The Road to Orlando: Champagnat Catholic

[CANE4LIFE]

IMO out of state schools can offer everyone and anyone. If we offer a local kid and then pull his offer it doesn't go over well. I think that is a reason OOS schools always are the 1st to offer a lot of these kids.

Nice spin

Its not spin, he has a very valid point. We do it too. We throw offers out to highly rated OOS kids too. When it comes to local kids though, we have relationships that we have to consider. If Bama throws an offer at a kid, and he takes it, then they find someone better, they can slow play him, grey shirt, or do any number of other things. IF we did that, we could poison our relationship with that program, and the HC. Look at the sh*t show last year with Ice Harris and BTW. Im sure AG would like to avoid sh*t like that with local programs he wants good relationships with.

Maybe Nick Saban can get away with all sorts of cr@p right now, but AG cant. If Al had 2 or 3 MNC rings it would be one thing, but he doesnt, so he has to tread carefully with local relationships.

I have no knowledge of the specifics of these players mentioned above, but the point about being careful how we treat local recruits is not B.S.

 

[BlackKeysFan]

I have 0 complaints about the effort being put in on the recruiting trail by the staff. I have this or that opinion as a youtube watcher just like anybody else but I feel confident that if nothing else, the effort to recruit dilligiently is there in droves.

I think that we get a pretty elaborate background on most of these kids from So Fla, way more than the OOS and even some other in state schools. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if some of the kids we've passed on in recent years were because of off the field stuff.

Ridley, SBB, and the Westminster kids are the local groups we need to lock down this summer and build the class around.

 

[jruiz]

Unless Al is planning on flipping Quinn blanking he needs to offer johnson. Period.

 

[FINCHLION]

I'm sorry but Michael Johnson needs to be offered asap, my fear is we will end of signing some mediocre safety which will **** me off. Come on AG offer this kid, he will ball out that much more for you cause he really wants to be a cane. Make us loyal fans proud AG.

 

[canadianhurricane]

IMO out of state schools can offer everyone and anyone. If we offer a local kid and then pull his offer it doesn't go over well. I think that is a reason OOS schools always are the 1st to offer a lot of these kids.

Nice spin

Its not spin, he has a very valid point. We do it too. We throw offers out to highly rated OOS kids too. When it comes to local kids though, we have relationships that we have to consider. If Bama throws an offer at a kid, and he takes it, then they find someone better, they can slow play him, grey shirt, or do any number of other things. IF we did that, we could poison our relationship with that program, and the HC. Look at the sh*t show last year with Ice Harris and BTW. Im sure AG would like to avoid sh*t like that with local programs he wants good relationships with.

Maybe Nick Saban can get away with all sorts of cr@p right now, but AG cant. If Al had 2 or 3 MNC rings it would be one thing, but he doesnt, so he has to tread carefully with local relationships.

I have no knowledge of the specifics of these players mentioned above, but the point about being careful how we treat local recruits is not B.S.

I'd undertand making contact and not offerinng, but it always seems like UM is flat out the last of the big schools to even contact local recruits. James Coley talked about how important it was to get to kids first when he was first hired, but not much has changed.

I'd hate for Micheal Johnson to be this years Skai Moore (a local kid who seems to have legitimate interest at a position of need). I hope we dont embarrass ourselves and offer him a day ot two before NSD..

 

[Angry Ibis]

Speaking of Orlando. Are the championship games usually a tough ticket or because they play in a big stadium it is an easy get?

Anybody on here going to the games?

 

[PUNCICANE]

Pete, do you see Johnson as a safety or olb in college?

 

[CANE4LIFE]

IMO out of state schools can offer everyone and anyone. If we offer a local kid and then pull his offer it doesn't go over well. I think that is a reason OOS schools always are the 1st to offer a lot of these kids.

Nice spin

Its not spin, he has a very valid point. We do it too. We throw offers out to highly rated OOS kids too. When it comes to local kids though, we have relationships that we have to consider. If Bama throws an offer at a kid, and he takes it, then they find someone better, they can slow play him, grey shirt, or do any number of other things. IF we did that, we could poison our relationship with that program, and the HC. Look at the sh*t show last year with Ice Harris and BTW. Im sure AG would like to avoid sh*t like that with local programs he wants good relationships with.

Maybe Nick Saban can get away with all sorts of cr@p right now, but AG cant. If Al had 2 or 3 MNC rings it would be one thing, but he doesnt, so he has to tread carefully with local relationships.

I have no knowledge of the specifics of these players mentioned above, but the point about being careful how we treat local recruits is not B.S.

I'd undertand making contact and not offerinng, but it always seems like UM is flat out the last of the big schools to even contact local recruits. James Coley talked about how important it was to get to kids first when he was first hired, but not much has changed.

