I agree, who doesn’t get ****ed when your car is being towed. As long as he wasn’t arrested.
Yea it happens....shout out to the cops though (I know no one's a fan of that these days) cause usually when u curse at them they take it personal and hit u with the books.
Sounds like an edgy guy Miami needs
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| Even with deep scholarship cuts, the Hurricanes stayed a step ahead of the competition by bolstering their recruiting of the nation's top talent. |
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| Teams can give out a maximum of 25 scholarships to recruits each year as long as they do not exceed the total roster maximum of 85 scholarships. Here are the most recent Division I-A football teams to receive NCAA sanctions that included a reduction of at least 10 initial scholarships, and whether there were any accompanying limits on total team scholarships. | |||
| Team, year penalized | Scholarship cuts | Total limit | |
| Wisconsin, 2001 | 10 over 2 years | 83 in '01, 84 in '02, 84 in '03 | |
| Texas Tech, 1998 | 18 over 3 years | 80 | |
| UTEP, 1997 | 10 over 3 years | 84 in '96, 79 in '97, 81 in '98 | |
| Miss. St., 1996 | 13 over 1 year | 80 | |
| Miami, 1995 | 31 over 3 years | 80 | |
| Alabama, 1995 | 13 over 1 year | 81 | |
| Ole Miss, 1994 | 24 over 2 years | No reduction | |
| Washington, 1994 | 20 over 2 years | No reduction | |
| Oklahoma State | 15 over 3 years | No reduction | |
| Oklahoma, 1988 | 14 over 2 years | No reduction | |
| Cases since SMU: SEC | Big Ten | Pac-10 | Big 12 | ACC | WAC | Big East | C-USA | Others | By Year Sources: NCAA infractions database, ESPN.com research |
Thank u sir
You honestly do not know what you are talking about. Butch absolutely minimized sanctions. The "we were terrible" is a completely separate issue, but you are going to be a hard-headed heel-digger on this.
Tell us how he got Andre King to UM. Everyone knows about Joaquin Gonzalez. Why don't you tell us about the other "walk-ons"?
And, yes, Butch tried to sign a kid as a track recruit (it was NOT NOT NOT Santana Moss, who was a regular walk-on, though he did run track as well). The track kid never amounted to anything.
Nobody said that Butch got all 31 scholarships back. But he definitely minimized the impact of sanctions on our roster size. AND he played freshmen. AND we lost. PLUS Butch suspended/expelled a half-dozen players (I listed them in a different post). PLUS Marlin Barnes was murdered.
That's not "revisionist history". That's just history. Actual facts.
And STOP LYING about "during sanctions" and "coming out of them". We had scholarship losses 1996-1997 (thirteen) AND 1997-1998 (eleven), and we had previously self-imposed seven scholarship reductions for 1995-1996.
You have pulled this same ****e before...acted as if sanctions suddenly "ended" in 1998-99 and that there was no lingering impact. That, somehow, the 1998-1999 season was complete perfection because "probation was over", and that there was "no excuse" to lose games. And stop acting as if we signed 85 kids in 1999 to fill in all our spots.
Just a few years ago, no penalty on the NCAA books elicited more fear from coaches than severe scholarship cuts. Butch Davis led the chorus at the University of Miami in 1997 when, two years after learning that the Hurricanes had lost 31 initial scholarships, he likened the sanction to "half of the death penalty" in a reference to the shutdown of SMU's program a decade earlier.
Even with deep scholarship cuts, the Hurricanes stayed a step ahead of the competition by bolstering their recruiting of the nation's top talent.
Now, half-death doesn't look half-bad.
Unranked after a dismal '97 season, the Hurricanes climbed back into college football's top 20 the next year and have not stopped moving upward since. They are national championship contenders for the second year in a row, despite three smaller-than-usual recruiting classes in the late '90s -- the last of which include members of the current No. 1-ranked team.
"It can pay off down the road," Miami athletics director Paul Dee now says of scholarship cuts. "You have to play a lot of freshman at first, but three years down the road they've got a lot of experience."
