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UM linebackers that arrived on campus around 200 lbs or less...

gogeta4 said:
Perryman his junior year spring at Miami was 253pds. He literally told me it after the spring game. His listed weight may have been small on his profile but i have to think he came into UM near 220.
Grace had a nice frame..but Grace though slight always brought the hammer.
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As did Sean Spence, who was a monster for his size. Shame Grace didn't get a shot at his senior season. He would have been a stud in Diaz's scheme.
 

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I didn’t play against Beason, but I did play with him when he was a freshmen on ea sports NCAA and I remember his listed weight being over 200 lbs and everyone knows those rosters were 100% accurate!
 
Combo said:
I agree with the OP. And this holds whether they are MLBs or OLBs.

That said, I don't think this precludes a bigger guy from playing LB here (e.g. Rian Davis). The important thing is that they have the ability to read and react.
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Watch your language! :mad::mad:
 
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stb said:
Looking at old rosters the 2001 roster had unreal talent that also in many cases became NFLers, Pro Bowlers and some will become Hall of Famers

2001 Football Rosters - University of Miami
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Beason is the only recruit within 15 years of now, and OP is wrong about him on that list.

We shouldn't be talking about recruiting the same size players as the 80's. Athletes as a whole have been getting bigger, stronger and faster over time for ever. The list of kids that aren't going to get destroyed by a lineman with 75 pounds on him or a tight end with 50 pounds on him, **** even a running back with 25 pounds on him is going to be short, and linebackers cannot only be recruited for an ability to move and cover.

If you are outside the prototypical size parameters you had better be among the best in the country at linebacker skills, track speed fast, or both. I am not saying any of our current linebacker commits are or aren't that, but it is something that needs to be considered and more deeply than just with a few names as examples from before these kids were born.
 
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5XNC said:
I don’t recall Smith, barrow, armstead or beason all being under 200. I think you’re off.
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I said around 200. Amstead in particular I remember being listed at 203 coming out of high school. Barrow was a little bigger, but I don't think Smith was. Beason was bigger than all 3 even though he didn't play LB until college.
 
Perryman as freshman 208-210

"That’s good for UM, because Perryman’s sideline-to-sideline athleticism and beefed-up frame (listed at 6-foot and 242 pounds) make him an ideal defensive keystone."

"“He’s so big now,” UM coach Al Golden said. “It used to be we’d put him at Will when he was 208, 210 pounds to protect him, because that’s where the three-technique [tackle] is. Now he can do it all because he’s 242 now. He’s actually a guy who we’re saying, ‘Enough’s enough, stay at 242.’ [note: Perryman said Monday he’s actually 245. He looks it. Without pads on, Perryman’s core muscles make him look like he’s wearing a flak jacket.]"

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I understand everybody wants speed and that's what makes Miami defenses so great but you can't just say "***** size" and have a bunch of cornerbacks lined up as linebackers. I know Manny has been experimenting with the "striker" position and I believe you need guys like that in today's college football but you're going to struggle if your inside guys only weigh 205. Your Mike is still going to have to take on fullbacks and H-backs and he'll get bulldozed. Especially if you don't have two space eaters at DT playing in front of him (we don't). I think the guys we have now have a nice blend of quickness and bulk. You'd ideally like your inside guy to be in the 235-245 range and your traditional OLB to be around 220 or so. Unless they're really short.

People love to bring up the "Ray Lewis was only 215 at Miami" point but that was literally 25 years ago. Interior linemen were significantly smaller then too.
 
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First of all some of those guys came and stayed undersized. Twan Russel was just a too small LB.

Others were already 200 plus. I remember Armstead being the smallest of the Bermuda Triangle when recruited and he was at 200.

Ray Lewis dropped weight for wrestling his Senior year but his true size was around 215.

Op is also forgeting that weight and frame are two seperate things. Guys like Glenn Cook can't effectively put on weight.

Thats why I like Huff over the other STA guys. Huff has the frame to add weight and not lose athleticism.
 
Mico Jones said:
First of all some of those guys came and stayed undersized. Twan Russel was just a too small LB.

Others were already 200 plus. I remember Armstead being the smallest of the Bermuda Triangle when recruited and he was at 200.

Ray Lewis dropped weight for wrestling his Senior year but his true size was around 215.

Op is also forgeting that weight and frame are two seperate things. Guys like Glenn Cook can't effectively put on weight.

Thats why I like Huff over the other STA guys. Huff has the frame to add weight and not lose athleticism.
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Twan Russell was 190 at best coming in after winning a state title in the 300 meter hurdles and excelling in the triple jump. He got up to 230 and played 7 years in the NFL.

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Dan Morgan couldn't have weighed over 185lbs when he was a freshman. It's amazing how much kids can grow from 18-20. Most important thing to look at is frame and room to gain good weight.
 
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