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Hold My Beer said:
Is there a College Football program with a wider disparity between its typical student and its typical fan than the University of Miami? Even a large number of "subway alumni" are Catholic and thus gravitate toward Notre Dame

Georgetown basketball in John Thompson's heyday might be the most similar to UM's situation
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USCw football is incredibly similar on many levels.
 
Brains said:
Alum.

The federal student loan program must be abolished. It's at the root of this nonsense. Faculty can keep voting themselves raises and know they'll get paid first. Schools can keep open ridiculous, frivolous departments.

End it. End it now.

In my case, college and grad school worked out. For most it's a waste.
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Not every loan program is bad. It’s mostly non federal backed ones that are the scam and predatory and those are not the ones target Miami type students but **** “education” type places. Fed loans are capped as well.

Regardless these prices are insane though I’m guessing the on campus going this much is because of the new dorms and luxuries built in by competing and demand for students and their expectations but either way I still find the prices disgusting overall, as an alum as I previously mentioned.

Just want the arguments to be accurate even if many of agree it’s vile and should change.
 
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407cane said:
never said that student loans started 20 years ago, I know it's been going since the 60's like the video I posted clearly outlines.


is the federal reserve bat****-crazy (and fake) for posting statistics like north of 40% of college grads don't use their degree?

are any of these stats crazy? or made-up? I'm confused why in every thread when you're not the most knowledgeable about something being discussed you immediately go to name-calling and trying to sound like you're an expert on everything.


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I'm backtracking by highlighting that IF someone picks the right degree and goes to a cheaper public school that it can sometimes work out with a reasonable ROI? and I'M CRAZY for saying that buying a degree at a school that charges 5x more is absurd? and IM crazy for being mad as a taxpayer that the government has enabled student loan companies to reach record profits while ripping off our youth and in turn enabled colleges to price hike at insane levels all while the government has been burdened by billions of guaranteed debt?

when was the last time you asked your doctor what school he/she went to before they saw you? when was the last time you asked an engineer what school he/she went to before they oversaw a job? when's the last time someone on here asked a lawyer what school they went to before they hired them?

here's a hint *it doesn't ******* matter*

If that makes you feel better about $97,000 tuition and gives you the false notion that I'm backtracking or changing my tune then go ahead.

you haven't (and you can't) debunk any of what I've posted. They are a business and people are buying it so good for them, but it doesn't mean that the system isn't predatory



this isn't solely on miami, I love Miami. This is directed at the thousands of price-hiking colleges in America, and mainly the government for creating a system that enabled it.

not an ounce of class-warfare in anything I said, despite your best efforts


have a good one
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Im not reading all that **** but the idea that just because, as an example, a history major didn’t “use their degree” means college degrees are therefore a waste is one of the dumbest inferred things I’ve ever read here. I get your overall point but **** like that diminishes any viable parts of what you are saying. A good broad education is more than issuing your “major”.
 
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Hold My Beer said:
Not an SC fan (or hater) by any means, but it would be live as all get-out for CFB if Canes and Trojans were full-speed rolling at the same time
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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
and played each other on occasion.
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Not that it matters, it's still absurd, but Miami is less than Tulane, Vandy, Northwestern, SMU, Stanford, etc., though they're all very similar. And, again, not that it makes it better, but actual tuition is $62K at UM. That number includes room and board, books, etc.
 
OrangeSlidez said:
UM offers insane financial aid packages. After aid, attendance was cheaper than going to my in-state options.
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They only offered my daughter $2500. And, I'm by no means well off financially to afford the balance. My 529 plan only would have paid 2yrs at UM, at 2021 tuition rates. She'll get her MBA from UCF in August and already has a job offer at another premier ACC school, so that state school degree(s) paid off just fine.
 
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Paid off my Masters from there. Crazy how have the books and all the buildings I was in were from before I was born.

What am I paying for exactly?
 
I'm a big believer in higher education. But this is just absolutely ridiculous. It's a big reason why half the parents in the US no longer see the value in going to college. Which is tragic since getting a 4-year degree is highly correlated with ensuring longer term wealth and quality of life.

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Hold My Beer said:
Is there a College Football program with a wider disparity between its typical student and its typical fan than the University of Miami? Even a large number of "subway alumni" are Catholic and thus gravitate toward Notre Dame

Georgetown basketball in John Thompson's heyday might be the most similar to UM's situation
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Southern Cal.

Very similar school to The U. Urban Private School in a state with a ton of good in-state schools. Private School Kidz. Good D1 athletics. Country Club Urban Campus.

While USC has a small cities worth of tent villages around it...Miami has 5-star football players that go to the NFL around it.

Levels 2 This.

Both are 100K institutions at this point. Private School Kidz Daycare for many...but The U offers a lot of good financial packages to get broke *** bums from poverty like myself to go as well. USC does, too.
 
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JD08 said:
Tuition is now $2530 per credit hour. It was $500 in 1990. Compare that to a state school where the tuition is $105 per credit hour.

For 99% of graduates, the school and GPA matter most when getting that first job. After that, it's just a checkbox and experience is what gets you the interview.

I agree with @passitback, ROI should be the driving factor.
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if we were an ivy or Stanford duke nw Chicago then sure
 
swat1 said:
They only offered my daughter $2500. And, I'm by no means well off financially to afford the balance. My 529 plan only would have paid 2yrs at UM, at 2021 tuition rates. She'll get her MBA from UCF in August and already has a job offer at another premier ACC school, so that state school degree(s) paid off just fine.
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For sure nothing wrong with state schools & congrats to her on the MBA. I just like to put it out there if it’s a dream school for anyone or their kid(s). The cost of attendance is definitely a shock and can dissuade kids from even applying. My coral grant was like 58k, which left me with 7k or so out of pocket at the time. Half of what schools in the northeast charge for in-state
 
TitansHope said:
absolutely nuts. it was around half that when i attended ~10 years ago, and that was still a ridiculous amount of money that i would not have come close to affording had i not been on scholarship.
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Same. I graduated in 18'. My last year at UM, tuition was around 57k per year. I was on scholarship but still needed loans to cover the rest. This is insane. How do you attract the best students/educational talent when you're pricing a majority of them out?

Taking out 100k+ for students loans for a bachelor's degree is sure fire way to end up in financial trouble. Unsustainable.
 
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