Who should be the top 4?

[Tad Footeball]

With 8 teams we can do 3 at large bids and the other 5 are locked in as conference champs.


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Makes too much sense. It rustles those that get moist over and/or profit from the "embrace debate" horse$hit culture that has invaded sports though.

 

[Colombie]

The devaluing of non conference games is a pretty good argument.

That said, I think the meaning of a Conference Championship game should not be devalued either by essentially saying it is just a money making game of window dressing while teams not good enough to play in it get into a playoff.

We will see what the committee decides and it will be important since it will set s precedent on how teams will play during the regular season from now on.

 

[NJshoreCane]

Clemson added a Conference Championship and a top-20 win to their resume. They jump OSU.
Washington added a Conference Championship and a top-10 win to their resume. They jump OSU.
PSU added a Conference Championship and a top-6 win to their resume. They jump OSU.

#1 Bama
#2 Clemson
#3 UW
#4 PSU
#5 OSU

The "best" teams agrument has got to go.
On-field results HAVE to mean something.
If not, why play out the season?
Why not just put Bama and OSU up there, call their games exhibitions, and have everyone else play for #3 and #4 ??

 

[Tad Footeball]

Again, the 8 team playoff (5 conf champs + 3 at large) makes TOO much sense as it blends an objective benchmark in winning your conference and still allows the 3 at large spots to be a subjective debate while also adding "deserving" teams. It doesn't devalue regular season games at all but increases the amount of games that'll actually mean something while encouraging stronger non-conf scheduling (a criteria that'd be essential for the at large spots).

The current system does nothing but encourage attempting to go undefeated. And for those saying a 4 loss conf champ sneaking in would be the end of the world then just set a bar that negates the auto bid if you have 4 or more losses. Also, PLEASE stop equating that arguing about the 5th team being left out now would be the same as arguing about teams 9 or 10 getting shafted. If you can't see the obvious drops in resume from leaving out entire conferences now at that 5 spot vs some 9 or 10 team's attempt at making a case then you're either just a contrarian or are a fool and think the current system's built in controversy is good for the sport. "It gets us talkin'!" is a beyond lame rationale.

 

[Cribby]

6 teams make sense. The 5 conference champions and one wildcard to handle a situation like Ohio State. Make the non-conference championship path narrow to emphasis winning the conference, but still possible.

The problem with five automatic conference champions and only one wildcard is that it doesn't account for upsets on the final Saturday. Can you envision a playoff in which Colorado and Virginia Tech were both in a six team playoff? No thank you.

That's fine by me. It makes conference championship games de facto playoff games.

I think the only problem with making conference championships a defacto playoff game is teams will quit worrying about non conference games. I could even see teams like Bama and OSU not even playing the starters in those games to prevent injuries which would make those games useless to play/watch.

I hate OSU just like the rest of us, but I'd rather see a one loss OSU in the playoff over a PSU team that lost 2 games - one being Pitt.

This

 

[TemplarCane]

Alabama, Washington, and Clemson. I feel for Penn State, not only did they beat Ohio State they came back from 21 down to win their conference. Penn State should be in, Ohio State will be in.

I'm not sure it will matter in the end, Alabama will win the championship.

All the Penn State haters on the board would scream if Miami lost out on the CFP in the same manner. Remember 2000?

 

[NJshoreCane]

this is one of those years where a playoff isn't needed. if bammer beats gata today, they should be crowned national champs. far and away the best team....its really not even close.

They lose in the Natty game if they play Clemson, IMO.

 

[TheNation305]

1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. Washington
4. Ohio State
5. PSU
Idk why espn is making it seem like Washington is on the bubble and Ohio State is a lock.. the final spot should come down to PSU or Ohio State I see the case for both, but I think OSU gets the nod

 

[Cribby]

Alabama, Washington, and Clemson. I feel for Penn State, not only did they beat Ohio State they came back from 21 down to win their conference. Penn State should be in, Ohio State will be in.

I'm not sure it will matter in the end, Alabama will win the championship.

All the Penn State haters on the board would scream if Miami lost out on the CFP in the same manner. Remember 2000?

They beat osu on a fluke *** play . On their home field, if they play osu
10 times, they probably lose nine. But got raped by mich 49-10. Osu lost one game to psu's two.

