Top 2017 LB Recruits Nike Sparq Ratings

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Decided to stop reading and post. Being that we have an idea now which way we are looking to go for the LB position. I did a little research and found these stats for our top LB recruits. Please note that Wilder and Steed's numbers are from 2015 and Miller's is from 2016. The shuttles really caught my eye.

2016
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2015
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Another cool thing I think you could do if you have the recourses and time is to compare those ratings to those of the "top LB's" in the nation
 
Dylan Moses put up some sick numbers as an 9th grader but I couldn't find anything recent on him. This is kind of misleading on Browning because it was his freshman year also. One year earlier than Steed and Wilder's numbers. Benton's numbers don't show me top of the nation but I have to see his film also. I will keep adding as I find them.

2014
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At the risk of hating, I cannot stand the SPARQ scores because Nike tries to make it proprietary by having the goofy Powerball Throw instead of using bench press and then taking the calculator away from public consumption.

Reverse engineering tells you that the equation is a product of five multiplicative factors, but the weighting is difficult to ascertain. The reason is the true freaks of nature break the scale and it's difficult to determine exactly what weight they're giving to a player going from a 4.3 40 to 4.25 etc. We know the marginal gains for improvement grow as the result improves, but not to what extent. The flip side is that the return is much smaller at the lower end of the scale (the reasoning behind this is to prevent one bad score from ruining the entire output).

It's all unnecessary and overly complicated so that ESPN can claim access to an unnecessary set of metrics.

There's a reasonable conversion chart for the toss to bench press that makes this more intuitive. Just tell me the metrics that correlate to success at the college level for that individual position and then test for those areas and I'll get what I need much better than SPARQ.
 
At the risk of hating, I cannot stand the SPARQ scores because Nike tries to make it proprietary by having the goofy Powerball Throw instead of using bench press and then taking the calculator away from public consumption.

Reverse engineering tells you that the equation is a product of five multiplicative factors, but the weighting is difficult to ascertain. The reason is the true freaks of nature break the scale and it's difficult to determine exactly what weight they're giving to a player going from a 4.3 40 to 4.25 etc. We know the marginal gains for improvement grow as the result improves, but not to what extent. The flip side is that the return is much smaller at the lower end of the scale (the reasoning behind this is to prevent one bad score from ruining the entire output).

It's all unnecessary and overly complicated so that ESPN can claim access to an unnecessary set of metrics.

There's a reasonable conversion chart for the toss to bench press that makes this more intuitive. Just tell me the metrics that correlate to success at the college level for that individual position and then test for those areas and I'll get what I need much better than SPARQ.

someone get this man his numbers
 
At the risk of hating, I cannot stand the SPARQ scores because Nike tries to make it proprietary by having the goofy Powerball Throw instead of using bench press and then taking the calculator away from public consumption.

Reverse engineering tells you that the equation is a product of five multiplicative factors, but the weighting is difficult to ascertain. The reason is the true freaks of nature break the scale and it's difficult to determine exactly what weight they're giving to a player going from a 4.3 40 to 4.25 etc. We know the marginal gains for improvement grow as the result improves, but not to what extent. The flip side is that the return is much smaller at the lower end of the scale (the reasoning behind this is to prevent one bad score from ruining the entire output).

It's all unnecessary and overly complicated so that ESPN can claim access to an unnecessary set of metrics.

There's a reasonable conversion chart for the toss to bench press that makes this more intuitive. Just tell me the metrics that correlate to success at the college level for that individual position and then test for those areas and I'll get what I need much better than SPARQ.

I agree with you that's why I only look at the Weight, Height, 40, Shuttle, and Vertical, sometimes PB. The Sparq is a non-factor to me because I don't really understand how they come up with that number lol.
 
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At the risk of hating, I cannot stand the SPARQ scores because Nike tries to make it proprietary by having the goofy Powerball Throw instead of using bench press and then taking the calculator away from public consumption.

Reverse engineering tells you that the equation is a product of five multiplicative factors, but the weighting is difficult to ascertain. The reason is the true freaks of nature break the scale and it's difficult to determine exactly what weight they're giving to a player going from a 4.3 40 to 4.25 etc. We know the marginal gains for improvement grow as the result improves, but not to what extent. The flip side is that the return is much smaller at the lower end of the scale (the reasoning behind this is to prevent one bad score from ruining the entire output).

It's all unnecessary and overly complicated so that ESPN can claim access to an unnecessary set of metrics.

There's a reasonable conversion chart for the toss to bench press that makes this more intuitive. Just tell me the metrics that correlate to success at the college level for that individual position and then test for those areas and I'll get what I need much better than SPARQ.

The powerball throw mimics football movements far more than a bench press for whatever it's worth.
 
At the risk of hating, I cannot stand the SPARQ scores because Nike tries to make it proprietary by having the goofy Powerball Throw instead of using bench press and then taking the calculator away from public consumption.