The Miami example provides hope for Alabama and Kentucky as they await decisions on their penalties -- and a challenge for an NCAA Committee on Infractions that says it hasn't given up on meaningful sanctions. In lieu of TV and bowl bans, scholarship cuts have become the favored punishment. But the Hurricanes and other programs have become savvy at countering the impact of even the largest cuts.
In its proposal to the NCAA, Kentucky suggested that its program lose 19 scholarships. Alabama, which has not made public what it has proposed to the NCAA as a penalty, reportedly has proposed no more than 20 scholarship cuts.
"Cutting scholarships really is just a small rap on the wrist," said Tom Lemming, a recruiting analyst. "If you really want to get a school for cheating, ban them from bowls for a couple years. Then kids won't want to come."
Dee defends scholarship cuts as "a good penalty." But, he said, "you can work through it and minimize the impact."
Teams can give out a maximum of 25 scholarships to recruits each year as long as they do not exceed the total roster maximum of 85 scholarships. Here are the most recent Division I-A football teams to receive NCAA sanctions that included a reduction of at least 10 initial scholarships, and whether there were any accompanying limits on total team scholarships. Team, year penalized Scholarship cuts Total limit Wisconsin, 2001 10 over 2 years 83 in '01,
84 in '02,
84 in '03Texas Tech, 1998 18 over 3 years 80 UTEP, 1997 10 over 3 years 84 in '96,
79 in '97,
81 in '98Miss. St., 1996 13 over 1 year 80 Miami, 1995 31 over 3 years 80 Alabama, 1995 13 over 1 year 81 Ole Miss, 1994 24 over 2 years No reduction Washington, 1994 20 over 2 years No reduction Oklahoma State 15 over 3 years No reduction Oklahoma, 1988 14 over 2 years No reduction Cases since SMU: SEC | Big Ten | Pac-10 | Big 12 | ACC | WAC | Big East | C-USA | Others | By Year
Sources: NCAA infractions database, ESPN.com research
Techniques used by Miami and other programs in recent years:
Avoid large reduction in total scholarship level: Ordinarily, schools are allowed to sign as many as 25 players each year as long as they don't exceed the cap of 85 total team scholarships. The NCAA sanctions on Miami meant that its recruiting classes over a three-year period were reduced by a potential of 31 scholarships -- a loss of seven in 1995, 13 the following year, and 11 the year after that.
But the NCAA did not place a low ceiling on the number of total scholarships the team could offer to all players. The infractions committee set a cap of 80 total scholarships, just five below the NCAA maximum.
The smaller recruiting classes ended up having the effect of reducing the overall number of total scholarship players for a while. At one point, the team had as few as 70 players on scholarship, Dee said. But without an onerous cap on total scholarships, Miami was able to use a variety of creative strategies to build their total numbers back up and make the team competitive again.
So far, the NCAA has been reluctant to set significant restrictions in total scholarships. The lowest that it has set the cap for any team in the past decade is 79 scholarships.
Bolster recruiting: Already blessed with being located in one of the richest recruiting areas in the country, Miami increased its budget for recruiting. The new money allowed coaches to recruit in more distant locales, and evaluate and impress prospects with more intensity.
"When recruiting, you have to make sure the quality is superb," Dee said. "If you usually bring in 23 or 24 people a year and hope that yields 12 starters, now (a higher percentage) of the players you do recruit have to end up as starters. There's no room for error. Butch and his staff did a great job at that."
Alabama lost 13 scholarships in a 1995 case and never fully recovered, going 34-26 over the next five seasons. But Tide watchers say it's up for debate whether the falloff was due primarily to scholarship cuts or the coaching of Mike DuBose, who was unable to turn well-regarded recruiting classes into national champions.
Cultivate walk-ons: They aren't all as athletically challenged as Rudy, of Hollywood lore. Joaquin Gonzalez, an offensive lineman for Miami, was Big East rookie of the year in 1998. Last season, about a dozen walk-ons saw playing time for the Hurricanes, who have a relatively small walk-on program due to the high cost of private-school tuition.
TLDRYou honestly do not know what you are talking about. Butch absolutely minimized sanctions. The "we were terrible" is a completely separate issue, but you are going to be a hard-headed heel-digger on this.
Tell us how he got Andre King to UM. Everyone knows about Joaquin Gonzalez. Why don't you tell us about the other "walk-ons"?
