Thoughts on Slaton and Herbert

[Peter Ariz]

I had the chance to watch Heritage live for the first time this season last night against Fort Pierce Westwood. Although it wasn't the greatest competition for them to be stacked up against, I just wanted to see how each of them were moving and how they looked physically. By no means am I an offensive line expert, but this is what I saw.

T.J. Slaton - Slaton is the widest person on the field in nearly any game that he plays in. A college weight room and nutritional plan will do wonders for him. As a Heritage source said, "his body looks the same that it did freshman year". Despite that, one of the things that impressed me the most about Slaton was the amount of snaps that he plays and that should highlight the type of athlete that he is While starting as the right tackle, he also doubles as a defensive tackle in the rotation and made a few plays at that spot. I knew that he played defense, but he really did not appear to be taking any snaps off. He is most likely a guard in college, but it's not out of the question that we could see him at right tackle once he redistributes his weight. Supreme athlete.


This is how I continue to picture Slaton...

[video=youtube;2T-GqlQ_nuU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-GqlQ_nuU[/video]

Kai-Leon Herbert - Herbert is an athletic, long, and lean lineman. Miami is recruiting him as a tackle, which may be out of pure need, but he really looks like a future pulling guard to me. He plays left tackle for You can see Herbert's basketball background in the way that he moves, which is an encouraging sign. He needs to add strength before he is ready to make a big impact in college.

 

[I'm james Jackson brother]

ARE THEY GONNA COMMIT TO US IS WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW.

YOU COULD'VE KEPT THE REST TO YOURSELF.

 

[brock]

I had the chance to watch Heritage live for the first time this season last night against Fort Pierce Westwood. Although it wasn't the greatest competition for them to be stacked up against, I just wanted to see how each of them were moving and how they looked physically. By no means am I an offensive line expert, but this is what I saw.

T.J. Slaton - Slaton is the widest person on the field in nearly any game that he plays in. A college weight room and nutritional plan will do wonders for him. As a Heritage source said, "his body looks the same that it did freshman year". Despite that, one of the things that impressed me the most about Slaton was the amount of snaps that he plays and that should highlight the type of athlete that he is While starting as the right tackle, he also doubles as a defensive tackle in the rotation and made a few plays at that spot. I knew that he played defense, but he really did not appear to be taking any snaps off. He is most likely a guard in college, but it's not out of the question that we could see him at right tackle once he redistributes his weight. Supreme athlete.


This is how I continue to picture Slaton...

[video=youtube;2T-GqlQ_nuU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-GqlQ_nuU[/video]

Kai-Leon Herbert - Herbert is an athletic, long, and lean lineman. Miami is recruiting him as a tackle, which may be out of pure need, but he really looks like a future pulling guard to me. He plays left tackle for You can see Herbert's basketball background in the way that he moves, which is an encouraging sign. He needs to add strength before he is ready to make a big impact in college.

If he needs to add strength then tackle is his best position. The guards are usually the strongest on the offensive line with tackles being the most athletic and Herbert has tackle body

 

[jkaz1]

Yep. That's the important part.

4 quality OL in south Florida this year (Donaldson, these 2 and Telfort) - we only have one at the moment.

We need to get 3 of the 4 anyway. We can't let top players keep leaving the area.

Close the deal.

ARE THEY GONNA COMMIT TO US IS WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW.

YOU COULD'VE KEPT THE REST TO YOURSELF.

 

[The Franchise]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

 

[I'm james Jackson brother]

Yep. That's the important part.

4 quality OL in south Florida this year (Donaldson, these 2 and Telfort) - we only have one at the moment.

We need to get 3 of the 4 anyway. We can't let top players keep leaving the area.

Close the deal.

ARE THEY GONNA COMMIT TO US IS WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW.

YOU COULD'VE KEPT THE REST TO YOURSELF.

Honestly that one we have is barely committed so really we don't have any in my opinion.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Pete did you ask them about Miami? We should all chip and send them to Michigan game during a blizzard

 

[PSU Cane]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

That's what i look for as well - along with feet and bend. Hand placement/technique can be taught (although punch seems more instinctive and natural).....but feet and natural bend can't.

 

[gogeta4]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

Slaton does. Thats why when folks were a bit down on him ...i knew they didnt see him play much.

 

[The Franchise]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

Slaton does. Thats why when folks were a bit down on him ...i knew they didnt see him play much.

That's why we failed on so many of those big local kids in the 90s. So many of them were just giant guys with zero motor.

Good to hear on Slaton because he's a big dude with some good athleticism.

 

[gogeta4]

Pete aint lying...Ive seen Slaton since he was like a sophomore or freshman...dude got the same build...which isnt a BAD thing....hes not really a sloppy fat guy either. He is akid that walks around with his shirt off, thinks he is buff lol. I agree with Pete..when he gets in to a football specific nutrition/weight program...look ut..because everything is there with him....he will be a mauling guard...n i think he can play RT. He's very similar to Darling as a prospect coming out of high school, and probably went against better comp than Darling did through those years. If he were to commit i expect a Darling type impact ..which in my mind isnt bad.

 

[The Franchise]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

That's what i look for as well - along with feet and bend. Hand placement/technique can be taught (although punch seems more instinctive and natural).....but feet and natural bend can't.

Exactly. You can have those feet, though, and still get nowhere without that motor. That's why the interior lineman are so hard to evaluate. Too many gurus fall in love with size.

