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Transfer Season 2018

Mark Little said:
Another uninformed clown. What a shocker.

So they recruited Mike Irvin from their own school?

Deluded and dumb?

What a catch you must be.
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I meant they recruited Mike to STA...from Piper.

You're talking so greasy though, like you're a gangster...little lady I'd slap you like the ***** you are.

Save all that woofing before you get exposed.
 

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Mark Little said:
This is such a stupid claim that I can't believe it's gone this long without being corrected.

Every player at every private school was supposed to attend other high schools since every kid presumably grew up in a neighborhood that was zoned for a public high school.

I can't believe this kind of stupidity exists today.

Embarrassing.
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They recruited them...STA wasn't built on the likes of which you claim loser
 
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Mark Little said:
This is really silly.

They fought the legislation for years and were successful at heading it off. But a State Senator from Lakeland made it her life's work to pass this law. The FHSAA is statutorily obligated to follow the law.
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Silly how?

They failed. They weren’t successful at all.

All you’re saying is this: they tried and failed. That’s not good enough. They should be beating the drums on this and they don’t.

So fūck them, they failed at the most important issue ever to come across for them. They suck.

And now they sit there twiddling their bureaucratic thumbs.
 
Below is their own mission statement.

They are an abject failure based on their own published mission statement.

It’s on them that this nonsense is going on.

Highlighted are the areas of specific abject failure.

Their advisory committees are where making policy should be discussed and advocating about actual change should be taking traction. But they’re nothing more than just bureaucratic time wasters. Yes I put it all on them.

Highlights/boldface and underlining is added by me.

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Mission Statement: In supporting and promoting The Florida High School Athletic Association, Inc., the Athletic Services Department preserves the trust and respect of its member schools by providing a level competitive playing opportunity for all student-athletes within the state series by promoting sportsmanship, striving for excellence, and competing with integrity.

Department Responsibilities

  • Sports assignments
  • Reclassifications
  • Sport specific questions, i.e. rule interpretations
  • Sportsmanship enforcement
  • Game ejections
  • Ejections and appeals
  • State series events
  • State series pass processing
  • Sanctioning
  • District meetings
  • Advisory committees – sport specific/Athletic Directors/Sports Medicine/Officials
  • Officials Programs
  • Commitment forms/add/drop
 
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Tee3000 said:
I don’t get the gripes. Transfers in south Florida have been going on since before I was in high school & I graduated in 99.

All of the same schools today getting transfers have always been getting transfers since I was in high school.

Some coaches got it..some don’t.
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It was nowhere near this rampant.
 
Tee3000 said:
I feel you but I'm all for kids transferring if they're zoned to a **** program with trash coaches bc it's too many trash coaches in this profession.

Just bc I live in a district...my son isn't going to be coached by some art teacher just bc he passed the background check to coach high school ball.
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Agree.

But some of these kids are leaving winning programs (and then publicly thanking their coaches via social media lol).

That didn't happen back in the days. Kids transferred because their programs were trash.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
It would be happening where you live if you had the population density, and concentration, that makes so many big schools relatively close to each other and thereby convenient from a transportation/distance perspective. All the big schools in SFL, Dade/Broward/Palm Beach - it’s not a logistical/travel stretch to switch from one to the other.

At the end of the day it’s the FHSAA that allows this shlt to happen. Pure and simple.

And it’s created a huge diva mentality in south Florida because it’s so easy to pop from one schocolate to the next, and then you have the sleaze bag adults encouraging the behavior.

If you have the right conditions, a bunch of big time schools, relatively close together, and a large enough population where there’s hundreds and hundreds of elite athletes, like South Florida, and zero regulatory control (FHSAA) then it creates the environment for that to happen. The sleaze bag adults will take advantage...parents, too. Then of course, you create a culture of divas.

Doesn’t happen in other areas as much because what other area have the concentration of high population, in a smallish area, with thousands of good/elite athletes where it’s feasible to move around due to cleseness of schools. None like south Florida.

