What's wrong with Fab? He falls just outside my top 5 of all-time, he did commercial jams and also kept it street with his freestyles.
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My bad. I thought when u stated the first 4 OutKast albums u mentioned charts. I sortve just skim through most posts. My bad on that brother. But back to simply album for album and what's relevant to the culture I strongly disagree on the outlast discography. For me I'm always gonna be like edub and parish Smith. I HATE WHEN MONSTERS CROSSOVER. outcast first two albums they were done for their roots. They were all about them relaying their upbringing and their mindsets. Once they ran out of **** to say on those topics they crossed over and started making all the music their a & r would push on them. At the end of the day it is a business and you gotta appease ur label one way or the other. I don't knock they were selling like mad and topping all the charts. Problem for me is that's what their music became. Nothing gritty or true to them at that point. It was just business. Wu never forgot their roots. That's not to say they wouldn't make something on am album that was classically produced to appease radio programmers. But not anywhere close to a large percentage either. Dre and big boi literally said the reason they fell apart and backed away in large is cause they didn't feel they were being true to who they are. Again I don't take nothing away from any of those boys I mentioned and plenty of others. But for me ur giving them way too much credit after the first two maybe 3 albums.
Bone can be in that discussion,nwa and sonon and so on. Like I said for me it's not about a bias. It's about the culture and staying true to your music and yourself.
Ur a young dude huh? Just curious. Just notice you mention none of the people who founded this ****. To say a top 5 and not mention rakim,biggie,pac and I won't even say more cause for me that's where it starts to get hazy. Honestly after biggie at 2 it starts to get hazy. Can't even really say in order who's who. Just these are the greatest ever. But it's Kool we all entitled to our own opinions brother. Now homework assignment for the week is study up on old school hip hop. I think I can change ur top 5 in atleast 2 if not 3 of them within a week of we really got at it.What's wrong with Fab? He falls just outside my top 5 of all-time, he did commercial jams and also kept it street with his freestyles.
Here was my Top 10 I posted last year. It's always a bit in flux, but I stand by my list.
OT: Port of Miami 2
In my opinion this is one of his best songs. It may be too late now, but he should've made more songs like this.. I'm not much of a drake fan, but that was one of like 3 drake songs I actually bumped. Both of them killed that song and it is one of my favorite ross songs no question. The song...
Not sure if you saw my list or someone else’s. I clearly have 2Pac, Biggie, Big L, and Rakim in my top 5.
Nah. It's my fault I just glance over what people right usually. The one I was responding to or meant to respond to was caneofny. His said big l,pun,Nas,fab & em. Fab ain't nowhere near my top 10. Em is outside of my 5 & much as it hurts my soul I gotta be impartial and say pun would be JUST outside of my 5, big l would be top 15 but definitely not 5. So since now were speaking who's ur 5? U said biggie,rakim and pac. Who's the other 2 I'd say Nas is my only other not debatable top 5. That 5 spot has alot of smoke on it. For me without putting alot of thought into it I'd say the group for 5 is ladies love cool James, Kool g rap,krs one, Bigg daddy cane,pun,guru & in a twisted sort of way Andre or edub. But there's so many more I'm just not giving the time or thought they deserve. Gotta throw ghost face into that also.
My 5 is: 2Pac, Biggie, Jadakiss, Big L, Rakim.
Kiss is definitely one of my top 10. He's in that conversation also. Those boys been my people for a minute. My own bias most of the time makes me put styles in front of Jason. I've got some funny stories with those boys. After I retired from football I was on tour with them doing a run off of the east coast. More about radio plugs than anything else. But we were in Charlotte for July 4th. We didn't wanna get off of our tour busses so we stopped at South of the border earlier that day than went to a local Hilton to sleep at night. Long and the short of it we decided to fire off all of our fireworks in the Hilton's parking lot. Needless to say we had alot of big ****. Cops came thinking it was a gunfight ( probably cause u know the south for a long time has been so biased against the urban community in general let alone from up top) they made us all get off the busses at gun point and laid us down in the parking lot. Searched both busses. Styles crazy *** didn't tell us but he had 7 pounds in the undercarriage of the other bus & between everyone there was 6 unregistered guns on both busses. Long and the short we got lucky cause when **** calmed down and they realized who we all were separately between me and them the cops were both big football fans and the other one was a black cop with two teenage boys. We had to do a concert in that ****** parking lot for their kids and wife's and one of the cops had a kid that he thought was gonna be a **** of a football player. Don't know if he ever was or not but I gave him a quick few tips. Funny times
Awesome story. Styles P was on my top 10 list as #10. I love his in-and-out songs with Jadakiss. Few rappers even attempt that style but it harkens back to Run DMC and the 80’s which I’m nostalgic about. I was big into Miami Bass and it doesn’t get the credit it deserves, IMO. To this day, those 808 beats will get any party started.
I think my top 10 groups would be --
I'm all in on ****y. Boys a beast. I been watching that. Kevin produces it. Got some big names involved in that from ground up. Far as beastie boys they're #2 for me. So maybe that tells u alot. Those 3 lil ****** dudes are pioneers though. Can't take nothing away from any of them. Far ahead of their time. I won't argue any of those but I think it's crazy u put run dmc at #10 for groups especially considering some of the ones u put ahead of them.
I get why people feel the way they do about Dre. I ain't gonna argue it either. But I always get vexxed when I see people say it like it's a given. That is a insult to some monsters. Especially when u consider rza... Earl, pun, Jay & Nas made the 90s a beautiful thing for me.
Good list but N.W.A., Bone Thugs, and 2 Live Crew are somewhere in my top 10 of rap groups. I’m also a big Mantronix and World Class Wreckin’ Cru fan (which Dre and DJ Yella were part of before N.W.A.). Oh and Children of the Corn is in my top 10 of groups.
