Will Golden ever win a National Championship @ UM?

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Yes or no answer....support your answer as you wish.

No hedge bets either here pussies. Don't say "if he fires Coach X" or "if he makes this schematic change". Does he have what it takes to be a leader of a National Championship caliber program?

In my opinion, you either have faith he'll make the correct decisions to move the program forward or you don't.

Does he have what it takes?

Put your pen to paper and tack this .......we can revisit it later.
 
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Sorry buts it not happening. Possibly an ACC title but well not be winning the big one with Al at the helm.
 
I like your no bull**** style OP.

I'm not going to expound on it but I will simply say "yes"

He will be given plenty of time to fix his ****-ups and eventually the excuses will stop, the recruits will continue to roll in, and we will get there.
 
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The funny thing is by most of your standards, there is only 1 elite coach in College Football and his name is Nick Saban. Everyone else is a ******* corch.

Really you've got two coaches that could be considered elite by our board standards:

1. Saban

2. Urban

Do we have some issues, of course. That game was one of the most painful things I've ever had to sit through as a fan. Grasp some perspective.
 
The funny thing is by most of your standards, there is only 1 elite coach in College Football and his name is Nick Saban. Everyone else is a ******* corch.

Really you've got two coaches that could be considered elite by our board standards:

1. Saban

2. Urban

Do we have some issues, of course. That game was one of the most painful things I've ever had to sit through as a fan. Grasp some perspective.

Agreed. Most elite level coaches are in the pros or aspire to be. College is a training grounds for coaches and players. Its what makes the college game unique, and pretty ******* entertaining.
 
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No. Mark Richt v.2.0. You have to have a certain amount of ruthlessness and tenacity to win the ship. See Meyer, Saban, Jimmy Johnson, Carroll, etc. This ain't a nice guy business. Those guys will do anything to win (negative recruit, play freshman over 5th year seniors, etc.). Golden isn't that type of coach. He will make us relevant like this year, and get 3/4 star recruits and every blue moon a 5 star, but he is not on that level. Not as a recruiter and not on gameday. A good coach just not great.
 
No. Mark Richt v.2.0. You have to have a certain amount of ruthlessness and tenacity to win the ship. See Meyer, Saban, Jimmy Johnson, Carroll, etc. This ain't a nice guy business. Those guys will do anything to win (negative recruit, play freshman over 5th year seniors, etc.). Golden isn't that type of coach. He will make us relevant like this year, and get 3/4 star recruits and every blue moon a 5 star, but he is not on that level. Not as a recruiter and not on gameday. A good coach just not great.

I understand your point, however, coaches like Coker, Stoops, Miles, Dennis Erickson, prove it wrong. Not saying the previous are what Golden should aspire to be, however, they've all won ships. Carroll can hardly be considered "ruthless". Dude is a players coach, to the bone.
 
Yes, but it will take him longer than we'd like.

We're 2-3 years away from being legit title contenders.

I really don't see us being that far off but I agree with you it will take that long. Fine line in college football year to year and I think it's important to realize we DO have plenty to be happy about. There's some big changes that need made, but not changes that will require a rebuilding process all over again.
 
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Yes, but it will take him longer than we'd like.

We're 2-3 years away from being legit title contenders.

I agree with this assessment 100%. My only concern is the fans/supporters grow to uneasy and it has a terrible negative impact on the program. The crowd support at home games is already atrocious, hope it doesn't get too much worse.

I'm really pulling for the team these last three games, otherwise this situation could become extremely toxic (prematurely IMO).
 
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Yes, but it will take him longer than we'd like.

We're 2-3 years away from being legit title contenders.

I agree with this assessment 100%. My only concern is the fans/supporters grow to uneasy and it has a terrible negative impact on the program. The crowd support at home games is already atrocious, hope it doesn't get too much worse.

I'm really pulling for the team these last three games, otherwise this situation could become extremely toxic (prematurely IMO).

Valid, but IMO Golden has bought himself enough leeway with the people that make the decisions, because of the way he handled the investigation despite being blindsided with it.

The fans will just have to ******* deal with it, and I think it will ultimately be a good thing.
 
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