It’s not that you have more virtuous people, they just don’t have the same environment that makes it feasible.
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I don't disagree with you...

However, it doesn't happen here because it's not the culture. We don't have the (adult) leaches that South FLA has. The kids here don't participate in off-season 7-on-7 teams, where these leaches "coach". (part of the reason why they're not as skilled as South FLA kids as well)

Our schools are actually very close to each other. A commute to any school in Bradenton would be relatively short and easy. Much shorter than a West Davie kid driving to Carol City or Saint Thomas. Much shorter than a Lauderhill kid driving to Western High.
 
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Coach Macho said:
I don't disagree with you...

However, it doesn't happen here because it's not the culture. We don't have the (adult) leaches that South FLA has. The kid here don't participate in off-season 7-on-7 teams, where these leaches "coach". (part of the reason why they're not as skilled as South FLA kids as well)

Our schools are actually very close to each other. A commute to any school in Bradenton would be relatively short and easy. Much shorter than a West Davie kid driving to Carol City or Saint Thomas. Much shorter than a Lauderhill kid driving to Western High.
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Sad to say brah but these kids are transferring just to have that post on twitter/instagram thanking their coached, neighbor, corner store attendant while transferring from their school...to (list hot team or sta) win states. I dont really get it but hey.....less than blaming them i blam the thousands of people that jump on the post after stating " get that bag"..."100"..or whatever else dumb cliche. Grown *** men telling them that too. I graduated in early 2000s and could have transferred name that school Pace or Chaminade. Pace i had a lot of friends there (Willie, Ponder, Turnbull,etc) Chaminade was basically our jv then. I chose to stay at Mca with my friends from my neighborhood or kids i played with since 9th grade.

Now with the floodgates open their are guys leaving playoff teams to go to other teams...just cuz.
 
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gogeta4 said:
Sad to say brah but these kids are transferring just to have that post on twitter/instagram thanking their coached, neighbor, corner store attendant while transferring from their school...to (list hot team or sta) win states. I dont really get it but hey.....less than blaming them i blam the thousands of people that jump on the post after stating " get that bag"..."100"..or whatever else dumb cliche. Grown *** men telling them that too. I graduated in early 2000s and could have transferred name that school Pace or Chaminade. Pace i had a lot of friends there (Willie, Ponder, Turnbull,etc) Chaminade was basically our jv then. I chose to stay at Mca with my friends from my neighborhood or kids i played with since 9th grade.

Now with the floodgates open their are guys leaving playoff teams to go to other teams...just cuz.
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Exactly.
Which is my main gripe.

Makes it really hard to build something. Winning used to stop kids from leaving. That is no longer the case, not with this attention fueled generation.
And the main ones who get hurt are the public school programs.
It allows zero parody in high school football. It reminds me of the watered-down NBA.

It is what it is.
Get with it, or get left.
As the old saying goes..."Speed on or get peed on."

Just gotta get with the times. Treat this **** like it's the NFL. Every year you're going to lose kids to "free agency".

If you're getting a Head Coach position, make sure you hire an ace recruiter.
 
Coach Macho said:
I don't disagree with you...

However, it doesn't happen here because it's not the culture. We don't have the (adult) leaches that South FLA has. The kids here don't participate in off-season 7-on-7 teams, where these leaches "coach". (part of the reason why they're not as skilled as South FLA kids as well)

Our schools are actually very close to each other. A commute to any school in Bradenton would be relatively short and easy. Much shorter than a West Davie kid driving to Carol City or Saint Thomas. Much shorter than a Lauderhill kid driving to Western High.
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I didn’t mention the 7 on 7, which yes is a big factor. So I agree with that.

It’s all hypothetical because there’s no way for me to test my theory, but I did live in the Sarasota/Bradenton area for a couple years so I understand the distances involved, but even more so the population density.

My theory is this: bring those same kids and coaches up there, down here with our high population density, high density of big public schools and same 7 on 7 environment, and the same thing would happen.