I'd hate for Micheal Johnson to be this years Skai Moore (a local kid who seems to have legitimate interest at a position of need). I hope we dont embarrass ourselves and offer him a day ot two before NSD..

I hear what you are saying, but we cant be "first" on every kid out there. The staff is only human after all. Sometimes kids will slip through the cracks. Sometimes there just isnt enough time to evaluate everyone and offer everyone we want before other teams. Look at Kaaya. We evaluated the kid and jumped on him before everyone else. And it payed off. So far anyway, and if we end up keeping him, it will ONLY be because we got to him first. So we know the staff does jump on kids early.

I mean look at Torrance Gibson. He says we have been recruiting him since the 8th Grade!! You hear kids ALL THE TIME saying "Miami has been on me the longest", or "Miami offered me first". So its not like we dont get to many kids first. But we cant get to all of them. And when it comes to local and in-state kids, I think the staff is a little more careful with just throwing out offers sight unseen. I think they try to avoid potentially getting into a mess like with Ice Harris last year. Something they may be more willing to risk with an OOS kid from a program we dont usually recruit.

 

[Jassid82]

BINGO, DiegoCane! You can tell the rookies are out in full force in this thread. You guys talk all this ALA/LSU stuff and how they "get there first" but do you really think the majority of these offers they are throwing out are commitable?? And as posters have said, its EASY for an OOS to just throw offers around. Especially to a 2016 kid. They got 2 years to evaluate, then if they dont like him, they "Travis Johnson" the kid and keep moving.

You think Saban or Myles care about their "reputations" in SoFla? George Smith locked Saban out of STA and look how much that affected him. NONE! 4 MNCs later and it prob doesnt even faze him. Prob forgot STA is even on the map. He runs **** right now. Esp Saban. "You mad because I pulled your kids scholie, Mr HS coach?" F you. Im Nick Saban.

Golden on the other hand CANNOT have another "Denver Kirkland" situation happen EVER AGAIN. The streets gave him a pass on that. That is a ONE TIME pass though because that situation got VERY ugly. He recovered from that and I assume is walking very lightly from here on out.

(P.S.- The Michael Johnson thing is a mystery. But it was reported on here that he got worked by Brandon Powell at a UM camp this summer. So maybe they got scared off when they saw him in person. Didnt like how he moved in space. Or how he covered ground.)

 

[NorthFlaCane]

IMO out of state schools can offer everyone and anyone. If we offer a local kid and then pull his offer it doesn't go over well. I think that is a reason OOS schools always are the 1st to offer a lot of these kids.

Nice spin

Its not spin, he has a very valid point. We do it too. We throw offers out to highly rated OOS kids too. When it comes to local kids though, we have relationships that we have to consider. If Bama throws an offer at a kid, and he takes it, then they find someone better, they can slow play him, grey shirt, or do any number of other things. IF we did that, we could poison our relationship with that program, and the HC. Look at the sh*t show last year with Ice Harris and BTW. Im sure AG would like to avoid sh*t like that with local programs he wants good relationships with.

Maybe Nick Saban can get away with all sorts of cr@p right now, but AG cant. If Al had 2 or 3 MNC rings it would be one thing, but he doesnt, so he has to tread carefully with local relationships.

I have no knowledge of the specifics of these players mentioned above, but the point about being careful how we treat local recruits is not B.S.

I'd undertand making contact and not offerinng, but it always seems like UM is flat out the last of the big schools to even contact local recruits. James Coley talked about how important it was to get to kids first when he was first hired, but not much has changed.

I'd hate for Micheal Johnson to be this years Skai Moore (a local kid who seems to have legitimate interest at a position of need). I hope we dont embarrass ourselves and offer him a day ot two before NSD..

Your opinion is just not based in fact. Who are the kids that we didn't contact and didn't evaluate?

 

[PUNCICANE]

Miami isn't late to Johnson at all. They've evaluated him a couple of times and decided not to offer. Seems like most people like him as a player, but they made their evaluation.

They could re-evaluate based on senior film, but that's different than being late on a local kid.

Exactly! The OOS offers aren't even real 90% of the time anyways. Bama offers but it's not commitable until the kid attends their camp...

 

[BravoK9851]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-bF2-pzL78&list=UU5g6Qe1PtUKxRrd3IAGTLwg

 

[suzy7389]

**** gerald robinson will commit on the spot if we offer .. i just saw his instagram and he loves miami

 

[dudenate]

Speaking of Orlando. Are the championship games usually a tough ticket or because they play in a big stadium it is an easy get?

Anybody on here going to the games?

They are usually over a two day span (fri and a sat). I've been to a few of the games the past few years and its not a hard ticket at all. Saw MNW dominate Boone one year and then Seminole pull off that crazy game winner against them the next year. It's really cool to see all our coaches there.