The Work 6-19

[pimpcane1]

Looks like we might be losing Henderson tomorrow based off his tweet -Announcement tomorrow @ 2��

Doesn't look good. Michigan offered June 4 and he tweeted some pro Michigan stuff

 

[cane since birth]

Lmao pete just said hes solid, yall know he could be announcing a all star game right?

 

[PSLcane772]

Still nervous man.... Would be a big loss


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[Sigma_Cane_7]

Still nervous man.... Would be a big loss


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Man with recruits like K. Dingle I'm good. Come play for the U or see us on the field. Point blank.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I'm not suggesting people should start panicking but the first full cycle with a new staff is supposed to be the honeymoon class where they sell hope and dreams to kids. For whatever Reason, Richt isn't going about it that way, it doesn't sound like. we'll see how it goes.

As i have consistently said for 15 years now, it's all about the evaluations, anyhow.

Like you said before, it's only June. There is a lot of time left to bring what should be a top 5 class together. My question is that if Richt isn't selling hopes and dreams, then what exactly do you think he's selling? Also it may be too early to conclude that this class won't follow the "Honeymoon" script.

hard to know from the outside, but from what I read in articles and reports, i'd observe a few things. Richt himself is a sincere, genuine dude. He seemingly believes in what he says. That alone separate him from the hard scrabble recruiters who say what a kid wants to hear. I'm not knocking him for it, but start there.

Second, he didn't take time off between gigs, and appears to have slipped into his comfort zone without the reflection that can come from time out of the seat.

I think he is selling relationships and honesty over hopes and emotions. It mit work for him. I'm just watching it for the forst time through a recruiting cycle and notice a difference. It's interesting because while he recruited here and there in so fla previously, it's different to have to live down here, recruiting-wise.

 

[rmcid]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Moneyslide34/status/744704466343976962/photo/1

Can an old dude get a translation?

 

[rmcid]

Sorry for double post above, it wasn't showing up on my work laptop

Maybe because you are posting on 3 or 4 of your accounts?

 

[FrancisSawyer]

I'm not suggesting people should start panicking but the first full cycle with a new staff is supposed to be the honeymoon class where they sell hope and dreams to kids. For whatever Reason, Richt isn't going about it that way, it doesn't sound like. we'll see how it goes.

As i have consistently said for 15 years now, it's all about the evaluations, anyhow.

Like you said before, it's only June. There is a lot of time left to bring what should be a top 5 class together. My question is that if Richt isn't selling hopes and dreams, then what exactly do you think he's selling? Also it may be too early to conclude that this class won't follow the "Honeymoon" script.

hard to know from the outside, but from what I read in articles and reports, i'd observe a few things. Richt himself is a sincere, genuine dude. He seemingly believes in what he says. That alone separate him from the hard scrabble recruiters who say what a kid wants to hear. I'm not knocking him for it, but start there.

Second, he didn't take time off between gigs, and appears to have slipped into his comfort zone without the reflection that can come from time out of the seat.

I think he is selling relationships and honesty over hopes and emotions. It mit work for him. I'm just watching it for the forst time through a recruiting cycle and notice a difference. It's interesting because while he recruited here and there in so fla previously, it's different to have to live down here, recruiting-wise.

You make an interesting point when you bring up that he didn't take any time off between gigs this not being able to reflect on his time at Georgia. It probably would have been ideal if he had the opportunity to take a year off but unfortunately life doesn't allow for ideal situations all the time. I think he will be fine as he seems to be an insightful type of man more than capable of the introspection necessary to improve on what needs to be improved. I just don't know the guy enough to know how set in his ways he has become. He is however honest enough to admit that the last few years at Georgia, he was less like a coach and more like the world's highest paid cheerleader. I think we'll be OK.

 

[Rellyrell]

If we can land those guys, nobody we don't get in this class will be missed.

That's what I'm saying. We do need guys asap in the 2017 class that can step in and play in 2017 season, though. But once that season is over.. 2018 is taking over.

