I must admit that the more I look at things and step away from my fandom, the more I realize how far away we are considering all of the factors. Listen folks, it took Butch Davis until his SIXTH season for us to finally get over the hump and not only see that we had the talent, but to also see it all come together record wise on the field. And that's taking into consideration the fact that Butch Davis had one of the best eyes for talent ever AND by the end of his first season, we knew what the sanctions were and could figure out how to deal with them accordingly to get past them. To expect Golden and company to do it quicker than Butch considering we are halfway into his second season and still don't know how hard we are going to get hit is a bit too much to ask IMO. I originally said 2015, but I'm thinking 2016 or 2017 now. Duke will be the new Edge imo. By the time he leaves, we will see that we are heading in the right direction, but he won't be around to truly enjoy the fruits of his labor.