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JHallCanes said:
No Reggie Youngblood….
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pabloLadada said:
We used to do 10x300 in soccer practice in highschool. Was ******* torture. I’m sure these guys can handle some sprints.
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I mean, yeah, I never played soccer, but I did them for high school football. But I know it’s a different day and all that, I just want to know if there’s any real rationale to these concerns about injuries. Otherwise, why post about it? I don’t see any hard data either way so hard for me to judge.
 
Memnon said:
Samson has the most NFL upside of an OL coming out of HS I’ve ever seen since Jake Matthews.

If this kid isn’t drafted in the 1st or 2nd round in 4 years then something went terribly wrong.
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Don't say that.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
I mean, yeah, I never played soccer, but I did them for high school football. But I know it’s a different day and all that, I just want to know if there’s any real rationale to these concerns about injuries. Otherwise, why post about it? I don’t see any hard data either way so hard for me to judge.
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It is a soccer conditioning drill, not so much a football conditioning drill.

Unless it was singularly used as a challenge or something like that, i dont see the issue with it. But it does not translate to football.
 
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Bender said:
It is a soccer conditioning drill, not so much a football conditioning drill.

Unless it was singularly used as a challenge or something like that, i dont see the issue with it. But it does not translate to football.
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Well, you don’t know anything about football conditioning drills, but I will entertain your opinions on soccer.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Well, you don’t know anything about football conditioning drills, but I will entertain your opinions on soccer.
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The fact that it is a soccer conditioning drill automatically rules out that it is a football conditioning drill. It's way too different of a sport.

And this wasn't just my opinion, it was also posted in that thread that you were quoting. I am sure @AlphaMarshan will echo this as well.
 
DMoney said:
We’ve been gone for a minute, so we’re taking some heavy withdrawals this week on the team, the Portal and recruiting. This is the latest I’ve been hearing from several of my best sources:

The Team
  • Everybody wants to know about OC. Here's the truth- the circle of people who actually know what’s going is very small. It was the same way with the Gattis hire, which is why nothing real leaked. After speaking with excellent sources, I believe the circle is even smaller this time. Take everything with a grain of salt until you see the Bruce Feldman tweet.
  • There are 23 new players on campus and, to this point, there is no buyer’s remorse on any of them. That’s not always the case, even in these early workouts. I preface this statement—and any of the other early impressions—by noting that these kids aren’t even practicing yet, much less playing games. These are just first impressions from workouts. Consider these tidbits for entertainment purposes only.
  • The early reviews on OT Samson Okunlola are as good as I’ve ever heard. “He moves and is built like a #1 overall pick.” OT Francis Mauigoua also stacks up favorably, from a physical standpoint, to some of the first round picks Cristobal and Mirabal have coached in the past.
  • The OL group as a whole has been transformed in terms of body types and athleticism. If there is any difference between the ’22 and ’23 teams, it starts there. OC Matt Lee and OG Javion Cohen are carrying themselves like veterans who know how to work. Lee in particular is already holding teammates accountable. OL Jalen Rivers and OL Anez Cooper were described as “elite human beings.” Note that these giants were both selected to the ACC All-Academic team. Add an NFL talent like LT Zion Nelson to the mix, and you have a Top 7 that is reminding our coaches of some of the great OL they’ve been around at Alabama and Oregon. Remember, these guys know what it looks like.
  • Three transfers are making a strong impression: DT Branson Deen (Purdue) is showing explosive power in workouts that belies his 290-pound frame. CB Terry Roberts (Iowa) can run and was considered the fastest player in Iowa’s program, as well as its best special teams player. He brings leadership and position versatility, from outside corner, to nickel to safety. People joke about TE Cam McCormick (Oregon) as an 8th year player, but I’m told he has deceptive athleticism and is showing more receiving talent than people think.
  • Spring is a time for players to step up and establish themselves as factors. There are certain players the folks in Hecht have a very close eye on, due to their talent and the needs at their position. Those names are S Markeith Williams, CB Chris Graves, DE Nyjalik Kelly, DT Ahmad Moten, WR Jacolby George, WR Isaiah Horton and WR Colby Young. We need some breakouts from this group.
  • WR Ray Ray Joseph brings elite IQ and playmaking ability to the room. He should play right away. Two more freshmen with length who are developing quickly in the weight room: TE Riley Williams and QB Emory Williams.
The Portal

Expect Miami to take two more WRs and a 300+ DT in the Portal. We are still firmly in the mix with WR Gary Bryant (USC). Arizona and TAMU are the competition there.

Recruiting

  • March is shaping up to be a huge month for Miami with a lot of big-time kids getting on campus earlier than last year. Miami will take commitments, but their real goal is finishing even stronger than last year. This means getting kids on campus before they take an official. Visits are scarce, and Miami (along with many other programs) would have been in trouble if the NCAA didn’t expand the visit quota late in the cycle. Miami wants to make sure a kid has been thoroughly evaluated by the time he gets the official push.
  • Miami’s relationship with Chaminade is extremely important, and they are in steady communication to get past any issues. S Zaquan Patterson and Miami have a lot of mutual interest. He is listed as a LB on 247, but Miami views him as a plus athlete with plenty of speed for safety. He just plays close to the line in high school because it’s best for Chaminade. Miami is also in good communication with elite WRs Jeremiah Smith and Joshisa Trader. Bottom line there- we need to win and score points.
  • There are five QBs to keep your eye on at this stage, in no particular order: Julian Sayin (Carlsbad, CA, Alabama Commit), Luke Moga (Phoenix, AZ), Maui Smith (San Mateo, CA, same high school as Tom Brady), Michael Van Buren (Baltimore, MD) and Air Noland (Atlanta, GA).
  • As much as the fans focus on the DT position, Mario is even more locked in. It is his personal mission to add five-star talent to that room. This will be one of the major stories of the 2024 class.
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Appreciate it D$
 
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Amazing how the OL transformed in just a year. Will need to see something similar for the QB room next year.
 
Bender said:
The fact that it is a soccer conditioning drill automatically rules out that it is a football conditioning drill. It's way too different of a sport.

And this wasn't just my opinion, it was also posted in that thread that you were quoting. I am sure @AlphaMarshan will echo this as well.
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Because this will raise question marks:

As a soccer player, you need to be in crazy condition, but in different ways compared to football. Soccer is more continous and flowing, whilst football is more of a stop and start exercise. Thats why football players can easily be full of muscle and play, whilst soccer players can't carry that much weight around, whether thats muscle or fat.

For a soccer player, running 10x 400m is waaaaaay more realistic for game simulation compared to a football player. It conditions the muscles to go at 65-85% for longer periods of time, which is what soccer players have a lot. Sure, theres the occasional sprint here and there, but a lot of the movement doesn't happen at the max range. Lets say you run forward at accelerated but not full pace, and your team loses the ball. You gotta run backwards again, in high speeds, to get behind the ball. As a winger (hi), its the worst thing you can have.

For a football player, who goes from 0-100 and back to 0, its not as effective and it causes injury quicker during the game, because its trained to do something that won't really happen and its not trained to do something that will happen. Theres timeouts, end after a play, end of drivers, commercial breaks... that simply doesn't happen in soccer.

Practice should be connected to the actual application on the field. If you aren't practicing stuff that happens on the field, you are wasting your time. And because the muscle is a system that adjusts to training types quite vigorously, if you train it a certain way, but then do something else, thats when injuries happen.
 
@DMoney

Is there anything you can do, any people you can talk to about the football team making their entrance on the drum beat on In The Air Tonight? If not what can be done about this?
 
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