Henderson is a need, his ceiling is off the charts. I think the only 2017 CB that can hang with that 2018 class outside of Henderson is Marco Wilson. If we NEED one CB in 2017 it's him. Also, Bandy is the goods, but he's different than Blades, Samuel, Surtain, etc etc. I see Jobe and Frierson playing safety at UM.

Man ya'll r killing me w the next year crap. That swan song is dead. You don't get elite by recruiting next year; you get elite by recruiting this year and the year thereafter, and the year thereafter!

There's no guarantee that the elite crop of 2018 kids will commit to us; then what? Wait to the next elite group of 2019??

Bama ain't talking about 2018; neither is FSU, OSU, Clemson, and other top tier programs. They are arming themselves now! When u arm now, then there's a pretty good chance you are going to be armed the following year as well.

Kids want playing time, sure, but they want to be associated with winners. They want to be associated w schools that pump out 1st rounders.

This soft shouldered "if" game we've been playing regarding recruiting has to got to stop. I can care less of the 2018 class b/c we have a talented 2017 So Fla class getting away w us, and if we don't win this season, bet $ all those prospects you're banking on for 2018 will flee too, w the exception of Blades Jr.

I'm not sweating it, but when people start pointing to the next class it reminds me of the wide receiver stuff from years back. Preston Parker ring a bell....don't worry, we got him coming. His class is loaded and then we're eventually trotting out punter out there at wide receiver just so we can practice.

Long way to go. Have a **** season, I'll worry. Until then, call me unconcerned.

I mean what I said was just purely fact. If in 2018 we land Blades, Jobe, Frierson, Surtain/Samuel Jr, they will easily cancel out misses.

If, if, if...how has that "if" game been working out for us? What your statement lacks is a fundamental understanding that the 2018 class is not guaranteed...

This is how this recruiting thing work in the new decade; you hit on the current cycle, then you hit on the next cycle, which will dang near guarantee that you hit on the cycle after that. Once you hit on 3 cycles in a row, you then are pretty much on cruise control as far as re-stocking vs rebuilding.

2016 was a throw away cycle b/c we were in transition. Which means 2017 HAS to be a hit cycle in order for 2018 to come to fruition. You hit the 2017 cycle, finish in the top 10, then and only then should and could you feel confident about the 2018 cycle. Miss on the 2017 cycle, and there's a 40/60 chance you'll hit on the 2018 cycle b/c other teams like Bama, FSU, OSU, Clemson, and Notre Dame who hit on the 2017 cycle, will then admonish the 2018 class to compete with an already established top tier class.

Iron sharpens iron.

 

[jmoney2stackz]

Lmao that tweet was actually directed at me. I quoted him saying that he was UF lean throwing shade towards a UM commit and he deleted the tweet after.

 

[jmoney2stackz]

shawn davis ‏@MT6_Shawn 7m7 minutes ago
No disrespect to UM non of you UM writers write nothing or tweet bout me at all����still one of my tops️

Davis talking about you Pete?

Lmao that tweet was actually directed at me. I quoted him saying that he was UF lean throwing shade towards a UM commit and he deleted the tweet after.


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[Combo]

Honestly I feel like this staff isn't too worried about the DB recruiting this year, and maybe even doesn't want to bring in too many, because they know how stacked next years class will be.

That would be ridiculous. The '18 guys (if we actually end up gettin them) won't arrive on campus until 2018. We do need to win games in the next two years, don't you think? Our CB talent looks just plain weak right now. I wouldn't be surprised if our CB situation costs us a couple games this year. And we lose our best guy (Corn) after this season. We need some CBs and the sooner the better.

Having said that, it's June. Lots will happen in the next 8 months. Near names will appear.

