Ayeplus
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Smh. No whats ignorant is you have no idea who I am and what I've become privy to as to what coaches may tell a recruit. You could have saved your 2 cents and just disagreed with the post. FOH.
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Smh. No whats ignorant is you have no idea who I am and what I've become privy to as to what coaches may tell a recruit. You could have saved your 2 cents and just disagreed with the post. FOH.
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Ayeplus,
I was going to say that each kid is different, but I see that someone has already pointed that out. They are not all stereotypical, cookie-cutter duplicates of each other. Considerations that might be central to the decisions of one kid could be peripheral or even irrelevant to another.
I was going to say that each kid is different, but I see that someone has already pointed that out. They are not all stereotypical, cookie-cutter duplicates of each other. Considerations that might be central to the decisions of one kid could be peripheral or even irrelevant to another.
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players are looking for PT not to sit on bench. What happens is recruiters tell these kids that they can play right away. The kids believe them and end up RS
rudebuddha
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This is obviously your own unfounded opinion which is not backed up by any research as most top recruits cite "early playing time," as a major incentive to a school.
Heck, many of these kids ala Lamar Miller, want to get paid and go the three and out route.
Marcus Lattimore is going pro after 3 years including the last year where he didn't play.
I'm pretty sure if Golden meets a recruit who is happy to be a bench warmer, then that player probably wouldn't be getting an offer or even a second look.
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First, if you're on this board posting the ignorant statement u just posted, I will assume you don't have a good feel on what you're talking about and don't know what the coaches are telling the kids...and naw I can say whatever I want...you know **** well you've never been recruited by a top school so unless you talk to the kids directly (in which they still wouldn't tell you specifics) you have no idea what they said. I called the statement ignorant not you, and I don't have to know who you are to know your statement is ignorant...unless that is in fact you're Keith Bryant, Alex Collins, & a D1 coach at the same time in which I apologize...Don't take a disagreement to a stupid statement as a personal attack, that's all I have to say
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Flies in the face of everything players have been saying since I've been following recruiting. If the OP is right things have definitely changed. Not buying it, or the subsequent "clarifications." Seems to me that most highly touted HS players tend to overestimate their abilities, fall prey to their media attention, and then struggle when faced with the realities of the speed and size of their college competition. A hand full of special players fit right in, but they still find they have a lot to learn. Those who fail to learn in college and make it to the NFL find out it means Not For Long if they don't have the fundamentals.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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̷A̷t̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷ ̷e̷n̷d̷ ̷o̷f̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷ ̷d̷a̷y̷,̷ ̷y̷o̷u̷ ̷r̷e̷a̷d̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷ ̷p̷o̷s̷t̷,̷ ̷t̷o̷o̷k̷ ̷i̷t̷ ̷a̷t̷ ̷f̷a̷c̷e̷ ̷v̷a̷l̷u̷e̷ ̷a̷n̷d̷ ̷i̷n̷t̷e̷r̷p̷r̷e̷t̷e̷d̷ ̷w̷h̷a̷t̷ ̷I̷ ̷s̷a̷i̷d̷ ̷i̷n̷ ̷y̷o̷u̷r̷ ̷o̷w̷n̷ ̷w̷a̷y̷.̷ ̷N̷o̷w̷ ̷y̷o̷u̷ ̷g̷e̷t̷ ̷t̷h̷i̷s̷ ̷t̷h̷r̷o̷u̷g̷h̷ ̷t̷h̷a̷t̷ ̷T̷o̷n̷k̷a̷ ̷T̷r̷u̷c̷k̷ ̷s̷i̷z̷e̷d̷ ̷h̷e̷a̷d̷ ̷o̷f̷ ̷y̷o̷u̷r̷s̷.̷ Yes, in general every kid would like early playing time, theres no debating that, but that is NOT QUITE THE DRIVING FORCE IT USED TO BE(in general). That is all I was trying to say. Now if you disagree with that, then thats fine. It ain't that serious.
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nbrewer22
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Disagree with what you said, because the reason kids go to Bama right now is not because they're scared of the spotlight, but because they wanna play on winning teams and play for national titles. They also feel like they can make immediate impacts as well.
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That goes without saying. Never said that they are SCARED of the spotlight. Many on this thread interpreted what I said the wrong way.
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I'll leave this thread alone though. Here's the thing, a lot of times it's not what is being said, but who is saying it. If somebody you deem as credible posted the same exact thing, you would try to interpret it differently. But anyway (Kanye Shrug) carry on.
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I think many, if not most, of the kids want to come in and play right away, and that is often a big selling point.
I remember back around 1990 when we were recruiting one of the best CBs in the country, Clifton Abraham, from Dallas Carter. (We had gotten his teammate, Jesse Armstead, the year before).
I heard that Abraham kept asking about the depth chart. He ended up going to FSU. He did make All-American, eventually, but was not much of a pro. I heard the "depth chart" story several times, from several people. Our people felt that maybe he didn't want to compete. He was also pretty short, so I think the whole thing was a turn-off to our staff.
When Brian Fortay, one of the two best HS QBs in the country came in, he was reported to have said he wasn't concerned with competition from Gino Torretta, he expected to be the backup and successor to Craig Erickson. Well, guess what?
Many kids have always been concerned about depth, competition and playing time. Many are ****y, and think they will play right away, but most seem to be very concerned with it. I'm just passing on a couple of anecdotal stories I've heard over the years. There were many others, and I'd often read recruiting publications and websites, and it seemed many kids are concerned about depth charts and getting on the field as soon as possible. I love the quote from Standish Dobard, that he wants to learn from Sandland. That's a great quote. Right kind of attitude.
I remember back around 1990 when we were recruiting one of the best CBs in the country, Clifton Abraham, from Dallas Carter. (We had gotten his teammate, Jesse Armstead, the year before).
I heard that Abraham kept asking about the depth chart. He ended up going to FSU. He did make All-American, eventually, but was not much of a pro. I heard the "depth chart" story several times, from several people. Our people felt that maybe he didn't want to compete. He was also pretty short, so I think the whole thing was a turn-off to our staff.
When Brian Fortay, one of the two best HS QBs in the country came in, he was reported to have said he wasn't concerned with competition from Gino Torretta, he expected to be the backup and successor to Craig Erickson. Well, guess what?
Many kids have always been concerned about depth, competition and playing time. Many are ****y, and think they will play right away, but most seem to be very concerned with it. I'm just passing on a couple of anecdotal stories I've heard over the years. There were many others, and I'd often read recruiting publications and websites, and it seemed many kids are concerned about depth charts and getting on the field as soon as possible. I love the quote from Standish Dobard, that he wants to learn from Sandland. That's a great quote. Right kind of attitude.
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