I do honestly think that the geography and the population density plays a huge role in why it doesn’t happen up there.

No way for me to either prove or disprove that, because you just can’t run an experiment like that. But if I’ve learned anything in life it’s that human nature is human nature. And it really doesn’t change from town to town.

My beef at the end of the day, is that it is allowed to happen by regulating bodies in Florida. Nobody seems to care.
 
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Coach Macho said:
It was nowhere near this rampant.
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I believe it was..especially with Dillard, BA, & Plantation and STA but you could be right.

Shoot..Chaminade was good back then too & people were transferring to play with the McKine brothers.

I just think social media plays a part in us noticing more.
 
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Coach Macho said:
What in the entire f*ck is this corny nonsense? SMH

Yeah I'd like to thank my coaches as I stab them in the back.

Championships are built in a single off-season now. There's no more 3+ year program building process. Just go find you some coaches that hang around high school kids every week, doesn't matter if they can coach a lick, and you'll get enough transfers to win games.
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This is the same goofy mentality that has UM players hanging out and cheesing with that ****** Jobe while he makes the A sign. Most of these kids are completely clueless about loyalty and being in it together till the end.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
I didn’t mention the 7 on 7, which yes is a big factor. So I agree with that.

It’s all hypothetical because there’s no way for me to test my theory, but I did live in the Sarasota/Bradenton area for a couple years so I understand the distances involved, but even more so the population density.

My theory is this: bring those same kids and coaches up there, down here with our high population density, high density of big public schools and same 7 on 7 environment, and the same thing would happen.

I do honestly think that the geography and the population density plays a huge role in why it doesn’t happen up there.

No way for me to either prove or disprove that, because you just can’t run an experiment like that. But if I’ve learned anything in life it’s that human nature is human nature. And it really doesn’t change from town to town.

My beef at the end of the day, is that it is allowed to happen by regulating bodies in Florida. Nobody seems to care.
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You may be right. Like you said, no way for us to tell.

I just don't get that same leach vibe with most of the people up here.

Don't get me wrong, the kids gravitate to the winning programs (Braden River, Palmetto, Manatee, and lately us) but it's usually directly out of little league. (not after they've spent 2/3 years at another school)

Most of the recruiting in South FLA goes on at these "camps" and 7-on-7 events. Considering that we don't have that stuff over here, the only way for a coach to recruit a player from another school is through a mutual friend/acquaintance/etc...or the HC showing his face at optimist games.
 
Coach Macho said:
Funny you say this. Although I'm not down there anymore a few of my buddies are still at WHS, so I keep tabs on what's going on. (your boy Chop is out there)
They just lost a Freshman CB (who has offers) to Heritage last week.
Lost a 6'5" WR (with offers) to Piper.
However, they gained a QB and LB from Arch Bishop and WR's from BA and Ely. (and a handful more kids transferred in as well)
It's literally...like you said...a free for all down there.
Programs are losing kids and gaining kids at the same time. I guess it comes down to losing/gaining the right ones.
They lost a D1 Corner but gained a D1 Quarterback. I'd take that trade any day.
It's almost like the NFL free agent period now. It's silly.

And it really has nothing to do with winning either. You shouldn't lose anybody after having the best season in school history.
Has nothing to do with offers either.
Fact of the matter is, today's front-running generation simply can't turn down an offer from the "cool schools" like STA and AHS. It's about status with a lot of them. They wanna be able to say "I am going/transferring to Saint Thomas" on social media.

**** is crazy to me. It does NOT go down like that over here on the West coast. I think one of the major reasons is that we don't have that whole 7-on-7 culture over here. That culture is filled with leaches.
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What? The transfer culture is huge in LA and in Vegas at Bishop Gorman
 
Drewny1 said:
What? The transfer culture is huge in LA and in Vegas at Bishop Gorman
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Yeah I think the transferring is just as big or bigger in the LA/Orange County area. I’ve seen newspaper articles that track the major transfers over there.,
 
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