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Nobody cares about bowl games anymore. Players opt-out. The bowl games are after early signing day. We should win more, but winning ****** bowl games doesn't affect recruiting. I doubt Singletary is making his decision based on a 3 point loss in the cheeze-it bowl.OMG I just realized how bad it's been.
December 30, 2005 Peach Bowl L Louisiana State 3 40 December 31, 2006 MPC Computers Bowl W Nevada 21 20 December 27, 2008 Emerald Bowl L California 17 24 December 29, 2009 Champs Sports Bowl L Wisconsin 14 20 December 31, 2010 Sun Bowl L Notre Dame 17 33 December 28, 2013 Russell Athletic Bowl L Louisville 9 36 December 27, 2014 Independence Bowl L South Carolina 21 24 December 26, 2015 Sun Bowl L Washington State 14 20 December 28, 2016 Russell Athletic Bowl W West Virginia 31 14 December 30, 2017 Orange Bowl L Wisconsin 24 34 December 27, 2018 Pinstripe Bowl L Wisconsin 3 35 December 26, 2019 Independence Bowl L Louisiana Tech 0 14 December 29, 2020 Cheez-It Bowl L Oklahoma State 34 37
The ncaa is giving zero fcks right now. ASU is the scapegoat now and only cause some dude was so upset that he decided to play Magnum PI and sht.Depends on what you mean by "win again."
Miami will never return to the glory years. Too many Cane fans think all we need is a "great coach" like Saban or Sweeney or whoever and everything will just fall into place. They aint living in the present, they're stuck on history.
The entire landscape has changed. One coach, i dont care if he's the second coming of Lombardi, aint gonna make a dimes worth of difference. Maybe Lombardi would get us to top 20 status every year but aint no coach in existence gonna get us to perennial national title contender status. UNLESS the program has the "resources" to compete at the highest level, has the willingness and patience to invest those "resources" into the football program including the requisite handlers, family advisors, foundations, churches and the rest of the infrastructure you need, and most importantly is ALLOWED to play by the same rules as the good ol boys.
This program was once threatened with the death penalty because of a Ponzi scheming weirdo who treated the guys to free steak dinners and yachts and whatever. Meanwhile, Bama, Clemson, OSU etc are allowed to literally spend MILLIONS each year paying six figures to the top recruits and no one does **** about it.
We are Virginia Tech right now, we will contend occasionally when we have the right mixture of luck/depth/QB.
totally agreeWe went 6-7 after Manny had been here for the previous 3 years as DC, that’s not on Richt and yes I would have been nervous about Dabo but he is an outlier plain and simple. Maybe Manny is as well, numbers say that is unlikely. Would love to be wrong, I just want our program to win again…
This. One game doesn’t matter.I see that **** here all the time. Kids that choose fsu then we bully them they think kids won't go there. Recruiting always depends on the recruiters u have on staff. That's it period
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Sweet spot of the bat..... meet hanging curve ball.Weird comment, imo. I totally disagree with the ‘times have changed’ explanation. Before Howard, the program was irrelevant nationally. One Howard changed that. One Jimmy built it up. One Dennis won a couple titles. One Butch rebuilt it. What thry had in common is that despite some flaws in them, they were fantastic football coaches, all became NFL coaches, and Jimmy and Butch were probably the two best talent evaluators of their generation.
We follow that up with five straight coaches who were terrible hires, not good, not ready, not committed, not prepared, or some mix of all that.
There is ZERO reason to think a legit top cfb coach couldn’t make Miami a legit top cfb team. Not saying dominate like the ‘80s, but nationally relevant. If you hire a clown to fix your HVAC system, don’t act surprised that it never seems to work. If you do it over snd over, don’t convince yourself that no one can fix the system because ‘systems have changed.’ CFB is competitive and if you don’t have a really good coach and program, you won’t win. But that’s essentially always been true.
Its supposed to be about the recruitment of 5 star CB Jaheim Singletary who just recently decommited from Ohio State. The really exciting thing about this is that Singletary had been unofficially visiting UM during the past month and keeping quiet about it. Singletary came to the pool party we had on 7/31 then decommited from OSU right afterwards if Im not mistaken. Word is that it is now between UM and Georgia.Hold up, what is this thread about?
Saban's last class wasn't no joke....it helped Howard immensely...Weird comment, imo. I totally disagree with the ‘times have changed’ explanation. Before Howard, the program was irrelevant nationally. One Howard changed that. One Jimmy built it up. One Dennis won a couple titles. One Butch rebuilt it. What thry had in common is that despite some flaws in them, they were fantastic football coaches, all became NFL coaches, and Jimmy and Butch were probably the two best talent evaluators of their generation.
We follow that up with five straight coaches who were terrible hires, not good, not ready, not committed, not prepared, or some mix of all that.
There is ZERO reason to think a legit top cfb coach couldn’t make Miami a legit top cfb team. Not saying dominate like the ‘80s, but nationally relevant. If you hire a clown to fix your HVAC system, don’t act surprised that it never seems to work. If you do it over snd over, don’t convince yourself that no one can fix the system because ‘systems have changed.’ CFB is competitive and if you don’t have a really good coach and program, you won’t win. But that’s essentially always been true.
Jaheim is the best CB to come out of my area in a long time. In my opinion he’s more aggressive than Fred Davis and more technically sound than Shaun Wade. Best CB prospect from Jax since Tony Carter from what I can remember. I love this kids game and mentality, he’s a Duval mentality kid through and through.
