Terry Jefferson hired as Assistant DB Coach

You must be new… we only fix one issue at a time around here. 😂

But the ones we do fix we get it right.
That’s true but can Mario not see 5 steps ahead in these rooms and anticipate ****? I mean, do we really need to wait until spring to realize the DL and LB are mid? It’s clearly not good enough to me but I hope I’m wrong..
 
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So we are going to fix this secondary but forget to upgrade at DL and LB?
LB I'm hesitant on saying FIX, BUT I could get there. We have youth WE WANT taking over the position. DL I flat out disagree. Wouldn't mind another only for the sake of depth. But it's just like lb where we have dogs we want playing. At a certain point if everyone is gonna nag about recruiting, were just gonna have to let them play. Only way to truly develop someone is on game days. Practice is great for baby steps and refinement. But it's the lights that let us see what someone really is.
 
That’s true but can Mario not see 5 steps ahead in these rooms and anticipate ****? I mean, do we really need to wait until spring to realize the DL and LB are mid? It’s clearly not good enough to me but I hope I’m wrong..
Where is this narrative that the Dline isnt good coming from. We got Bain (first rounder next year), Scott (5 star), Blount (Top 40 recruit), Lightfoot (Top 30 recruit), Mcconathy (underrated), Pickett (top 150 recruit), Lowe (5 star), Bryant, Mesidor(proven) and Blay (top 50 portal recruit). There is a lot of talent in that room.
 
Where is this narrative that the Dline isnt good coming from. We got Bain (first rounder next year), Scott (5 star), Blount (Top 40 recruit), Lightfoot (Top 30 recruit), Mcconathy (underrated), Pickett (top 150 recruit), Lowe (5 star), Bryant, Mesidor(proven) and Blay (top 50 portal recruit). There is a lot of talent in that room.

Talent on paper =/= good brotha’.

You just listed a guy who had a Sophmore slump due to injury and a bunch of guys who haven’t done **** beyond their HS accolades. That + how underwhelming our DL was last year is where that narrative is coming from.
 
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LB I'm hesitant on saying FIX, BUT I could get there. We have youth WE WANT taking over the position. DL I flat out disagree. Wouldn't mind another only for the sake of depth. But it's just like lb where we have dogs we want playing. At a certain point if everyone is gonna nag about recruiting, we’re just gonna have to let them play. Only way to truly develop someone is on game days. Practice is great for baby steps and refinement. But it's the lights that let us see what someone really is.
I wish I was where you’re at with Moten and Horton. I just don’t buy the hype with those guys. I’m all for playing the young guns if I knew we had killers starting.

I would be absolutely shocked if the staff doesn’t make moves after spring. DT and LB in particular.
 
Talent on paper =/= good brotha’.

You just listed a guy who had a Sophmore slump due to injury and a bunch of guys who haven’t done **** beyond their HS accolades. That + how underwhelming our DL was last year is where that narrative is coming from.
So what's your solution, just keep getting guys in the portal every year and then let this kids leave? What's the point of recruiting high school players if you don't even get them reps lol. God people on this board are so beyond slow
 
So what's your solution, just keep getting guys in the portal every year and then let this kids leave? What's the point of recruiting high school players if you don't even get them reps lol. God people on this board are so beyond slow

No
When did I say anything about that? I was just answering your question about the narrative you questioned. Calm the **** down
 
That’s true but can Mario not see 5 steps ahead in these rooms and anticipate ****? I mean, do we really need to wait until spring to realize the DL and LB are mid? It’s clearly not good enough to me but I hope I’m wrong..

DBs didn’t win or lose games last year because seasoned posters gambled and lost on our DL.

Yet we haven’t really added enough again there or at LB
 
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So what's your solution, just keep getting guys in the portal every year and then let this kids leave? What's the point of recruiting high school players if you don't even get them reps lol. God people on this board are so beyond slow
If the portal is going to upgrade your rooms then why not? The elite program’s do it because it’s a no brainer. Load up. Don’t like it? Then bye.

What’s the point in sticking with kids you recruited at HS if it’s going to cost you games? That’s where we are with the DL and LB room.
 
I wish I was where you’re at with Moten and Horton. I just don’t buy the hype with those guys. I’m all for playing the young guns if I knew we had killers starting.

I would be absolutely shocked if the staff doesn’t make moves after spring. DT and LB in particular.
Moten I actually do believe in. PARTIALLY. From a disruptive standpoint, he's got a nice tool box he digs into. When it relates to him playing the run that's an entirely different subject. LONG way to go. He's so caught up with getting up field that he consistently loses gap integrity. Horton I love his hand placement and his footwork. He shows well on Greentree. Lil else. For me I feel a lot better about the line because my concern last year related almost entirely to youth & needing time to develop. I think Scott , Blount & Jones are ready to step up in a pretty big way. I like the addition of Blay & just wanna see more of his leadership traits kick in. At LB I like Popo & Love Hayes. I also love THE POTENTIAL of Bobby & I know we're planning a role for him this year assuming he does stay(which I think he will). We have some nice potential at the position. We do need more established talent in my eyes. Wouldn't mind if one was a starter. But bringing in another starter at the position may be playing with fire.
 
