Miami need elite coordinators who are going to be soon to be coat head coaches, the balance out Mario, who needs an analyst just a call timeouts.


As long as Mario is the head coach, we will continue to be at a disadvantage when it comes to trying to outcoach other teams.

Funny how "outcoaching" changes from year to year depending on which players are on which roster.

 

[BoxingRobes]

If Jalen Rivers stays, we will have a great line next year. He should play guard full time.

LT - Bell
LG - Rivers
C - Rodriguez
RG - Cooper
RT - Mauigoa

Killer line.

 

[JHallCanes]

Everybody keeps talking about players, but it comes down to Mario. He offers nothing on the sideline.. Miami need elite coordinators who are going to be soon to be coat head coaches, the balance out Mario, who needs an analyst just a call timeouts.


As long as Mario is the head coach, we will continue to be at a disadvantage when it comes to trying to outcoach other teams.

Thread 'Mario Cristobal offers no discernable advantage'

Nov 15, 2021

I know a majority of this board has an unhealthy obsession with bringing alumni home to save the program, but Mario is not what we need. He offers no tangible advantage for this program.

I hear everybody say, he'll fix the OL like he's the only person in the country that can recruit good o-linemen. The truth is, people say that about him because that's all he truly brings to the table. He has no system that

Fans will also talk about his recruiting. It's true; he's killing it right now, but we've seen time and time again that you need more than good players to win games. We've seen...

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[SinisterCane]

If Jalen Rivers stays, we will have a great line next year. He should play guard full time.

LT - Bell
LG - Rivers
C - Rodriguez
RG - Cooper
RT - Mauigoa

Killer line.

We allegedly have a killer line this year, but run game under Mario will always and forever be “ up the gut and 3 yards of dust”

Serious question, when was the last time we had a design running play to the perimeter?

 

[SinisterCane]

Thread 'Mario Cristobal offers no discernable advantage'

Nov 15, 2021

I know a majority of this board has an unhealthy obsession with bringing alumni home to save the program, but Mario is not what we need. He offers no tangible advantage for this program.

I hear everybody say, he'll fix the OL like he's the only person in the country that can recruit good o-linemen. The truth is, people say that about him because that's all he truly brings to the table. He has no system that

Fans will also talk about his recruiting. It's true; he's killing it right now, but we've seen time and time again that you need more than good players to win games. We've seen...

• RiDLer80
• Replies: 623
• Forum: Eye In The Sky

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[Telituesday]

Washington state went from 5-7 to 8-1 without him. Sounds like we should grab Mateer

 

[TheEye]

Mario landed Cam Ward. Yet all we hear about is how bad Mario is on game day. Give our coach time he could land a field leader on both sides of the ball!

 

[TaylorWalls]

Mario landed Cam Ward. Yet all we hear about is how bad Mario is on game day. Give our coach time he could land a field leader on both sides of the ball!

When we're 7-5, it "all falls on the head coach". When the same coach is 9-1, it's only because of the quarterback.

 

[Angry Ibis]

When we're 7-5, it "all falls on the head coach". When the same coach is 9-1, it's only because of the quarterback.

You joined in 2021 --- so you know TVD was blamed for all losses the last 2 seasons --- if you want to play that game.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Perhaps, or maybe the team plays better as a team, because they aren't so damned comfortable with Cam saving their rear ends.

While Cam has covered up some warts, I also believe he has exposed some. Our team looks like they are relying only on him. I'm talking consciously believing that he has their backs, so they don't have to try so hard. "Oh we're gonna score 50, so what does it matter if GT scores 28?" Week after week. Same old crap.

Is this a serious post?

 

[mcnaire2004]

Our defense is so bad. It's amazing to think that without even an average QB we may have a losing record.

 

[TaylorWalls]

You joined in 2021 --- so you know TVD was blamed for all losses the last 2 seasons --- if you want to play that game.

Not by people who claim that it "all falls on the head coach" when we lose.

 

[WestEndZone]

If I had hooves I would be a horse.

 

[Manfred_Cane]

Thanks?

 

[Angry Ibis]

Not by people who claim that it "all falls on the head coach" when we lose.

It fell on previous head coaches, but recently that has not been the case for some reason.