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We almost had Brooks

GoldenShowers said:
Your post, I'm sorry to say, has more fail in it than any post I've ever read. I'm being serious too.

They had a capped limit. They knew, like anyone with a brain, that Edwards was going to go wherever Collins wasn't. It's why he waited till after the Collins commit. They shared one spot. They wouldn't need to worry about 2 spots bc they knew if Collins came here Edwards was off to FSU.

Another spot went to Stacey Coley. No matter what, they'd save a spot for him. It's called gambling. You take the risk of an empty slot when the payoff is a sure fire stud.

Thomas had a spot, but I think they knew he was a longshot, and so they also guaranteed a spot for Grace. They risked going over bc again the payoff was more valuable than the downside of having to ask some kid to grey shirt.

Bostwick had a spot and Bryant was out of the picture a while ago. Golden didn't even do an in home.

That's 4 or 5 spots. Already at their max.

Then you had Kirkland who had a spot saved until Feb 1. The reason for this is while they liked DK, he isn't a Coley or Thomas level kid. And so the gamble for him is NOT worth it. They couldn't justify in any way allowing him to hold a spot without being certain he would fill it.

Enter Terrell Brooks, a kid who they probably evaluated with equal importance to DK. And when the time came for DK to **** or get of the pot, he did neither and we APPROPRIATELY moved on.

That our staff even gave him a chance to commit on his own terms should be commended.
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I dont even feel like breaking down how ridiculous this entire post is...... i'm done w/ this thread.
 
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Here's the lesson in assigning values:

To Golden and staff, the prospect of a 90% sure commitment from a solid JUCO was of greater reward than a 50-50 chance at Kirkland.

So when Kirkland gave them 30% odds of getting a commitment, they chose the assigned higher value.

HOWEVER:

A sure fire JUCO commit was NOT a better bet compared to the 30% chance at Kirkland AND THE MASSIVE ****STORM WITH BTW, the media, and possibly other recruits.

The risks changed.

Be happy people, this shows our staff is extremely smart in their approach, despite losing out on some gambles from time to time like ALL coaches do.
 
zone3cane said:
GoldenShowers said:
Your post, I'm sorry to say, has more fail in it than any post I've ever read. I'm being serious too.

They had a capped limit. They knew, like anyone with a brain, that Edwards was going to go wherever Collins wasn't. It's why he waited till after the Collins commit. They shared one spot. They wouldn't need to worry about 2 spots bc they knew if Collins came here Edwards was off to FSU.

Another spot went to Stacey Coley. No matter what, they'd save a spot for him. It's called gambling. You take the risk of an empty slot when the payoff is a sure fire stud.

Thomas had a spot, but I think they knew he was a longshot, and so they also guaranteed a spot for Grace. They risked going over bc again the payoff was more valuable than the downside of having to ask some kid to grey shirt.

Bostwick had a spot and Bryant was out of the picture a while ago. Golden didn't even do an in home.

That's 4 or 5 spots. Already at their max.

Then you had Kirkland who had a spot saved until Feb 1. The reason for this is while they liked DK, he isn't a Coley or Thomas level kid. And so the gamble for him is NOT worth it. They couldn't justify in any way allowing him to hold a spot without being certain he would fill it.

Enter Terrell Brooks, a kid who they probably evaluated with equal importance to DK. And when the time came for DK to **** or get of the pot, he did neither and we APPROPRIATELY moved on.

That our staff even gave him a chance to commit on his own terms should be commended.
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I dont even feel like breaking down how ridiculous this entire post is...... i'm done w/ this thread.
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You aren't very familiar with the concepts of scholarship limits, and holding slots for certain kids but not others.

If you think Miami had 8 slots available on Jan 31, well, I just can't even begin to guide you.
 
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So you're telling me that the staff turned down a sure commitment from a player at a position of need to give a scholarship back to a player that they didn't really need because of a media outcry?

Yeah. That makes sense.
 
i didnt think much of Brooks so it dont bother me. I thought Bostwick had the most potential.
 
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AaronRodgersJewBeard said:
So you're telling me that the staff turned down a sure commitment from a player at a position of need to give a scholarship back to a player that they didn't really need because of a media outcry?

Yeah. That makes sense.
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Please for the love of Christ (or Moses in your case), read the post on assigning values. It's much more complicated than some black and white "see DT, get DT" issue.
 
You do realize Kirkland was not given papers to sign....even after Brooks committed to Baylor. So, this makes zero sense.
 
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theuksu said:
Brooks was average at best...we are better off waiting and bringing in studs '14
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This is wrong. Brooks is a Juco. He'd give us contribution next year, when those '14 kids are still in HS, and he'd give us important contribution the year after, when the '14 kids are true frosh, and Porter and L. Rob are gone. We really, really could have used a Juco DT this cycle.

If we lost this kid because of Harris, ****. If I were AG, I'd have taken the commitment and let Ice say what he was going to say, since you know he's going to say it anyhow (and did).
 
zone3cane said:
I dont know why you refer to them as "The Black Panther brigade" but you need to check yoself.

and you think b/c of the "fear of damaging community relations" Golden decided to re-offer Kirkland??? wow lol who is this troll??? Golden has already established himself in S. Florida w/ a lot of respectable ppl besides the BTW gang and Luke.

Making excuses for why Miami doesnt have Brooks is weak.... he didnt sign to Miami b/c he didnt want to come to Miami. If he did he would be in this class regardless of Kirkland... Matthew and Alex Collins didnt commit to Miami either so what are you talking about??

Brooks wasnt what Miami needed anyway.... we dont need anymore Darius Smiths.
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Aren't you a Seminole fan?
 
That sucks. I figured when he committed to Baylor that it meant we actually did get Bostwick or Bryant. Which, of course, made NSD an even bigger kick to the teeth because we didn't even get this JUCO guy.
 
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This is nonsense. If Miami could have gotten commit from juco DT and Kirkland, they would have taken both. Easily could have gained a spot through attrition. This will be proven when we sign another player or two before summer.
 
I don't understand the push back on this one. It's probably the only thing I've read that actually makes sense about how the DK thing went down. It explains why they'd pull his scholarship when he didn't honor his deadline. It explains the Brooks timing and situation. And it effectively explains why they backtracked and kept the DK offer open until NSD. Anyone who thinks this doesn't make sense is effectively saying Golden is truly an idiot, because if he didn't have a hard cap there would have been no reason whatsoever to pull DK's scholarship on 2/1. And if there was no reason to do that, and he does it anyhow, then he's clueless.
 
bacane said:
This is nonsense. If Miami could have gotten commit from juco DT and Kirkland, they would have taken both. Easily could have gained a spot through attrition. This will be proven when we sign another player or two before summer.
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So then why would UM have pulled DK's scholarship on 2/1, leading to a big **** storm, then backtracked? If you had space for both, what's the big deal?
 
NVA CANE said:
Yeah this theory is woat. Golden said they were 3 for 6 on NSD. Bostwick Bryant Thomas Coley Robinson Grace Edwards Kirkland. Thats two guys that didnt get an offer. 2 guys that Im sure golden knew werent gonna get an offer prior to wednesday. Whicg means brooks either didnt want to go to miami or he didnt have an offer.

Simple straight forward explanation
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You're missing the point. Brooks committed to Baylor a day before NSD. Nothing you wrote is inconsistent with the OP's post.
 
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