If the portal is going to upgrade your rooms then why not? The elite program’s do it because it’s a no brainer. Load up. Don’t like it? Then bye.

What’s the point in sticking with kids you recruited at HS if it’s going to cost you games? That’s where we are with the DL and LB room.
What portal Wrs have Hartline and OSU added over the last few years. They put first rounders in the NFL every year. How many of Osu's dlineman were portal additions this season? Lets look at Georgia, who acquired one Portal Dlineman in 2024 and zero in 2023. Alabama got zero portal Dlineman in the 2022,2023 2024 class. Look at how much NFL talent they've lost at that position over the last few years. If you want an elite Dline, you acquire elite high school talent, which we've done the last few classes.
 
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What portal Wrs have Hartline and OSU added over the last few years. They put first rounders in the NFL every year. How many of Osu's dlineman were portal additions this season? Lets look at Georgia, who acquired one Portal Dlineman in 2024 and zero in 2023. Alabama got zero portal Dlineman in the 2022,2023 2024 class. Look at how much NFL talent they've lost at that position over the last few years. If you want an elite Dline, you acquire elite high school talent, which we've done the last few classes.
Last few classes? Lol I’ll give you 24’ class but miss me with the rest.

OSU, Oregon, Texas, UGA, Bama, etc., have all leveraged the portal to improve their rosters while recruiting at a high level in HS. Kids who don’t like the additions all bounced and they those schools said “bye” because they were upgrading. Miss me with that talk. It’s 2025.
 
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I wish I was where you’re at with Moten and Horton. I just don’t buy the hype with those guys. I’m all for playing the young guns if I knew we had killers starting.

I would be absolutely shocked if the staff doesn’t make moves after spring. DT and LB in particular.

Same (for DT). To me, LB is less critical simply b/c we'll be playing 2 LBs a lot of snaps. Could we bring in one more dude as rotational or perhaps a true MLB? I suppose so.

DL, though, is my worry. We lose 4 DTs from the rotation (if you count Mesidor). Blay is solid. After that, it gets kind of shaky. Don't know if I trust Moten to be that anchor as a starter. Horton? It's always potential with the kid and it's never translated (injuries haven't helped). Scott was a true freshman but I never saw him jump off the screen. Can he take the next step? Jones never even played, IIRC. That's a lot of "what if's" at DT.

At DE, it's a bit better b/c Mesidor and Bain are solid and Blount seems to be that next guy up. After those 3, who else is there? McConethy, Lightfoot, Rudolph, Pickett. I wouldn't doubt if 1-2 of those guys transfer based on playing time. And they ALL need work in S&C. Love them for the 2026 season but unsure how they'll do in 2025.

In short, I'd like to add one more DT and DE in the spring portal to be key rotational dudes.
 
If the portal is going to upgrade your rooms then why not? The elite program’s do it because it’s a no brainer. Load up. Don’t like it? Then bye.

What’s the point in sticking with kids you recruited at HS if it’s going to cost you games? That’s where we are with the DL and LB room.
The problem we had last year is we didn't have enough blow out games to let our youth play and grow up
 
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The problem we had last year is we didn't have enough blow out games to let our youth play and grow up
True but the staff is responsible for that, at the end. Do we really need to continue seeing Wes, Harris, Powell, etc taking playing time when they’re getting smoked?
 
Same (for DT). To me, LB is less critical simply b/c we'll be playing 2 LBs a lot of snaps. Could we bring in one more dude as rotational or perhaps a true MLB? I suppose so.

DL, though, is my worry. We lose 4 DTs from the rotation (if you count Mesidor). Blay is solid. After that, it gets kind of shaky. Don't know if I trust Moten to be that anchor as a starter. Horton? It's always potential with the kid and it's never translated (injuries haven't helped). Scott was a true freshman but I never saw him jump off the screen. Can he take the next step? Jones never even played, IIRC. That's a lot of "what if's" at DT.

At DE, it's a bit better b/c Mesidor and Bain are solid and Blount seems to be that next guy up. After those 3, who else is there? McConethy, Lightfoot, Rudolph, Pickett. I wouldn't doubt if 1-2 of those guys transfer based on playing time. And they ALL need work in S&C. Love them for the 2026 season but unsure how they'll do in 2025.

In short, I'd like to add one more DT and DE in the spring portal to be key rotational dudes.
Malik Bryant at DE.
 
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