The last time Jedd Fisch...

We obviously don't have alot of blazing speed at WR. To me, that means the WR's have to learn to be the best route runners so they can master double moves. I know Fisch knows how to set up the double moves. It comes down to the WR's executing the route. I am also looking for Dorsett to be the guy here. I haven't seen him myself, but most people say Malcolm Lewis is a good route runner. Perhaps he can be a guy that can master that. It's too bad AJL won't be here til next year.
 
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We obviously don't have alot of blazing speed at WR. To me, that means the WR's have to learn to be the best route runners so they can master double moves. I know Fisch knows how to set up the double moves. It comes down to the WR's executing the route. I am also looking for Dorsett to be the guy here. I haven't seen him myself, but most people say Malcolm Lewis is a good route runner. Perhaps he can be a guy that can master that. It's too bad AJL won't be here til next year.

Dorsett is apparently fast as ****. But if the play calling is right and we can move the ball up the field bit by bit it should be enough to eventually open up things down field for a big play or two.
 
Again, I expect at least one of the true freshman to play the role of field-stretcher. They just need one guy to be able to step up. This is still a better crew of WRs than when UM was lining up Brian Monroe out wide during spring ball
 
It'll be interesting to see what Jedd does with a quarterback that can drive the ball downfield with velocity and be more of a threat out of the pocket. But again, it all starts upfront, can Kehoe's unit play up to its physical potential?

Yup.

Morris has more of an NFL skill set than Jacory did and I think that will help him and Fisch gel.

But you're right, its up to the big guys up front to keep Morris clean.

I know time of possession can be an overrated statistic, but I think it's imperative that UM can at least control the ball a little bit by consistently running the ball and moving the chains. I see a very young D for the Canes, a lot of freshman that may not be physically prepared to play as much as they will be asked to. So how do you hide them?

Easy, control the clock, shorten games.

Again, Im not saying we're going complete ball control(honestly, Fisch, doesn't strike me as that type of guy) but this can't be a classic Errickson hit-or-miss type of offense. There has to be some consistency in terms of moving the chains and giving the defense some rest on a consistent basis

I like the potential of this offense- but I do think Streeter and his ability to take the top off a defense at anytime is the missing piece

Agree with this. I don't see Coach D being as agressive unless we do chage field position. Field position and ball control will be key this year.
 
K9 - i completely agree about the TE spot. I think that is where we have the most chance for (unexpected) success at least early on until someone proves to be a deep threat
 
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Again, I expect at least one of the true freshman to play the role of field-stretcher. They just need one guy to be able to step up. This is still a better crew of WRs than when UM was lining up Brian Monroe out wide during spring ball

a FR or Dorsett seem to be the best candidate...probably Lewis or Lockhart
 
We obviously don't have alot of blazing speed at WR. To me, that means the WR's have to learn to be the best route runners so they can master double moves. I know Fisch knows how to set up the double moves. It comes down to the WR's executing the route. I am also looking for Dorsett to be the guy here. I haven't seen him myself, but most people say Malcolm Lewis is a good route runner. Perhaps he can be a guy that can master that. It's too bad AJL won't be here til next year.

Dorsett is apparently fast as ****. But if the play calling is right and we can move the ball up the field bit by bit it should be enough to eventually open up things down field for a big play or two.

I like Dorsett but he seems like more of an underneath threat than a deep threat. I think people are expecting too much of a leap from him this year to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if Lewis ends up with more yards than Dorsett.
 
Wow, and I remember when nearly everyone was doubting his hire because he didn't do well with zero talent at U MINN and because AG had never sat in the same room as him. I'll contend now as I did then, we have a 2nd tier NFL OC calling our plays (which btw is about as good as you can do in CFB). I'm still a fan. Excited to see what he can do as his recruits start to develop in the system.
 
I know time of possession can be an overrated statistic, but I think it's imperative that UM can at least control the ball a little bit by consistently running the ball and moving the chains. I see a very young D for the Canes, a lot of freshman that may not be physically prepared to play as much as they will be asked to. So how do you hide them?