Reverse engineering tells you that the equation is a product of five multiplicative factors, but the weighting is difficult to ascertain. The reason is the true freaks of nature break the scale and it's difficult to determine exactly what weight they're giving to a player going from a 4.3 40 to 4.25 etc. We know the marginal gains for improvement grow as the result improves, but not to what extent. The flip side is that the return is much smaller at the lower end of the scale (the reasoning behind this is to prevent one bad score from ruining the entire output).

It's all unnecessary and overly complicated so that ESPN can claim access to an unnecessary set of metrics.

There's a reasonable conversion chart for the toss to bench press that makes this more intuitive. Just tell me the metrics that correlate to success at the college level for that individual position and then test for those areas and I'll get what I need much better than SPARQ.

I agree with you that's why I only look at the Weight, Height, 40, Shuttle, and Vertical, sometimes PB. The Sparq is a non-factor to me because I don't really understand how they come up with that number lol.

Before any numbers at all are looked at- the film must say " this guy can play football" then you look at 40 times and strength stats to gauge potential.

If U.Bolt was listed as a WR and we saw his speed and strength numbers were off the chart, we'd all think the guy was the next Jerry Rice. But then we'd be pretty disappointed when we find out he cant catch a football.
 
At the risk of hating, I cannot stand the SPARQ scores because Nike tries to make it proprietary by having the goofy Powerball Throw instead of using bench press and then taking the calculator away from public consumption.

Reverse engineering tells you that the equation is a product of five multiplicative factors, but the weighting is difficult to ascertain. The reason is the true freaks of nature break the scale and it's difficult to determine exactly what weight they're giving to a player going from a 4.3 40 to 4.25 etc. We know the marginal gains for improvement grow as the result improves, but not to what extent. The flip side is that the return is much smaller at the lower end of the scale (the reasoning behind this is to prevent one bad score from ruining the entire output).

It's all unnecessary and overly complicated so that ESPN can claim access to an unnecessary set of metrics.

There's a reasonable conversion chart for the toss to bench press that makes this more intuitive. Just tell me the metrics that correlate to success at the college level for that individual position and then test for those areas and I'll get what I need much better than SPARQ.

I agree with you that's why I only look at the Weight, Height, 40, Shuttle, and Vertical, sometimes PB. The Sparq is a non-factor to me because I don't really understand how they come up with that number lol.

Before any numbers at all are looked at- the film must say " this guy can play football" then you look at 40 times and strength stats to gauge potential.

If U.Bolt was listed as a WR and we saw his speed and strength numbers were off the chart, we'd all think the guy was the next Jerry Rice. But then we'd be pretty disappointed when we find out he cant catch a football.

Lol!!!! 😂😂
Very True
 
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Dylan Moses put up some sick numbers as an 9th grader but I couldn't find anything recent on him. This is kind of misleading on Browning because it was his freshman year also. One year earlier than Steed and Wilder's numbers. Benton's numbers don't show me top of the nation but I have to see his film also. I will keep adding as I find them.

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2015
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I like Moses better as an RB

Can we get this guy off the bored for good ? Always saying crazy ****
 
At the risk of hating, I cannot stand the SPARQ scores because Nike tries to make it proprietary by having the goofy Powerball Throw instead of using bench press and then taking the calculator away from public consumption.

Reverse engineering tells you that the equation is a product of five multiplicative factors, but the weighting is difficult to ascertain. The reason is the true freaks of nature break the scale and it's difficult to determine exactly what weight they're giving to a player going from a 4.3 40 to 4.25 etc. We know the marginal gains for improvement grow as the result improves, but not to what extent. The flip side is that the return is much smaller at the lower end of the scale (the reasoning behind this is to prevent one bad score from ruining the entire output).

It's all unnecessary and overly complicated so that ESPN can claim access to an unnecessary set of metrics.

There's a reasonable conversion chart for the toss to bench press that makes this more intuitive. Just tell me the metrics that correlate to success at the college level for that individual position and then test for those areas and I'll get what I need much better than SPARQ.

I agree with you that's why I only look at the Weight, Height, 40, Shuttle, and Vertical, sometimes PB. The Sparq is a non-factor to me because I don't really understand how they come up with that number lol.

Before any numbers at all are looked at- the film must say " this guy can play football" then you look at 40 times and strength stats to gauge potential.

If U.Bolt was listed as a WR and we saw his speed and strength numbers were off the chart, we'd all think the guy was the next Jerry Rice. But then we'd be pretty disappointed when we find out he cant catch a football.

Yeah we did that once in college with a guy by the name of Mike Martin. He was one of the fastest guys I ever met in person and a track star but just didn't cut it on the football field.
 
In the hiring world we'd file that under KSA's. There are certain Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities you have to have to even be under consideration.

If you don't have them, you aren't talked about. I'd say the ability to catch a football would be there for WR, a certain amount of size/strength for OL, etc. etc.
 
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