UTOUGH

[lauderdaleballer]

Too be honest, I think our guys are too heavy... RS players were faster because he emphasized speed whereas Golden wants size which compromised our speed... Our players are bigger but they are slower... I don't really see much in conditioning as well... I actually felt the conditioning was fine but our players are too heavy and slow...

that's bs. Golden said he wants guys bigger while keeping speed. Some of these guys that shannon has were inherited from coker. lamar, dorsett, didn't lose their speed. Guys like AJ, Rodgers, Gaines, Ty, etc just aren't great athletes and will never be fast.

great point
The guys golden inherited on defense were naturally slow. Now that he's upgrading the talent we should see a difference in speed.
But for anyone to say utough makes them slower has a clear agenda.

Quit with the agenda BS... I said they are becoming to heavy which as a result is making them slow... I think that's Golden preference... Too have bigger, stronger athletes... That being said, it also compromises their speed... Until I see otherwise that's my opinion... I mean we can have a read and react scheme but when UNC's TE is taking short drag routes for big gains then it's obviously a speed issue... The guy was getting yacs like Jerry Rice...

 

[77cane]

that's bs. Golden said he wants guys bigger while keeping speed. Some of these guys that shannon has were inherited from coker. lamar miller, dorsett, etc didn't lose their speed. Guys like AJ, Rodgers, Gaines, Ty, etc just aren't great athletes and will never be fast.

Well I'm just stating what I observed... Our defense has been slow... FAU wideouts was getting behind our secondary... Any team who got to the outside of our defense found success... We are slow on defense...

the secondary is not slow at all, to be honest the secondary kept us in some games, if there were FAU players getting behind our secondary (which i didnt see at all) it was because of the scheme or the players ****ing up in the zone coverage

if there is something slow it is guys reaction time, some guys just didnt see the play quick enough to react in time, and those were mainly our LBs

When UNC TE is running 5 yard drags for long tds the defense slow... FAU just didn't have a qb but their wideouts were behind us... You may not want to believe it but our secondary is slow... Too be fair outside of Bush and Burns they are pretty slow..

First off that is probably a first round TE
Second most of the time a LB is covering a TE, at least in our ****ty scheme
Third our players tackled each other and because of that ****ty scheme no one else was near the play
Fourth defenses are going to look slow when you have LBs and DEs cover receivers

Whats funny is I could almost guarantee you that 90 percent of those complaining about the scheme probably could not differentiate between one scheme or another.
The majority will hear someone make a complaint ( Wether true or not ) and start parroting it. The same has happened with Swasey, It seems the internet S & C experts know more about S & C than the former pro-bowl canes who come back here every year to work out.

 

[mirvin88]

Lol at fools saying UTough doesn't work....what teams overpowered us?? They might have out schemed us but overpowered nope.

Never mind every team setting season highs rushing against us last year

 

[cowboycane]

Too be honest, I think our guys are too heavy... RS players were faster because he emphasized speed whereas Golden wants size which compromised our speed... Our players are bigger but they are slower... I don't really see much in conditioning as well... I actually felt the conditioning was fine but our players are too heavy and slow...

that's bs. Golden said he wants guys bigger while keeping speed. Some of these guys that shannon has were inherited from coker. lamar, dorsett, didn't lose their speed. Guys like AJ, Rodgers, Gaines, Ty, etc just aren't great athletes and will never be fast.

great point
The guys golden inherited on defense were naturally slow. Now that he's upgrading the talent we should see a difference in speed.
But for anyone to say utough makes them slower has a clear agenda.

Quit with the agenda BS... I said they are becoming to heavy which as a result is making them slow... I think that's Golden preference... Too have bigger, stronger athletes... That being said, it also compromises their speed... Until I see otherwise that's my opinion... I mean we can have a read and react scheme but when UNC's TE is taking short drag routes for big gains then it's obviously a speed issue... The guy was getting yacs like Jerry Rice...

Almost all his YACs were because our scheme left GAPING holes all over the place. Speed isn't where it needs to be but it's not like we are 80s Nebraska or something.