Easy, control the clock, shorten games.

Again, Im not saying we're going complete ball control(honestly, Fisch, doesn't strike me as that type of guy) but this can't be a classic Errickson hit-or-miss type of offense. There has to be some consistency in terms of moving the chains and giving the defense some rest on a consistent basis

I like the potential of this offense- but I do think Streeter and his ability to take the top off a defense at anytime is the missing piece

that is the million dollar question right now. we dont have anyone that is a threat on the outside. the safeties will be crowding the box on every down until we make them respect the outside/deep ball

Dorsett can be a down the field threat for us. I believe Scott can be as well, maybe not at Streeters level but he can threaten deep.
 
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i think morris' gun gives us more big play ability.. will it happen? who knows.. but like the possibility of it.
 
I think Fisch's offense has the potential to be explosive providing the groundgame clicks. Everything will depend on having an effective running game and working playaction off of it. The thing I'm interested in seeing is how Fisch and Kehoe merge the zone running scheme and the power concept. Kehoe is known for the power G series, and Fisch likes the zone concept. If they can effectively merge the two to create a productive between the tackles and off tackle groundgame, then Fisch can set his sights on attacking the intermediate zone areas. I say zone coverages because I think Fisch would rather attack zone coverages using playaction than man coverages.

Another interesting point I'm curious to see is how we pass protect in the vertical game. If Kehoe has to pass protect using seven or more personnel, I doubt very seriously we will see receivers work to get behind the safeties. If that's the case, the emphasis would be to manipulate the underneath defenders and stay in front of the safeties. Although Morris has an above average arm to rifle throws between defenders, I'm not sure he's good at moving them with his eyes. To get those defenders off their spot playaction is going to be needed. I don't think this is such a bad concept because it will allow those two and three man routes to become more deceptive in terms of using double moves to get open, especially if teams are going to catch routes out of zone coverage. Now, if Kehoe can get the type of protection needed to get four or five receivers into pass patterns, then that opens up eveything.

A feature about the Shanahan philosophy that isn't mentioned much is that it dictates coverages by formation and motion. Personally, I would like to see Fisch use a lot of multiple receiver sets on one side of the field. For example, if we're operating out of the pro form, 22 personnel set, I would rather see that set as twins or motion to twins. The reason being is because you will immediately know whether or not the coverage is man or zone. If both corners are aligned with the receivers that is a pretty good indication the coverage is man. If one corner stays on the opposite side of the field and the OLbacker splits the difference between the slot WR and tackle it is indicative of zone. To this day, trip formations are still the most dictative formations out there. You're either going to get man or some form of three/four deep coverage.

As for stretching the defense, again, if Kehoe's upfront troops can hold up in pass protection, I think we will find someone to line up on the boundary to get deep. That throw is more of a high percentage throw than attempting to go deep on the wideside. Morris certainly has the arm strength to get the ball down the wideside, but I don't think we will see many deep throw across the field. If Fisch dicates coverages by formation and motion we should see two verticals with a flat release against any rolled up zone coverage. The deep dig and corner route should be another staple, especially off of playaction against said coverage. Against any three deep type coverage I would look for Fisch to attack the seams and flats.

If we face a lot of man coverages, Morris will be the key. I also would not be surprised to see Fisch go with four wide bunch sets and use quick crossing and out routes.
 
We obviously don't have alot of blazing speed at WR. To me, that means the WR's have to learn to be the best route runners so they can master double moves. I know Fisch knows how to set up the double moves. It comes down to the WR's executing the route. I am also looking for Dorsett to be the guy here. I haven't seen him myself, but most people say Malcolm Lewis is a good route runner. Perhaps he can be a guy that can master that. It's too bad AJL won't be here til next year.

Dorsett is apparently fast as ****. But if the play calling is right and we can move the ball up the field bit by bit it should be enough to eventually open up things down field for a big play or two.

I like Dorsett but he seems like more of an underneath threat than a deep threat. I think people are expecting too much of a leap from him this year to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if Lewis ends up with more yards than Dorsett.