It would be ridiculous to plan ahead for what looks like an absolutely loaded DB class in 2018? I'm not saying don't take good players for the 2017 class. Ultimately if the staff views someone as great talent and a take, then they are a take. But that doesn't mean they aren't looking ahead and planning to take 1-2 fewer than they would if 2018 wasn't stacked (and we were in the same ****ty DB situation we are currently in).

That's not what I wrote. Of course we want to clean up in '18. But we have two full seasons before those guys would arrive. We need to win games during those two seasons. And to do so, we need to dramatically improve our CB talent. ****, if we lose too many games the next two years, we risk losing some of the '18 guys we're favored for now.

Any competent coach tries to get impact players as soon as possible. You keep adding talent and the future will take care of itself. The whole bird in the hand thing.

Rellyroll said it very well a few posts above.

 

[Calinative]

That's what I'm saying. We do need guys asap in the 2017 class that can step in and play in 2017 season, though. But once that season is over.. 2018 is taking over.

Henderson is a need, his ceiling is off the charts. I think the only 2017 CB that can hang with that 2018 class outside of Henderson is Marco Wilson. If we NEED one CB in 2017 it's him. Also, Bandy is the goods, but he's different than Blades, Samuel, Surtain, etc etc. I see Jobe and Frierson playing safety at UM.

Man ya'll r killing me w the next year crap. That swan song is dead. You don't get elite by recruiting next year; you get elite by recruiting this year and the year thereafter, and the year thereafter!

There's no guarantee that the elite crop of 2018 kids will commit to us; then what? Wait to the next elite group of 2019??

Bama ain't talking about 2018; neither is FSU, OSU, Clemson, and other top tier programs. They are arming themselves now! When u arm now, then there's a pretty good chance you are going to be armed the following year as well.

Kids want playing time, sure, but they want to be associated with winners. They want to be associated w schools that pump out 1st rounders.

This soft shouldered "if" game we've been playing regarding recruiting has to got to stop. I can care less of the 2018 class b/c we have a talented 2017 So Fla class getting away w us, and if we don't win this season, bet $ all those prospects you're banking on for 2018 will flee too, w the exception of Blades Jr.

I'm not sweating it, but when people start pointing to the next class it reminds me of the wide receiver stuff from years back. Preston Parker ring a bell....don't worry, we got him coming. His class is loaded and then we're eventually trotting out punter out there at wide receiver just so we can practice.

Long way to go. Have a **** season, I'll worry. Until then, call me unconcerned.

I mean what I said was just purely fact. If in 2018 we land Blades, Jobe, Frierson, Surtain/Samuel Jr, they will easily cancel out misses.

If, if, if...how has that "if" game been working out for us? What your statement lacks is a fundamental understanding that the 2018 class is not guaranteed...

This is how this recruiting thing work in the new decade; you hit on the current cycle, then you hit on the next cycle, which will dang near guarantee that you hit on the cycle after that. Once you hit on 3 cycles in a row, you then are pretty much on cruise control as far as re-stocking vs rebuilding.

2016 was a throw away cycle b/c we were in transition. Which means 2017 HAS to be a hit cycle in order for 2018 to come to fruition. You hit the 2017 cycle, finish in the top 10, then and only then should and could you feel confident about the 2018 cycle. Miss on the 2017 cycle, and there's a 40/60 chance you'll hit on the 2018 cycle b/c other teams like Bama, FSU, OSU, Clemson, and Notre Dame who hit on the 2017 cycle, will then admonish the 2018 class to compete with an already established top tier class.

Iron sharpens iron.

NO, my statement doesn't lack the understanding the 2018 class isn't guaranteed. There is a reason the statement started with if. I completely understand how recruiting works. Imagine its 2020, and we are looking back on the 2017 and 2018 class, in 2017 we missed a couple guys, but in 2018 we loaded the **** up....Do those misses in 2017 matter? The answer is no, not really.
That is what my statement was saying. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[INCaneFan]

Maybe the staff knows something we don't with our current cb group.

There's too much logic in this post for a lot of posters on this board.