Even Larry Coker won a Natty with elite Talent, all Manny needs to do is bring in good coordinators and recruit, recruit, recruit. Then we are good for 10 wins a season minimum.We went 6-7 after Manny had been here for the previous 3 years as DC, that’s not on Richt and yes I would have been nervous about Dabo but he is an outlier plain and simple. Maybe Manny is as well, numbers say that is unlikely. Would love to be wrong, I just want our program to win again…
Not that grim at all. But also the hurdles are real. In pre NIL days, players were (rumored) to be getting 250K to go to the Big 12. One can only imagine what the SEC offers.Depends on what you mean by "win again."
Miami will never return to the glory years. Too many Cane fans think all we need is a "great coach" like Saban or Sweeney or whoever and everything will just fall into place. They aint living in the present, they're stuck on history.
The entire landscape has changed. One coach, i dont care if he's the second coming of Lombardi, aint gonna make a dimes worth of difference. Maybe Lombardi would get us to top 20 status every year but aint no coach in existence gonna get us to perennial national title contender status. UNLESS the program has the "resources" to compete at the highest level, has the willingness and patience to invest those "resources" into the football program including the requisite handlers, family advisors, foundations, churches and the rest of the infrastructure you need, and most importantly is ALLOWED to play by the same rules as the good ol boys.
This program was once threatened with the death penalty because of a Ponzi scheming weirdo who treated the guys to free steak dinners and yachts and whatever. Meanwhile, Bama, Clemson, OSU etc are allowed to literally spend MILLIONS each year paying six figures to the top recruits and no one does **** about it.
We are Virginia Tech right now, we will contend occasionally when we have the right mixture of luck/depth/QB.
I’d love to do a correlation between our blue chip signees and athletic department improvements and new construction. When was the new athletic center opened?The ncaa is giving zero fcks right now. ASU is the scapegoat now and only cause some dude was so upset that he decided to play Magnum PI and sht.
Miami has been landing players and sending players to the draft. We’ve struggled with depth, scheme and coaching and culture.
Look what quality coaching and smart recruiting can do at a position.
We really don’t need a bag network as much as we (I) have alluded to.
We needed good players and good facilities and coaching.
Having a 5 star come visit in the past and having him see a squad of players no where as talented as the other schools he’s visited and then seeing our dorms and facilities a **** no brainer.
Our new facilities and dorms have done wonders. Add on some quality coaching and it’s been a game changer. We get w’s and it’s a wrap.
Well said. Agreed on all of that.There is ZERO reason to think a legit top cfb coach couldn’t make Miami a legit top cfb team. Not saying dominate like the ‘80s, but nationally relevant.
I’ve been sayin this since coker. fans think Um’s greatness was all players. It’s led to the view that anyone can coach this team. It’s completely wrong. We were blessed with some amazing coaches. Jimmy is one of the best ever. Howard built it, was a legend and if he never leaves Miami he’s Saban imo. Dennis was one of the inventors of the modern spread, brilliant football guy who got hired twice in the nfl, and still crashed the ship because he was a lazy drunk who didn’t evaluate well enough as a recruiter. Butch was perhaps the best talent evaluator ever. Since then we’ve had nothing. No great talent evaluation, no truly innovative schemes, no great leadership. Just scarecrows the admin can hire to fill the seat and pretend like they fit in.Well said. Agreed on all of that.
Sidenote: Corch Irvin Meyas would have us in the playoffs by year two.
This is 100% correct.I’ve been sayin this since coker. fans think Um’s greatness was all players. It’s led to the view that anyone can coach this team. It’s completely wrong. We were blessed with some amazing coaches. Jimmy is one of the best ever. Howard built it, was a legend and if he never leaves Miami he’s Saban imo. Dennis was one of the inventors of the modern spread, brilliant football guy who got hired twice in the nfl, and still crashed the ship because he was a lazy drunk who didn’t evaluate well enough as a recruiter. Butch was perhaps the best talent evaluator ever. Since then we’ve had nothing. No great talent evaluation, no truly innovative schemes, no great leadership. Just scarecrows the admin can hire to fill the seat and pretend like they fit in.
please.. all you gotta do is look at 2017 to see how wrong you are. We had more hype than anybody until we didn't.. and that was with Rosier as quarterback. The right players and the right coaches and the stars are the limit.Depends on what you mean by "win again."
Miami will never return to the glory years. Too many Cane fans think all we need is a "great coach" like Saban or Sweeney or whoever and everything will just fall into place. They aint living in the present, they're stuck on history.
The entire landscape has changed. One coach, i dont care if he's the second coming of Lombardi, aint gonna make a dimes worth of difference. Maybe Lombardi would get us to top 20 status every year but aint no coach in existence gonna get us to perennial national title contender status. UNLESS the program has the "resources" to compete at the highest level, has the willingness and patience to invest those "resources" into the football program including the requisite handlers, family advisors, foundations, churches and the rest of the infrastructure you need, and most importantly is ALLOWED to play by the same rules as the good ol boys.
This program was once threatened with the death penalty because of a Ponzi scheming weirdo who treated the guys to free steak dinners and yachts and whatever. Meanwhile, Bama, Clemson, OSU etc are allowed to literally spend MILLIONS each year paying six figures to the top recruits and no one does **** about it.
We are Virginia Tech right now, we will contend occasionally when we have the right mixture of luck/depth/QB.