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Where's our Stephen Ross?

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Notsince1985 said:
Or Ross could just donate money to Miami because it's the nice thing to do for the local school. Tom Benson, owner of the Saints donated a large chunk of money to Tulane for their new on campus stadium in spite of having no ties to Tulane. The new stadium will be called called Benson Field at Yulman Stadium.
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fat chance of that happening in light of his track record in general with this area. this the same guy that just this year tried to shake down the county for money to fix up the stadium he owns.
 
Ernie McCracken said:
Angry Ibis said:
I did not have the same experience as Ernie with the law school. Last year I was looking for a career change, called the career planning office and they were extremely helpful. I continue to get regular check ins from the person I was working with to see how things are going. I give a little here and there to both the Hurricane Club and the law school, but am not a high roller donor.

I agree that the alumni network needs to be stronger, but also look at it as if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I am more part of the problem. I'll help anyone that needs it, but also made an attempt to be involved in my local area, but the others involved annoyed me to the point where I'd rather watch the games at home or in person than a game watch.

I'm in my 30s and would rather watch the game with the crew cursing wearing camos and sporting the tattoos (no, not the wiggers from the other thread), than the gray beards talking about the old times.

Not all the fault lies with the school.
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I don't want to make a big issue of it, but I do want to bring up one point. A strong alumni network is what makes a Harvard a Harvard, or a Yale a Yale, or, for that matter, what gives any other ivy league institution it's core advantage over other institutions. When a Harvard man graduates from Harvard, other Harvard alumni go out of their way to get him a good job. That sets up a close-knit network where generation after generation goes to the same school, where success breeds success, etc.

I help you when you're up-and-coming, and then you give back when you're established. That's the circle.

At Miami, we didn't have that when I graduated. If Donna Shalala is making strides in that direction, then I find that to be sensible and encouraging to hear, but it wasn't the case a decade ago. When you graduated, you were on your own. The link, in a sense, which is so strong at the ivy league institutions, was essentially severed at graduation.

In a sense, Miami was ****ing away it's #1 long term asset, it's alumni, in favor of a short term gain (not having to invest in broke recent grads). Sure, you can say that recent grads are responsible for their own success, and you're right. You can't expect anything from anyone. However, that's not the formula for success, if you look at the Harvards and the Stanfords of the world. Those guys don't go it on their own, the alumni networks are undeniably invaluable.

On a related note, FOOTBALL is the one thing Miami has which can bring its alumni back to Jesus, so to speak. As an alumni, I never feel like more of a 'Cane than when the football team is going in the right direction. Otherwise, I'm really not ever too interested in what the U is doing, nor am I paying any attention. The football causes me to pay attention, and if I'm paying attention, that's the only way I'll ever donate. It's not the Harvard model, but it can be a pretty **** good band aid.

So that, in my opinion, is the strongest argument the University has for increasing its emphasis on football.
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I wouldn't have went to Miami if not for their football program.
 
So net net, after flow through, Ross wanted the taxpayers of Dade County to donate $200M to the University of Michigan. Sounds legit. *******.
 
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52CANES said:
Micky Arison went to The U... hook us up bro!
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I think he's more worried about the Heat's luxury taxes than helping The U...

Wait. What if Miami gives him some sort of honorary degree for his works as a businessman? Maybe that could spark his interest in donating to the university... Just a thought.
 
Ernie McCracken said:
Angry Ibis said:
I did not have the same experience as Ernie with the law school. Last year I was looking for a career change, called the career planning office and they were extremely helpful. I continue to get regular check ins from the person I was working with to see how things are going. I give a little here and there to both the Hurricane Club and the law school, but am not a high roller donor.

I agree that the alumni network needs to be stronger, but also look at it as if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I am more part of the problem. I'll help anyone that needs it, but also made an attempt to be involved in my local area, but the others involved annoyed me to the point where I'd rather watch the games at home or in person than a game watch.

I'm in my 30s and would rather watch the game with the crew cursing wearing camos and sporting the tattoos (no, not the wiggers from the other thread), than the gray beards talking about the old times.

Not all the fault lies with the school.
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I don't want to make a big issue of it, but I do want to bring up one point. A strong alumni network is what makes a Harvard a Harvard, or a Yale a Yale, or, for that matter, what gives any other ivy league institution it's core advantage over other institutions. When a Harvard man graduates from Harvard, other Harvard alumni go out of their way to get him a good job. That sets up a close-knit network where generation after generation goes to the same school, where success breeds success, etc.

I help you when you're up-and-coming, and then you give back when you're established. That's the circle.