Osu also scheduled ooc, went into Norman and murdered Okl.

To me it's simple. Psu is out

 

[TemplarCane]

Alabama, Washington, and Clemson. I feel for Penn State, not only did they beat Ohio State they came back from 21 down to win their conference. Penn State should be in, Ohio State will be in.

I'm not sure it will matter in the end, Alabama will win the championship.

All the Penn State haters on the board would scream if Miami lost out on the CFP in the same manner. Remember 2000?

They beat osu on a fluke *** play . On their home field, if they play osu
10 times, they probably lose nine. But got raped by mich 49-10. Osu lost one game to psu's two.

Osu also scheduled ooc, went into Norman and murdered Okl.

To me it's simple. Psu is out

Winning the conference should count. Penn State beat Ohio State, end of story. The game that hurts PSU is the loss to Pittsburgh.

 

[Cribby]

Alabama, Washington, and Clemson. I feel for Penn State, not only did they beat Ohio State they came back from 21 down to win their conference. Penn State should be in, Ohio State will be in.

I'm not sure it will matter in the end, Alabama will win the championship.

All the Penn State haters on the board would scream if Miami lost out on the CFP in the same manner. Remember 2000?

They beat osu on a fluke *** play . On their home field, if they play osu
10 times, they probably lose nine. But got raped by mich 49-10. Osu lost one game to psu's two.

Osu also scheduled ooc, went into Norman and murdered Okl.

To me it's simple. Psu is out

Winning the conference should count. Penn State beat Ohio State, end of story. The game that hurts PSU is the loss to Pittsburgh.

2 losses to 1, osu better ooc win and didn't get raped like psu did to Mich.

There's five power five conferences and four spots , I don't want to hear about conference championship. Once Psu lost second game and got obliterated by Mich they lost their gripe.

And that's why they're not in.

 

[Cribby]

I think Wash vs Penn State should be the debate. It's about the best four teams.

 

[valid]

i wouldn't sleep on Washington vs Bammer. they have a tricky offense that could give Saban trouble.

 

[Bird4um]

It's set.

Bama
Clemson
Ohio st
Washington

Official

 

[Bird4um]

I'm glad washington gets Bama. Peterson can beat him with a month to get ready!!

 

[numbers]

If Ohio State gets in, they should be no higher than four. Not winning their conference championship has to be held against them.

1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. UDub
4. OSU

5. PSU

While the conference championship matters, PSU got to it on a tie breaker. They lost twice, OSU only lost once. Head-to-head matters, but you got to take care of business elsewhere.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

I think an 8 team playoff would be sweet; each power 5 champ, then 3 at large teams.

 

[Zbrod95]

It should've been
1)Bama
2)Clemson
3)Washington
4)Michigan

But these shills voted for OSU....are you serious? No championship with a loss to PSU and then Michigan throttled PSU and lost 2 games from refereeing. It's ridiculous, if that's how they make their decisions; I doubt UM will ever get a fair shake once we get back there again

 

[TemplarCane]

Alabama, Washington, and Clemson. I feel for Penn State, not only did they beat Ohio State they came back from 21 down to win their conference. Penn State should be in, Ohio State will be in.

I'm not sure it will matter in the end, Alabama will win the championship.

All the Penn State haters on the board would scream if Miami lost out on the CFP in the same manner. Remember 2000?

They beat osu on a fluke *** play . On their home field, if they play osu
10 times, they probably lose nine. But got raped by mich 49-10. Osu lost one game to psu's two.

Osu also scheduled ooc, went into Norman and murdered Okl.

To me it's simple. Psu is out

Winning the conference should count. Penn State beat Ohio State, end of story. The game that hurts PSU is the loss to Pittsburgh.

2 losses to 1, osu better ooc win and didn't get raped like psu did to Mich.

There's five power five conferences and four spots , I don't want to hear about conference championship. Once Psu lost second game and got obliterated by Mich they lost their gripe.

And that's why they're not in.

Well, OSU was selected so this is a moot point.

And it will be an upset if Alabama doesn't win it all again anyway....

 

[TemplarCane]

I think Wash vs Penn State should be the debate. It's about the best four teams.

Good point. But, PSU has one more loss.

This year brings more reason to expand to eight teams. The P5 conference champions and three at-large berths.