And, yes, Butch tried to sign a kid as a track recruit (it was NOT NOT NOT Santana Moss, who was a regular walk-on, though he did run track as well). The track kid never amounted to anything.
Nobody said that Butch got all 31 scholarships back. But he definitely minimized the impact of sanctions on our roster size. AND he played freshmen. AND we lost. PLUS Butch suspended/expelled a half-dozen players (I listed them in a different post). PLUS Marlin Barnes was murdered.
That's not "revisionist history". That's just history. Actual facts.
And STOP LYING about "during sanctions" and "coming out of them". We had scholarship losses 1996-1997 (thirteen) AND 1997-1998 (eleven), and we had previously self-imposed seven scholarship reductions for 1995-1996.
You have pulled this same ****e before...acted as if sanctions suddenly "ended" in 1998-99 and that there was no lingering impact. That, somehow, the 1998-1999 season was complete perfection because "probation was over", and that there was "no excuse" to lose games. And stop acting as if we signed 85 kids in 1999 to fill in all our spots.
Just a few years ago, no penalty on the NCAA books elicited more fear from coaches than severe scholarship cuts. Butch Davis led the chorus at the University of Miami in 1997 when, two years after learning that the Hurricanes had lost 31 initial scholarships, he likened the sanction to "half of the death penalty" in a reference to the shutdown of SMU's program a decade earlier.
Even with deep scholarship cuts, the Hurricanes stayed a step ahead of the competition by bolstering their recruiting of the nation's top talent.
Now, half-death doesn't look half-bad.
Unranked after a dismal '97 season, the Hurricanes climbed back into college football's top 20 the next year and have not stopped moving upward since. They are national championship contenders for the second year in a row, despite three smaller-than-usual recruiting classes in the late '90s -- the last of which include members of the current No. 1-ranked team.
"It can pay off down the road," Miami athletics director Paul Dee now says of scholarship cuts. "You have to play a lot of freshman at first, but three years down the road they've got a lot of experience."
The Miami example provides hope for Alabama and Kentucky as they await decisions on their penalties -- and a challenge for an NCAA Committee on Infractions that says it hasn't given up on meaningful sanctions. In lieu of TV and bowl bans, scholarship cuts have become the favored punishment. But the Hurricanes and other programs have become savvy at countering the impact of even the largest cuts.
In its proposal to the NCAA, Kentucky suggested that its program lose 19 scholarships. Alabama, which has not made public what it has proposed to the NCAA as a penalty, reportedly has proposed no more than 20 scholarship cuts.
"Cutting scholarships really is just a small rap on the wrist," said Tom Lemming, a recruiting analyst. "If you really want to get a school for cheating, ban them from bowls for a couple years. Then kids won't want to come."
Dee defends scholarship cuts as "a good penalty." But, he said, "you can work through it and minimize the impact."
Teams can give out a maximum of 25 scholarships to recruits each year as long as they do not exceed the total roster maximum of 85 scholarships. Here are the most recent Division I-A football teams to receive NCAA sanctions that included a reduction of at least 10 initial scholarships, and whether there were any accompanying limits on total team scholarships. Team, year penalized Scholarship cuts Total limit Wisconsin, 2001 10 over 2 years 83 in '01,
84 in '02,
84 in '03Texas Tech, 1998 18 over 3 years 80 UTEP, 1997 10 over 3 years 84 in '96,
79 in '97,
81 in '98Miss. St., 1996 13 over 1 year 80 Miami, 1995 31 over 3 years 80 Alabama, 1995 13 over 1 year 81 Ole Miss, 1994 24 over 2 years No reduction Washington, 1994 20 over 2 years No reduction Oklahoma State 15 over 3 years No reduction Oklahoma, 1988 14 over 2 years No reduction Cases since SMU: SEC | Big Ten | Pac-10 | Big 12 | ACC | WAC | Big East | C-USA | Others | By Year
Sources: NCAA infractions database, ESPN.com research
Techniques used by Miami and other programs in recent years:
Avoid large reduction in total scholarship level: Ordinarily, schools are allowed to sign as many as 25 players each year as long as they don't exceed the cap of 85 total team scholarships. The NCAA sanctions on Miami meant that its recruiting classes over a three-year period were reduced by a potential of 31 scholarships -- a loss of seven in 1995, 13 the following year, and 11 the year after that.