I was just thinking the same thing. I'm not sure he's ready to take the step fans seem to be expecting. I'm thinking Hurns carries the load with a very big year and the #2 guys ends up being Asante.
 
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I think Fisch's offense has the potential to be explosive providing the groundgame clicks. Everything will depend on having an effective running game and working playaction off of it. The thing I'm interested in seeing is how Fisch and Kehoe merge the zone running scheme and the power concept. Kehoe is known for the power G series, and Fisch likes the zone concept. If they can effectively merge the two to create a productive between the tackles and off tackle groundgame, then Fisch can set his sights on attacking the intermediate zone areas. I say zone coverages because I think Fisch would rather attack zone coverages using playaction than man coverages.

Another interesting point I'm curious to see is how we pass protect in the vertical game. If Kehoe has to pass protect using seven or more personnel, I doubt very seriously we will see receivers work to get behind the safeties. If that's the case, the emphasis would be to manipulate the underneath defenders and stay in front of the safeties. Although Morris has an above average arm to rifle throws between defenders, I'm not sure he's good at moving them with his eyes. To get those defenders off their spot playaction is going to be needed. I don't think this is such a bad concept because it will allow those two and three man routes to become more deceptive in terms of using double moves to get open, especially if teams are going to catch routes out of zone coverage. Now, if Kehoe can get the type of protection needed to get four or five receivers into pass patterns, then that opens up eveything.

A feature about the Shanahan philosophy that isn't mentioned much is that it dictates coverages by formation and motion. Personally, I would like to see Fisch use a lot of multiple receiver sets on one side of the field. For example, if we're operating out of the pro form, 22 personnel set, I would rather see that set as twins or motion to twins. The reason being is because you will immediately know whether or not the coverage is man or zone. If both corners are aligned with the receivers that is a pretty good indication the coverage is man. If one corner stays on the opposite side of the field and the OLbacker splits the difference between the slot WR and tackle it is indicative of zone. To this day, trip formations are still the most dictative formations out there. You're either going to get man or some form of three/four deep coverage.

As for stretching the defense, again, if Kehoe's upfront troops can hold up in pass protection, I think we will find someone to line up on the boundary to get deep. That throw is more of a high percentage throw than attempting to go deep on the wideside. Morris certainly has the arm strength to get the ball down the wideside, but I don't think we will see many deep throw across the field. If Fisch dicates coverages by formation and motion we should see two verticals with a flat release against any rolled up zone coverage. The deep dig and corner route should be another staple, especially off of playaction against said coverage. Against any three deep type coverage I would look for Fisch to attack the seams and flats.

If we face a lot of man coverages, Morris will be the key. I also would not be surprised to see Fisch go with four wide bunch sets and use quick crossing and out routes.

Nice post. I think the single most important thing for continued development of Fisch's offense is Morris. Morris has the arm to utilize the middle of the field so Fisch can incorporate some of those West Coast passing game ideas where Jacory may not have been able, and as the highlight of Cutler showed, we can use Morris' natural athleticism to move the pocket off playaction.

I like what you said about trying to merge the power and zone blocking schemes into one congruent rushing attack. It will be interesting to see how that develops. We have NFL talent all across the offensive line, and we need to use it to our advantage. In fact I believe it to be the strength of our team.
 
I'm expecting big things from Fisch's offense this year. He needs to show me more than he did last year for me to get on his jock. To me he is still unproven.
 
OL needs to be the strength for sure. They needed to last year though. Hopefully they're stronger and a year more experienced and that makes the difference.
 
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I'm expecting big things from Fisch's offense this year. He needs to show me more than he did last year for me to get on his jock. To me he is still unproven.

I am as well. I was unsure of the hire at the time...but after watching the offense last year I have to say I was pretty impressed. He was an utter failure at Minnesota and simply by succeeding a little bit last year it showed me that he has learned from past mistakes and simplified his super complex offensive philosophy for the college game.

But the biggest indication to me that he is our guy was his handling of Jacory. Harris was done, damaged, confidence completely broken, and Fisch got more out of him than I ever expected. That alone gets huge kudos from me.
 
