TE Brandon Vandenburg sets OV to Miami

[GoldCane]

How many TE's would we take?? We've got Travis and Standish committed. We are looking at Mattingly and Wozniak out of HS. Sandland and now Vandenburg from JUCO.

Think Vandenburg is our plan B to Sandland.

here's to hoping Vandenburg never makes it to Miami for a vist (assuming we get our man)

 

[The Franchise]

CarolinaCane83 and umhurricano, the list is probably endless of HS TEs that went on to major success at other positions. It makes sense because the HS TE is usually a big kid who can run really well and is a very good athlete.

Whereas, you see some of these HS DTs and OL, and they're just big slobs who abuse small HS dudes in the trenches without giving much effort. Then, they get to the college level, and they're no longer going up against 5'10 240 pound OL named Howie Schwartz. Suddenly, the dudes they're battling are just as big as they are, so they can't rely on that inherent strength and blubber advantage to move guys around. That's what makes projecting DT and OL from HS to college such a difficult task.

Look at the bust rate of the 5 star HS DTs over the years if you need proof. Most of the great college DTs were dudes with mean streaks and athletic ability who put on significant size and strength at the collegiate level, and then wound up flourishing as juniors and seniors. Look at Nick Fairley. Non-factor until his final season at Auburn. Suh practically came out of nowhere too. He did NOTHING his first 2 or 3 years on campus at Nebraska.

I agree with you, but I don't think this is the case with JUCO tight ends.

I agree with that.

 

[2Focusd804]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mJgOfCpw4o

A couple of years old, but here's him in highschool.

kind of off topic but did u see big 77 at the 1:20 mark on defense? just ran thru the oline

 

[MedleyCane]

Nice discussion, and so true about projecting HS TEs to other positions in college/NFL.

Many years ago my lil brother lined up at OLB against this big sloppy TE from Miami Central HS who was big and athletic but had
absolutely zero technique.
A few years later this kid from Central (Bruce Armstrong) is playing for UofLouisville and he did so well in college he was drafted and logged many years
in the NFL.

 

[TheMatador]

CarolinaCane83 and umhurricano, the list is probably endless of HS TEs that went on to major success at other positions. It makes sense because the HS TE is usually a big kid who can run really well and is a very good athlete.

Whereas, you see some of these HS DTs and OL, and they're just big slobs who abuse small HS dudes in the trenches without giving much effort. Then, they get to the college level, and they're no longer going up against 5'10 240 pound OL named Howie Schwartz. Suddenly, the dudes they're battling are just as big as they are, so they can't rely on that inherent strength and blubber advantage to move guys around. That's what makes projecting DT and OL from HS to college such a difficult task.

Look at the bust rate of the 5 star HS DTs over the years if you need proof. Most of the great college DTs were dudes with mean streaks and athletic ability who put on significant size and strength at the collegiate level, and then wound up flourishing as juniors and seniors. Look at Nick Fairley. Non-factor until his final season at Auburn. Suh practically came out of nowhere too. He did NOTHING his first 2 or 3 years on campus at Nebraska.

Yeah, but Howie has a great motor.

Don't pick on Howie. He'd be a stud if he had another four inches.

 

[TCCane]

CarolinaCane83 and umhurricano, the list is probably endless of HS TEs that went on to major success at other positions. It makes sense because the HS TE is usually a big kid who can run really well and is a very good athlete.

Whereas, you see some of these HS DTs and OL, and they're just big slobs who abuse small HS dudes in the trenches without giving much effort. Then, they get to the college level, and they're no longer going up against 5'10 240 pound OL named Howie Schwartz. Suddenly, the dudes they're battling are just as big as they are, so they can't rely on that inherent strength and blubber advantage to move guys around. That's what makes projecting DT and OL from HS to college such a difficult task.

Look at the bust rate of the 5 star HS DTs over the years if you need proof. Most of the great college DTs were dudes with mean streaks and athletic ability who put on significant size and strength at the collegiate level, and then wound up flourishing as juniors and seniors. Look at Nick Fairley. Non-factor until his final season at Auburn. Suh practically came out of nowhere too. He did NOTHING his first 2 or 3 years on campus at Nebraska.

Yeah, but Howie has a great motor.

Don't pick on Howie. He'd be a stud if he had another four inches.

Thats what she said....

 

[GoldenShowertheGators]

Yeah not so sure the same can be said with JUCO TEs. Which TE, if any, that's on the roster now or a target, could put on the size to compete at DT? That's a lot of weight to put on. Most would more easily slide into a DE spot no? I know Sapp did it but that can't be so common to put on 60 lbs

 

[deleted3746]

How soon before ASU and Nebraska offer this kid?

 

[Oh Snap]

Go home, son. Just....go home.

 

[Problem2]

Sorry dude, but you ain't no Beau