But the NCAA did not place a low ceiling on the number of total scholarships the team could offer to all players. The infractions committee set a cap of 80 total scholarships, just five below the NCAA maximum.
The smaller recruiting classes ended up having the effect of reducing the overall number of total scholarship players for a while. At one point, the team had as few as 70 players on scholarship, Dee said. But without an onerous cap on total scholarships, Miami was able to use a variety of creative strategies to build their total numbers back up and make the team competitive again.
So far, the NCAA has been reluctant to set significant restrictions in total scholarships. The lowest that it has set the cap for any team in the past decade is 79 scholarships.
Bolster recruiting: Already blessed with being located in one of the richest recruiting areas in the country, Miami increased its budget for recruiting. The new money allowed coaches to recruit in more distant locales, and evaluate and impress prospects with more intensity.
"When recruiting, you have to make sure the quality is superb," Dee said. "If you usually bring in 23 or 24 people a year and hope that yields 12 starters, now (a higher percentage) of the players you do recruit have to end up as starters. There's no room for error. Butch and his staff did a great job at that."
Alabama lost 13 scholarships in a 1995 case and never fully recovered, going 34-26 over the next five seasons. But Tide watchers say it's up for debate whether the falloff was due primarily to scholarship cuts or the coaching of Mike DuBose, who was unable to turn well-regarded recruiting classes into national champions.
Cultivate walk-ons: They aren't all as athletically challenged as Rudy, of Hollywood lore. Joaquin Gonzalez, an offensive lineman for Miami, was Big East rookie of the year in 1998. Last season, about a dozen walk-ons saw playing time for the Hurricanes, who have a relatively small walk-on program due to the high cost of private-school tuition.
No, thank you. Kid is out of control. I don't want that kind of attitude in the locker room.
Well Okay then....I love Truth....not made up BS throughout the yrs....You honestly do not know what you are talking about. Butch absolutely minimized sanctions. The "we were terrible" is a completely separate issue, but you are going to be a hard-headed heel-digger on this.
Tell us how he got Andre King to UM. Everyone knows about Joaquin Gonzalez. Why don't you tell us about the other "walk-ons"?
And, yes, Butch tried to sign a kid as a track recruit (it was NOT NOT NOT Santana Moss, who was a regular walk-on, though he did run track as well). The track kid never amounted to anything.
Nobody said that Butch got all 31 scholarships back. But he definitely minimized the impact of sanctions on our roster size. AND he played freshmen. AND we lost. PLUS Butch suspended/expelled a half-dozen players (I listed them in a different post). PLUS Marlin Barnes was murdered.
That's not "revisionist history". That's just history. Actual facts.
And STOP LYING about "during sanctions" and "coming out of them". We had scholarship losses 1996-1997 (thirteen) AND 1997-1998 (eleven), and we had previously self-imposed seven scholarship reductions for 1995-1996.
You have pulled this same ****e before...acted as if sanctions suddenly "ended" in 1998-99 and that there was no lingering impact. That, somehow, the 1998-1999 season was complete perfection because "probation was over", and that there was "no excuse" to lose games. And stop acting as if we signed 85 kids in 1999 to fill in all our spots.
Just a few years ago, no penalty on the NCAA books elicited more fear from coaches than severe scholarship cuts. Butch Davis led the chorus at the University of Miami in 1997 when, two years after learning that the Hurricanes had lost 31 initial scholarships, he likened the sanction to "half of the death penalty" in a reference to the shutdown of SMU's program a decade earlier.
Even with deep scholarship cuts, the Hurricanes stayed a step ahead of the competition by bolstering their recruiting of the nation's top talent.
Now, half-death doesn't look half-bad.
Unranked after a dismal '97 season, the Hurricanes climbed back into college football's top 20 the next year and have not stopped moving upward since. They are national championship contenders for the second year in a row, despite three smaller-than-usual recruiting classes in the late '90s -- the last of which include members of the current No. 1-ranked team.