At Miami, we didn't have that when I graduated. If Donna Shalala is making strides in that direction, then I find that to be sensible and encouraging to hear, but it wasn't the case a decade ago. When you graduated, you were on your own. The link, in a sense, which is so strong at the ivy league institutions, was essentially severed at graduation.

In a sense, Miami was ****ing away it's #1 long term asset, it's alumni, in favor of a short term gain (not having to invest in broke recent grads). Sure, you can say that recent grads are responsible for their own success, and you're right. You can't expect anything from anyone. However, that's not the formula for success, if you look at the Harvards and the Stanfords of the world. Those guys don't go it on their own, the alumni networks are undeniably invaluable.

On a related note, FOOTBALL is the one thing Miami has which can bring its alumni back to Jesus, so to speak. As an alumni, I never feel like more of a 'Cane than when the football team is going in the right direction. Otherwise, I'm really not ever too interested in what the U is doing, nor am I paying any attention. The football causes me to pay attention, and if I'm paying attention, that's the only way I'll ever donate. It's not the Harvard model, but it can be a pretty **** good band aid.

So that, in my opinion, is the strongest argument the University has for increasing its emphasis on football.
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You are not wrong Ernie. You are not wrong. We need to invest in the network.
 
I would agree with Ernie and the other posters about our historical effort with alumni. The last few years though, the effort has vastly improved, and in fact, there is a big alumni event on September 12th in multiple cities.
 
We have actually done a very good fundraising job under Shalala, however, most of the funds have gone to academics, which is fine. More recently, under Blake's leadership, sports have gotten more attention.

Re Mickey Arison, since he was mentioned specifically, my understanding is that he QUIETLY supports the U.
 
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Ernie McCracken said:
Angry Ibis said:
I did not have the same experience as Ernie with the law school. Last year I was looking for a career change, called the career planning office and they were extremely helpful. I continue to get regular check ins from the person I was working with to see how things are going. I give a little here and there to both the Hurricane Club and the law school, but am not a high roller donor.

I agree that the alumni network needs to be stronger, but also look at it as if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I am more part of the problem. I'll help anyone that needs it, but also made an attempt to be involved in my local area, but the others involved annoyed me to the point where I'd rather watch the games at home or in person than a game watch.

I'm in my 30s and would rather watch the game with the crew cursing wearing camos and sporting the tattoos (no, not the wiggers from the other thread), than the gray beards talking about the old times.

Not all the fault lies with the school.
Click to expand...

I don't want to make a big issue of it, but I do want to bring up one point. A strong alumni network is what makes a Harvard a Harvard, or a Yale a Yale, or, for that matter, what gives any other ivy league institution it's core advantage over other institutions. When a Harvard man graduates from Harvard, other Harvard alumni go out of their way to get him a good job. That sets up a close-knit network where generation after generation goes to the same school, where success breeds success, etc.

I help you when you're up-and-coming, and then you give back when you're established. That's the circle.

At Miami, we didn't have that when I graduated. If Donna Shalala is making strides in that direction, then I find that to be sensible and encouraging to hear, but it wasn't the case a decade ago. When you graduated, you were on your own. The link, in a sense, which is so strong at the ivy league institutions, was essentially severed at graduation.

In a sense, Miami was ****ing away it's #1 long term asset, it's alumni, in favor of a short term gain (not having to invest in broke recent grads). Sure, you can say that recent grads are responsible for their own success, and you're right. You can't expect anything from anyone. However, that's not the formula for success, if you look at the Harvards and the Stanfords of the world. Those guys don't go it on their own, the alumni networks are undeniably invaluable.

On a related note, FOOTBALL is the one thing Miami has which can bring its alumni back to Jesus, so to speak. As an alumni, I never feel like more of a 'Cane than when the football team is going in the right direction. Otherwise, I'm really not ever too interested in what the U is doing, nor am I paying any attention. The football causes me to pay attention, and if I'm paying attention, that's the only way I'll ever donate. It's not the Harvard model, but it can be a pretty **** good band aid.

So that, in my opinion, is the strongest argument the University has for increasing its emphasis on football.
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I think that you make a lot of good points here. My small issue is how to create the loop from established graduate, to up and coming, recent graduates. The school can be better about establishing this. Football is not the answer. Football gives you something to talk about. Supporting a recent graduate that you do not know (like giving them a job) occurs when you are confident that a "Miami" guy is a good bet.

I do agree that football may inspire a donation from someone who is that inclined.

In relation to another post. Large donations to universities are done to get a tax break. period. Getting money from taxpayers for a private staium is about paying less for something you want. These concepts are the same, not a fraud.
 
Everybody *****ing in here better have every single DVD The Rock has ever been in
 
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