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Time to Rethink Recruiting at Miami

NVA CANE

NVA CANE

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The idea of walling off South Florida is outdated. The idea of focusing mostly on South Florida is outdated as well. This is no longer the 1980s where we had to rely on local recruits to establish the program.

Miami is an established program with a brand that is known nationally. You have to focus your resources nationally. Get the local kids that don't give you a headache, offer the local elite kids but don't wait on them, and scout the rest of the country. Focus whatever resources (bags) we have on 2 or 3 elite kids per cycle whether in-state or not. Coaches should fan out from the outset of every recruiting cycle.

Recruiting locally is broken. We don't have the resources, or the winning in place to do it properly any more. Of course its contingent on getting a coach that has more energy than a sloth. We need a coach with a modern offense that doesn't require elite talent at every position just to make it work.

Program needs lots of changes, new Athletic Director, new Head Coach, but just as important is a new philosophy on recruiting.
 
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You have to find a way to pay the kids. Bama is a master of this. How do you think USC won those championships? Running a squeaky clean program is never gonna work.
 
jackedaround said:
You have to find a way to pay the kids. Bama is a master of this. How do you think USC won those championships? Running a squeaky clean program is never gonna work.
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No USC locked down any local kid that had multiple P5 offers then targeted Elite National Kids

We arent doing that
 
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All this talk about locking down SF makes me laugh. We can’t even lock down a school a stones throw from campus.

Richt is done. If we aren’t paying and we aren’t winning and we aren’t exciting, what else is there?
 
Win games. Beat Duke. Beat Virginia. Beat Boston College. Beat a bad Florida State team by more than 1 point. Beat all the other scrub teams on the schedule decisively.

That's the biggest change in recruiting strategy we need.
 
LoyalCane24 said:
No we need to lock down south florida. I hope our next coach is a lock down recruiter. If we had Cristobal or Butch we would be locking down SoFla
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theres no locking down South florida bro, you have to pay coaches and handlers. Richt does camps and **** for this community and local coaches and handlers steer the studs away. Its just common sense, i don't know **** about what really goes on but its the only possible reason. Lets recruit the **** out of georgia and cali.
 
Dwinstitles said:
If Bama can do it we have to find a HC that can, its not impossible to lock down sfla
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We don't have that kind of money or resources. I have nothing against paying players, but realistically we simply cannot compete with Bama, UGA, now Tenessee, etc that have a seemingly infinite amount of resources at their disposal. I think a combination of targeted resources at a handful of kids while implementing a modern offense from the right coach is enough to make us relevant and playoff bound. Think of it as the Oklahoma model. Thats what we need to do.
 
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NVA CANE said:
The idea of walling off South Florida is outdated. The idea of focusing mostly on South Florida is outdated as well. This is no longer the 1980s where we had to rely on local recruits to establish the program.

Miami is an established program with a brand that is known nationally. You have to focus your resources nationally. Get the local kids that don't give you a headache, offer the local elite kids but don't wait on them, and scout the rest of the country. Focus whatever resources (bags) we have on 2 or 3 elite kids per cycle whether in-state or not. Coaches should fan out from the outset of every recruiting cycle.

Recruiting locally is broken. We don't have the resources, or the winning in place to do it properly any more. Of course its contingent on getting a coach that has more energy than a sloth. We need a coaching with a modern offense that doesn't require elite talent at every position just to make it work.

Program needs lots of changes, new Athletic Director, new Head Coach, but just as important is a new philosophy on recruiting.
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Yeah, the Miami brand is selling real well nationally. We allegedly don't have the resources to recruit locally, so the brilliant suggestion is recruit nationally. That makes perfect sense. Miami administration has gotten to know the NCAA staff on a first name basis, so don't think the bag thing is the sharpest idea, either. And while a new AD (still don't understand this one) and head coach are in order, why not throw in a new travel agent. And we need a new Uncle Luke to spread some bonus money. And a head coach not afraid to hide a positive drug test or two. Need change, baby.
 