"It can pay off down the road," Miami athletics director Paul Dee now says of scholarship cuts. "You have to play a lot of freshman at first, but three years down the road they've got a lot of experience."
The Miami example provides hope for Alabama and Kentucky as they await decisions on their penalties -- and a challenge for an NCAA Committee on Infractions that says it hasn't given up on meaningful sanctions. In lieu of TV and bowl bans, scholarship cuts have become the favored punishment. But the Hurricanes and other programs have become savvy at countering the impact of even the largest cuts.
In its proposal to the NCAA, Kentucky suggested that its program lose 19 scholarships. Alabama, which has not made public what it has proposed to the NCAA as a penalty, reportedly has proposed no more than 20 scholarship cuts.
"Cutting scholarships really is just a small rap on the wrist," said Tom Lemming, a recruiting analyst. "If you really want to get a school for cheating, ban them from bowls for a couple years. Then kids won't want to come."
Dee defends scholarship cuts as "a good penalty." But, he said, "you can work through it and minimize the impact."
Teams can give out a maximum of 25 scholarships to recruits each year as long as they do not exceed the total roster maximum of 85 scholarships. Here are the most recent Division I-A football teams to receive NCAA sanctions that included a reduction of at least 10 initial scholarships, and whether there were any accompanying limits on total team scholarships. Team, year penalized Scholarship cuts Total limit Wisconsin, 2001 10 over 2 years 83 in '01,
84 in '02,
84 in '03Texas Tech, 1998 18 over 3 years 80 UTEP, 1997 10 over 3 years 84 in '96,
79 in '97,
81 in '98Miss. St., 1996 13 over 1 year 80 Miami, 1995 31 over 3 years 80 Alabama, 1995 13 over 1 year 81 Ole Miss, 1994 24 over 2 years No reduction Washington, 1994 20 over 2 years No reduction Oklahoma State 15 over 3 years No reduction Oklahoma, 1988 14 over 2 years No reduction Cases since SMU: SEC | Big Ten | Pac-10 | Big 12 | ACC | WAC | Big East | C-USA | Others | By Year
Sources: NCAA infractions database, ESPN.com research
Techniques used by Miami and other programs in recent years:
Avoid large reduction in total scholarship level: Ordinarily, schools are allowed to sign as many as 25 players each year as long as they don't exceed the cap of 85 total team scholarships. The NCAA sanctions on Miami meant that its recruiting classes over a three-year period were reduced by a potential of 31 scholarships -- a loss of seven in 1995, 13 the following year, and 11 the year after that.
But the NCAA did not place a low ceiling on the number of total scholarships the team could offer to all players. The infractions committee set a cap of 80 total scholarships, just five below the NCAA maximum.
The smaller recruiting classes ended up having the effect of reducing the overall number of total scholarship players for a while. At one point, the team had as few as 70 players on scholarship, Dee said. But without an onerous cap on total scholarships, Miami was able to use a variety of creative strategies to build their total numbers back up and make the team competitive again.
So far, the NCAA has been reluctant to set significant restrictions in total scholarships. The lowest that it has set the cap for any team in the past decade is 79 scholarships.
Bolster recruiting: Already blessed with being located in one of the richest recruiting areas in the country, Miami increased its budget for recruiting. The new money allowed coaches to recruit in more distant locales, and evaluate and impress prospects with more intensity.
"When recruiting, you have to make sure the quality is superb," Dee said. "If you usually bring in 23 or 24 people a year and hope that yields 12 starters, now (a higher percentage) of the players you do recruit have to end up as starters. There's no room for error. Butch and his staff did a great job at that."
Alabama lost 13 scholarships in a 1995 case and never fully recovered, going 34-26 over the next five seasons. But Tide watchers say it's up for debate whether the falloff was due primarily to scholarship cuts or the coaching of Mike DuBose, who was unable to turn well-regarded recruiting classes into national champions.
Cultivate walk-ons: They aren't all as athletically challenged as Rudy, of Hollywood lore. Joaquin Gonzalez, an offensive lineman for Miami, was Big East rookie of the year in 1998. Last season, about a dozen walk-ons saw playing time for the Hurricanes, who have a relatively small walk-on program due to the high cost of private-school tuition.
