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Lance Roffers said:
To give a little context, college baseball is a different world than pro baseball. So the notions we've all grown accustomed to really don't fit for the college game.

Where we expect our pros to average at least six innings a start, that's reserved for only the top guys in college.

A major contributor in college will generally give you 60 innings in a season. A guy getting to a hundred innings is a complete outlier.

Over 15 starts, averaging even six innings is 90 innings. Not gonna happen. Averaging five is 75 innings, even that is a really good number to reach.

In college, your starters are going to give you 80-90 pitches in the first start because they ramp up in that first one. Getting through five is a nice contribution in that first game.

Further context that might help is to know that the average pitcher ERA is over six. In the pros a six ERA gets you unemployed, but in college it's above average. If your weekend guy is below a five ERA and giving you 75 innings, he's in the conversation for All-Conference much of the time.

When they lowered the seams on the baseball in college, HR's exploded, and so did ERA's. Which, of course, also leads to more pitches and fewer total innings. Just a different game altogether.
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This is really telling information.

2024 IP:
Smith - 84
Arnold - 105
Burns - 100
Ziehl - 100
Neely - 79
Yesavage - 93
Brecht - 78
Cijntje - 90
Santucci - 58
Hess - 68
Cags - 73
Bremner - 88
Knaak - 83
Prager - 97
Blanco - 99
WItherspoon - 80

Although I agree with you that getting to that 100 IP mark is crazy, we should be looking for our best guys to get to 75-80 on a season if we expect success.

Looking at the CWS teams:
* UVA had Blanco-99
* UNC had DeCaro-89 & Sprague-78
* UTenn had Beam-102, Causey-91, then Sechrist and Snead in mid 70s
* FSU had Arnold-105, Drsey-76
* Ky had Moore & Pooser in low 90s, and Niman-71
* NC St had Highfill-87, Fritton-73
* TA&M had Prager-97, Aschenbeck-75
* UF, probably did a better job at spreading the load, with Cags-73, Neely-79, Jameson-67, Peterson, 63
 
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100 innings in college is like 200 innings in MLB these days. It’s pretty rare. My only complaint from the weekend is with base running. We had a few guys thrown out on the bags, which will cost us when we aren’t playing a glorified Juco team.
 
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S.CarolinaCane said:
This is really telling information.

2024 IP:
Smith - 84
Arnold - 105
Burns - 100
Ziehl - 100
Neely - 79
Yesavage - 93
Brecht - 78
Cijntje - 90
Santucci - 58
Hess - 68
Cags - 73
Bremner - 88
Knaak - 83
Prager - 97
Blanco - 99
WItherspoon - 80

Although I agree with you that getting to that 100 IP mark is crazy, we should be looking for our best guys to get to 75-80 on a season if we expect success.

Looking at the CWS teams:
* UVA had Blanco-99
* UNC had DeCaro-89 & Sprague-78
* UTenn had Beam-102, Causey-91, then Sechrist and Snead in mid 70s
* FSU had Arnold-105, Drsey-76
* Ky had Moore & Pooser in low 90s, and Niman-71
* NC St had Highfill-87, Fritton-73
* TA&M had Prager-97, Aschenbeck-75
* UF, probably did a better job at spreading the load, with Cags-73, Neely-79, Jameson-67, Peterson, 63
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I was really referring to regular season with my numbers. Where 15 starts is the norm.

Sechrist and Beam had 19 starts, for instance. Beam barely averaged five innings a start and Sechrist was well under.

Middle relief and depth of bridge guys is among the most important roles in college today. The fact Casey had 90+ innings with only like three starts is incredible and he was definitely their most valuable guy.

That's why I'm more bullish on Miami this year: I really like the depth and varied styles of the bullpen.

To be clear, I'm not pushing back or arguing that we want length from our starters and need consistency, I'm really just looking to drive awareness in the college game being so different than how we view MLB, or even the college game from when Miami dominated the sport.
 
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Lance Roffers said:
To give a little context, college baseball is a different world than pro baseball. So the notions we've all grown accustomed to really don't fit for the college game.

Where we expect our pros to average at least six innings a start, that's reserved for only the top guys in college.

A major contributor in college will generally give you 60 innings in a season. A guy getting to a hundred innings is a complete outlier.

Over 15 starts, averaging even six innings is 90 innings. Not gonna happen. Averaging five is 75 innings, even that is a really good number to reach.
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So I was looking at draft picks because this peaked my interest, FSU’s pitcher who’s going projected to be top 5 this year, went for 100 innings.

Shouldn’t we expect closer to 75-90 IP for our #1 starter this year at least? Or does Miami not have an established ace and just going by committee for now?
 
DC3 said:
So I was looking at draft picks because this peaked my interest, FSU’s pitcher who’s going projected to be top 5 this year, went for 100 innings.

Shouldn’t we expect closer to 75-90 IP for our #1 starter this year at least? Or does Miami not have an established ace and just going by committee for now?
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They will probably be around that 70 mark. But with how many bullpen arms we have I feel it will lean more committee than true ace. And when it comes to the FSU ace, Arnold is a complete outlier, dude is different.
 
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