I think Fisch's offense has the potential to be explosive providing the groundgame clicks. Everything will depend on having an effective running game and working playaction off of it. The thing I'm interested in seeing is how Fisch and Kehoe merge the zone running scheme and the power concept. Kehoe is known for the power G series, and Fisch likes the zone concept. If they can effectively merge the two to create a productive between the tackles and off tackle groundgame, then Fisch can set his sights on attacking the intermediate zone areas. I say zone coverages because I think Fisch would rather attack zone coverages using playaction than man coverages.

Another interesting point I'm curious to see is how we pass protect in the vertical game. If Kehoe has to pass protect using seven or more personnel, I doubt very seriously we will see receivers work to get behind the safeties. If that's the case, the emphasis would be to manipulate the underneath defenders and stay in front of the safeties. Although Morris has an above average arm to rifle throws between defenders, I'm not sure he's good at moving them with his eyes. To get those defenders off their spot playaction is going to be needed. I don't think this is such a bad concept because it will allow those two and three man routes to become more deceptive in terms of using double moves to get open, especially if teams are going to catch routes out of zone coverage. Now, if Kehoe can get the type of protection needed to get four or five receivers into pass patterns, then that opens up eveything.

A feature about the Shanahan philosophy that isn't mentioned much is that it dictates coverages by formation and motion. Personally, I would like to see Fisch use a lot of multiple receiver sets on one side of the field. For example, if we're operating out of the pro form, 22 personnel set, I would rather see that set as twins or motion to twins. The reason being is because you will immediately know whether or not the coverage is man or zone. If both corners are aligned with the receivers that is a pretty good indication the coverage is man. If one corner stays on the opposite side of the field and the OLbacker splits the difference between the slot WR and tackle it is indicative of zone. To this day, trip formations are still the most dictative formations out there. You're either going to get man or some form of three/four deep coverage.

As for stretching the defense, again, if Kehoe's upfront troops can hold up in pass protection, I think we will find someone to line up on the boundary to get deep. That throw is more of a high percentage throw than attempting to go deep on the wideside. Morris certainly has the arm strength to get the ball down the wideside, but I don't think we will see many deep throw across the field. If Fisch dicates coverages by formation and motion we should see two verticals with a flat release against any rolled up zone coverage. The deep dig and corner route should be another staple, especially off of playaction against said coverage. Against any three deep type coverage I would look for Fisch to attack the seams and flats.

If we face a lot of man coverages, Morris will be the key. I also would not be surprised to see Fisch go with four wide bunch sets and use quick crossing and out routes.

Nice post. I think the single most important thing for continued development of Fisch's offense is Morris. Morris has the arm to utilize the middle of the field so Fisch can incorporate some of those West Coast passing game ideas where Jacory may not have been able, and as the highlight of Cutler showed, we can use Morris' natural athleticism to move the pocket off playaction.

I like what you said about trying to merge the power and zone blocking schemes into one congruent rushing attack. It will be interesting to see how that develops. We have NFL talent all across the offensive line, and we need to use it to our advantage. In fact I believe it to be the strength of our team.

I am in agreement. Morris is going to be key against any man coverage due to his athleticism. Obviously he needs to show accuracy on those crossing routes Fisch will surely use to beat man coverage. But more importantly, it will be the threat of taking off with the ball, especially early on, that will likely force defensive coordinators to go with zone coverages.

As mentioned, I think everything will depend on how well Kehoe's troops hold up in both the groundgame and pass protection. If we can get four and five receivers into pass patterns it will stretch the field both horizontally and vertically. That will allow the middle of the field to be exploited because it won't be congested with defenders. Here again, though, if we can't get the protection needed to get four or five receivers into routes, we will have to rely on double move off playaction to get two and three receivers open against four/five under and two/three deep coverages.
 
Jedd Fisch on Hurricane Hotline today:

"The only guy I've been around who is comparable in terms of velocity and arm strength to Stephen is Jay Cutler. And he has one of the top 2 or 3 arms in the NFL. With Stephen's ball speed, there isn't a play we're afraid to call."
 
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