NVA CANE said:
The idea of walling off South Florida is outdated. The idea of focusing mostly on South Florida is outdated as well. This is no longer the 1980s where we had to rely on local recruits to establish the program.

Miami is an established program with a brand that is known nationally. You have to focus your resources nationally. Get the local kids that don't give you a headache, offer the local elite kids but don't wait on them, and scout the rest of the country. Focus whatever resources (bags) we have on 2 or 3 elite kids per cycle whether in-state or not. Coaches should fan out from the outset of every recruiting cycle.

Recruiting locally is broken. We don't have the resources, or the winning in place to do it properly any more. Of course its contingent on getting a coach that has more energy than a sloth. We need a coach with a modern offense that doesn't require elite talent at every position just to make it work.

Program needs lots of changes, new Athletic Director, new Head Coach, but just as important is a new philosophy on recruiting.
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That's what Golden tried to do, was he ahead of his time?!?

Only way to wall off SoFla is by making in little Pyongyang...
 
First off, they need ELITE evaluations. They also need to rescind offers to the "Plan A" kids as soon as they realize that these kids are seeking remuneration. They must then redirect all efforts on the "Plan B" kids.

Texas A&M, the entire SEC, most of the Big Ten (even Wisconsin) and some in the Pac 10 pay players. I live in Los Angeles and while USC does not have a foundation, they have a formidable "tight-knit" network that compensates the players. UM does not, and will never, pay players.

Georgetown does not pay players during the recruiting process, but the players are paid handsomely while they play for the team.

Richt is "spent". He is not fully engaged and is "coasting". They will probably have to fire him next year when he again registers another 7-5 campaign......
 
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NVA CANE said:
We don't have that kind of money or resources. I have nothing against paying players, but realistically we simply cannot compete with Bama, UGA, now Tenessee, etc that have a seemingly infinite amount of resources at their disposal. I think a combination of targeted resources at a handful of kids while implementing a modern offense from the right coach is enough to make us relevant and playoff bound. Think of it as the Oklahoma model. Thats what we need to do.
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then we r doomed as a program and good luck ever winning a title and being elite
 
bacane said:
Yeah, the Miami brand is selling real well nationally. We allegedly don't have the resources to recruit locally, so the brilliant suggestion is recruit nationally. That makes perfect sense. Miami administration has gotten to know the NCAA staff on a first name basis, so don't think the bag thing is the sharpest idea, either. And while a new AD (still don't understand this one) and head coach are in order, why not throw in a new travel agent. And we need a new Uncle Luke to spread some bonus money. And a head coach not afraid to hide a positive drug test or two. Need change, baby.
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Our coaches can fly around and recruit players dummy. When talking resources its about outright benefits for players. LOL at being scared of the NCAA. Either pay players and become relevant and potentially get caught and get the death penalty, or simply die a slow irrelevant death because you're afraid the NCAA is going to come after you. The end result is the same. Thats what dumb *** fans like yourself haven't realized yet. The NCAA no longer matters.
 
You have to find kids who believe that coming to Miami is a unique experience. The kids in Miami (South Florida) do not have that connection anymore. They live here and take it for granted because they experience this place everyday. They want to play in front of a large crowd and feel like they are part of a college town, and Miami does not provide that experience. It's time to look elsewhere for talent except for maybe a few select kids. Staying home, or dream school is not enough anymore.
 
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Quit hiring stubborn ******** like Richt and Golden who are known as recruiters. Find a guy that has a system in place that fits the talent to the area the schools in. You can win a **** load of games with Florida three stars if you evaluate well and run a system that fits the talent.
 
So the idea now is to go get the second level prospects from elsewhere instead of the incredibly obvious fix of hiring a coach that actually understands how to recruit South Florida?

We are obviously never going to "lock down" South Florida but the basics haven't changed: get the local legends locked in early (the Devonta Freeman/Duke Johnson types) and turn them in to recruiters for you, hammer the feeder schools, exploit our advantage in identifying talent early (no way DJ Williams and Maurice Smith and Boateng shouldn't be Canes) and get your share of the high profile guys (not everyone, but more than we are currently getting).

Right now we are failing on pretty much every front.
 
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