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Cribby said:
Its always guys who will be popping pretty soon.
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so it sounds like I'll be popping pretty soon too!

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Cribby said:
Is he a tad overrated ? Yes. Is he a generational talent? No. Does his name garner him attention? Yes. But at this point I see a lot of hating on a kid from grown *** men in the media , who are trying to get sound bites. Trying their best Skip Bayless hot take. At this point It’s almost cliche to say he’s overrated or a three star.

The kid has more eyes on him than any HS player maybe in history, an unreal level of pressure and imo handled it all really well.

As a prospect he’s a legit four star imo , he also has a lot of tangibles to go with good physical talent. I wouldn’t bet against a qb named manning , he was bred for this. He was breaking down film and coverages as a jit. He’s also legit talented

I wouldn’t be shocked if he balled out at Texas. Tbh I‘d be more surprised if he didn’t.
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Mike Farrell is beyond desperate for clicks since he no longer works for a recruiting service, so he knew what he was doing this last week, putting out all the OR content on Arch. I think he is, too, but it’s despicable when turds like Farrell leverage that.
 
Kansas Cane said:
Mike Farrell is beyond desperate for clicks since he no longer works for a recruiting service, so he knew what he was doing this last week, putting out all the OR content on Arch. I think he is, too, but it’s despicable when turds like Farrell leverage that.
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Farrell looks like he's coming apart at the seams lately. Really disheveled- looking all the time and he sounds maybe even a little bitter.... I guess that's what happens when you become irrelevant...
 
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Cribby said:
Is he a tad overrated ? Yes. Is he a generational talent? No. Does his name garner him attention? Yes. But at this point I see a lot of hating on a kid from grown *** men in the media , who are trying to get sound bites. Trying their best Skip Bayless hot take. At this point It’s almost cliche to say he’s overrated or a three star.

The kid has more eyes on him than any HS player maybe in history, an unreal level of pressure and imo handled it all really well.

As a prospect he’s a legit four star imo , he also has a lot of tangibles to go with good physical talent. I wouldn’t bet against a qb named manning , he was bred for this. He was breaking down film and coverages as a jit. He’s also legit talented

I wouldn’t be shocked if he balled out at Texas. Tbh I‘d be more surprised if he didn’t.
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I wouldnt have any concerns about him handling the pressure, as you said, he's been in the spotlight his whole life. I think the problem at many programs would be that if a coach feels another QB on the roster is better and he doesn't start Manning, that coach is going to get crucified by the fans - especially if the other QB has a couple bad games. Now would that be a problem for Cristobal? Probably not. Would it have been a problem for Diaz? Yes, I think it could have been an issue for a guy desperately trying to keep his job. He'd might have given into the pressure to play the more hyped QB though it wouldn't have given the team the best chance to win. If you gave me the choice between a 5 star CB like McClain or 5 star QB Manning, I'd take McClain even though the Manning name would surely generate way more national headlines.
 
TimeBum said:
I wouldnt have any concerns about him handling the pressure, as you said, he's been in the spotlight his whole life. I think the problem at many programs would be that if a coach feels another QB on the roster is better and he doesn't start Manning, that coach is going to get crucified by the fans - especially if the other QB has a couple bad games. Now would that be a problem for Cristobal? Probably not. Would it have been a problem for Diaz? Yes, I think it could have been an issue for a guy desperately trying to keep his job. He'd might have given into the pressure to play the more hyped QB though it wouldn't have given the team the best chance to win. If you gave me the choice between a 5 star CB like McClain or 5 star QB Manning, I'd take McClain even though the Manning name would surely generate way more national headlines.
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It’s like that with any highly rated qb. The five star diva qb and family are always showing their asses when they don’t get the nod. Fans and media too. The days of waiting your turn are over. Entitled brats want the job now. So I don’t think a coach will feel that much more pressure with a Manning than any other five star. The backup is always the most most popular guy in the stadium , especially if it’s a five star. Just watch the Brady documentary, his situation with Drew Henson.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
His genetics are such that he could be amazing.

But at this point, he hasn't been playing the toughest competition in high school. New Orleans isn't what it used to be, pre-Katrina.

If his mental toughness is such that he works harder than anyone, he will develop quite nicely. I just don't know why everyone assumes so much, based on his name alone. And if you notice, he didn't go out to Elite 11 or a bunch of the other events where you could at least get a "side-by-side comparison".
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This my issue. He has all the hype because of the name and he’s living off that as opposed to competing at these camps. They’re doing him a disservice. It won’t make him better and it won’t build respect amongst his peers but whatever. Not our problem.
 
RVACane said:
This my issue. He has all the hype because of the name and he’s living off that as opposed to competing at these camps. They’re doing him a disservice. It won’t make him better and it won’t build respect amongst his peers but whatever. Not our problem.
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Hes been camping and breaking down film since he could walk. He doesn’t need to play the camp political circuit and that’s exactly what it is.
 
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RVACane said:
He’s the only top QB that doesn’t camp.
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He’s been camping since he could walk. Ever hear of the Manning camp? He’s been breaking down film and learning the position at the highest level his entire life. Why does it matter that he doesn’t hit the political camp circuit? Why would he even want to deal with that hassle? He’s a legit rock star anywhere he goes. Security and just the aggravation would be stupid .

That cat lives and breathes football and it’s a religion to that family. It really comes off as people just hating at this point. It‘s so silly I heard somebody on a zoom call say Emory Williams is a better prospect than Arch lol. And based it off how Arches passes look smh. I was like number one you don’t believe that , number two did you ever see Peyton’s passes?

Like I said it’s just comes off as cliche for folks to hate on him.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Farrell looks like he's coming apart at the seams lately. Really disheveled- looking all the time and he sounds maybe even a little bitter.... I guess that's what happens when you become irrelevant...
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Bingo. The smug schtick gets old. Especially when your takes on from your living room and you’re sporting a baseball cap.
 
Cribby said:
He’s been camping since he could walk. Ever hear of the Manning camp? He’s been breaking down film and learning the position at the highest level his entire life. Why does it matter that he doesn’t hit the political camp circuit? Why would he even want to deal with that hassle? He’s a legit rock star anywhere he goes. Security and just the aggravation would be stupid .

That cat lives and breathes football and it’s a religion to that family. It really comes off as people just hating at this point. It‘s so silly I heard somebody on a zoom call say Emory Williams is a better prospect than Arch lol. And based it off how Arches passes look smh. I was like number one you don’t believe that , number two did you ever see Peyton’s passes?

Like I said it’s just comes off as cliche for folks to hate on him.
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He doesn’t suck, that’s actually hate for the sake of it. But I’m not rooting for him. I’d like him if he competed at camps regardless of his name - trying to go out there on his own merit. And it’s personal for me as it relates to how I’ve lived my own life regardless of name and familial relationships.
 
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