 

[M3N]

Well I'm just stating what I observed... Our defense has been slow... FAU wideouts was getting behind our secondary... Any team who got to the outside of our defense found success... We are slow on defense...

the secondary is not slow at all, to be honest the secondary kept us in some games, if there were FAU players getting behind our secondary (which i didnt see at all) it was because of the scheme or the players ****ing up in the zone coverage

if there is something slow it is guys reaction time, some guys just didnt see the play quick enough to react in time, and those were mainly our LBs

When UNC TE is running 5 yard drags for long tds the defense slow... FAU just didn't have a qb but their wideouts were behind us... You may not want to believe it but our secondary is slow... Too be fair outside of Bush and Burns they are pretty slow..

First off that is probably a first round TE
Second most of the time a LB is covering a TE, at least in our ****ty scheme
Third our players tackled each other and because of that ****ty scheme no one else was near the play
Fourth defenses are going to look slow when you have LBs and DEs cover receivers

Whats funny is I could almost guarantee you that 90 percent of those complaining about the scheme probably could not differentiate between one scheme or another.
The majority will hear someone make a complaint ( Wether true or not ) and start parroting it. The same has happened with Swasey, It seems the internet S & C experts know more about S & C than the former pro-bowl canes who come back here every year to work out.

They come to train down here bc they have the strip and south beach... Our S&C has been lacking since Moffit left. Our players were small and weak under Coker, Shannon and now Golden. Swasey has been a liability for quite some time and those who can't see that are retarded. We get dominated the last 4 games of every year it seems. Also the nutritional/supplement program for our players is a complete joke! You would think by now that some of the donors money would go towards helping the football team.

 

[77cane]

the secondary is not slow at all, to be honest the secondary kept us in some games, if there were FAU players getting behind our secondary (which i didnt see at all) it was because of the scheme or the players ****ing up in the zone coverage

if there is something slow it is guys reaction time, some guys just didnt see the play quick enough to react in time, and those were mainly our LBs

When UNC TE is running 5 yard drags for long tds the defense slow... FAU just didn't have a qb but their wideouts were behind us... You may not want to believe it but our secondary is slow... Too be fair outside of Bush and Burns they are pretty slow..

First off that is probably a first round TE
Second most of the time a LB is covering a TE, at least in our ****ty scheme
Third our players tackled each other and because of that ****ty scheme no one else was near the play
Fourth defenses are going to look slow when you have LBs and DEs cover receivers

Whats funny is I could almost guarantee you that 90 percent of those complaining about the scheme probably could not differentiate between one scheme or another.
The majority will hear someone make a complaint ( Wether true or not ) and start parroting it. The same has happened with Swasey, It seems the internet S & C experts know more about S & C than the former pro-bowl canes who come back here every year to work out.

They come to train down here bc they have the strip and south beach... Our S&C has been lacking since Moffit left. Our players were small and weak under Coker, Shannon and now Golden. Swasey has been a liability for quite some time and those who can't see that are retarded. We get dominated the last 4 games of every year it seems. Also the nutritional/supplement program for our players is a complete joke! You would think by now that some of the donors money would go towards helping the football team.

You are right on the nutrition program, PoP Tarts just aren't going to do it. Swasey though for good or bad does what the head coach tells him to do Not all players are self motivated, I would say more aren't than are, therefore the head coach has to lay down rules to ensure they're actually doing the S&C. The player have been getting much bigger and stronger under Golden.

 

[valentinfernandez]

I agree!!
But what about DONOFRIO? ?

 

[M3N]

Some of you fellas should quiz up on your Swasey knowledge. Buddy is a sociology teacher not a SC coach.

http://m.hurricanesports.com/mobile...8182&DB_MENU_ID=&SPSID=&SPID=&DB_OEM_ID=28700

He was an assistant under Moffit for just one year! Likely he didn't retain much from Moffit. The players who dominated for our 2001 2002 team recieved most of their training from Moffit. 2002/ 2003 started the decline. It starts with Swasey. The 2nd most important coach is the S&C coach. He is with the players almost 247. The guy is a liability.

 

[rickay]

bump

 

[nystateofmind]

Yawn.

Same people blasting me for criticizing Richt's recruiting were the one defending Golden in this thread.