 

[gogeta4]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

Slaton does. Thats why when folks were a bit down on him ...i knew they didnt see him play much.

That's why we failed on so many of those big local kids in the 90s. So many of them were just giant guys with zero motor.

Good to hear on Slaton because he's a big dude with some good athleticism.

yea...They have a lot of solid dlineman...and even last year he logged some mins at DT and DE even....he can move a bit. I watched him VERY CLOSELY last year in a game against an overmatched Stranahan team whom had a de against him that was maybe 5'10-190,6'1 185. I watched Slaton continuously pancake that kid....those are the times when the big lazies..usually take it easy to preserve energy..he said f it...Drove the kid 10 yds down the field every play. Kid complained to ref EVERY Play. People i were at game with who arent football novices even picked up on it like " **** #77 has a real problem with that kid how he is treating him"

 

[gogeta4]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

That's what i look for as well - along with feet and bend. Hand placement/technique can be taught (although punch seems more instinctive and natural).....but feet and natural bend can't.

Exactly. You can have those feet, though, and still get nowhere without that motor. That's why the interior lineman are so hard to evaluate. Too many gurus fall in love with size.

you aint lying. Plus another thing they miss out on his MEANNESS. I want my guards to be the guys to throw the first punch in a bar brawl. The dude your scared to go out with. Which is why guys like GALL and the happy go luckies have a hard time as well.

 

[CarolCityHigh]

I had the chance to watch Heritage live for the first time this season last night against Fort Pierce Westwood. Although it wasn't the greatest competition for them to be stacked up against, I just wanted to see how each of them were moving and how they looked physically. By no means am I an offensive line expert, but this is what I saw.

T.J. Slaton - Slaton is the widest person on the field in nearly any game that he plays in. A college weight room and nutritional plan will do wonders for him. As a Heritage source said, "his body looks the same that it did freshman year". Despite that, one of the things that impressed me the most about Slaton was the amount of snaps that he plays and that should highlight the type of athlete that he is While starting as the right tackle, he also doubles as a defensive tackle in the rotation and made a few plays at that spot. I knew that he played defense, but he really did not appear to be taking any snaps off. He is most likely a guard in college, but it's not out of the question that we could see him at right tackle once he redistributes his weight. Supreme athlete.


This is how I continue to picture Slaton...

[video=youtube;2T-GqlQ_nuU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-GqlQ_nuU[/video]

Kai-Leon Herbert - Herbert is an athletic, long, and lean lineman. Miami is recruiting him as a tackle, which may be out of pure need, but he really looks like a future pulling guard to me. He plays left tackle for You can see Herbert's basketball background in the way that he moves, which is an encouraging sign. He needs to add strength before he is ready to make a big impact in college.[/QUOTE

I have seen him in 2 games last two years and the one possible drawback at tackle is his relatively short arms. As a guard would be a tremendous run blocker and with a college S&C program a hut to play on Sunday.

 

[The Franchise]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

Slaton does. Thats why when folks were a bit down on him ...i knew they didnt see him play much.

That's why we failed on so many of those big local kids in the 90s. So many of them were just giant guys with zero motor.

Good to hear on Slaton because he's a big dude with some good athleticism.

yea...They have a lot of solid dlineman...and even last year he logged some mins at DT and DE even....he can move a bit. I watched him VERY CLOSELY last year in a game against an overmatched Stranahan team whom had a de against him that was maybe 5'10-190,6'1 185. I watched Slaton continuously pancake that kid....those are the times when the big lazies..usually take it easy to preserve energy..he said f it...Drove the kid 10 yds down the field every play. Kid complained to ref EVERY Play. People i were at game with who arent football novices even picked up on it like " **** #77 has a real problem with that kid how he is treating him"

Good stuff. Thanks. That's the kind of stuff I want to hear about linemen. I don't give a fck about most of the surface **** these gurus talk about when it comes to interior linemen.

 

[The Franchise]

You should pay attention to their motors more than anything because that's what tends to separate one giant athletic HS Interior lineman from another once they try to transition to college.

Are they getting by mainly on pure size against overmatched HS opponents, or are they continually giving great effort despite physically overwhelming the guys across from them?

That's what i look for as well - along with feet and bend. Hand placement/technique can be taught (although punch seems more instinctive and natural).....but feet and natural bend can't.

Exactly. You can have those feet, though, and still get nowhere without that motor. That's why the interior lineman are so hard to evaluate. Too many gurus fall in love with size.

you aint lying. Plus another thing they miss out on his MEANNESS. I want my guards to be the guys to throw the first punch in a bar brawl. The dude your scared to go out with. Which is why guys like GALL and the happy go luckies have a hard time as well.

Exactly. That's part of the motor category for me. Give me a dude who plays angry and takes everything personally. That's one reason I liked what I saw from Hillery at Paradise. He had an edge to him.

I can win a lot of football games with 5 rabid dogs up front who might not run a great 40 or look like Lee Haney with his shirt off.

 

[theibisrules]

They should do well at their perspective colleges

 

[jerzeycane]

They should do well at their perspective colleges

[video=youtube;Hrm-rPSCIBw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrm-rPSCIBw[/video]

 

[GoldCane]

How about your thoughts on them being Canes? That is what really matters. Donaldson/Slaton/Herbert/Telfort/Hillery. That is who we need to build a dominant line. Dykstra can come too I suppose