Stop blaming bagmen

[CaneStuck@USF]

The Patrick Johnson family loved the weather and atmosphere at LSU, so they all just decided to get new jobs, pack up the family Range Rover and move on up to Baton Rouge. Its a great story.

 

[iLoveTDs]

Is this really a discussion? The SEC has sophisticated methods of cheating. It's all been documented over and over again.

If you don't think this hurts us (a small private school with no real organized method of paying kids) then i don't know what to tell you.

We have criminals and rappers doing our bidding, the SEC has bankers and lawyers (alums) doing theirs.

I mean Nevin fvckin Shapiro was our bagman and even he admitted that he couldn't outbid SEC money. Think about that for a second before responding.

 

[dedostheibis]

ole miss was paying kids families bills. they had a guy who took care all of this as his official job. tunsil exposed this among other things. say what you want

 

[RVACane]

There's a difference between blaming Bagmen for our program's failures (which I wouldn't argue) vs. saying Bagmen don't exist. I am assuming that OP is simply stating that Bagmen aren't the reason we suck and have sucked? We've done plenty to ourselves through the actions of previous administrations and corching staphs and this current group is starting to seem like they are following a familiar pattern.

 

[gfer1988]

Is this really a discussion? The SEC has sophisticated methods of cheating. It's all been documented over and over again.

If you don't think this hurts us (a small private school with no real organized method of paying kids) then i don't know what to tell you.

We have criminals and rappers doing our bidding, the SEC has bankers and lawyers (alums) doing theirs.

I mean Nevin fvckin Shapiro was our bagman and even he admitted that he couldn't outbid SEC money. Think about that for a second before responding.

It was funny to see how the national and local media didn't make a single comment about that revelation

 

[Boarcane]

ole miss was paying kids families bills. they had a guy who took care all of this as his official job. tunsil exposed this among other things. say what you want

**** there's a few high schools that pay important players utility bills…. nothing to see here lol

 

[SBAMACANE]

Bama has the perfect system in place right now. They have great coaching staff with great facilities, no doubt. From there, they have the Red Elephant club paying, yes paying big time!! They have SEC office in Birmingham and head of refs is Bama grad, Shaw. Bama has all the big time bankers and lawyers supplying. Bama also has our buddy, Mark Emmert as Ncaa prez. People say its conspiracy theory and tin foil hats. That's all they can say cause they know it might be true!!

 

[pumbaa]

Bama has the perfect system in place right now. They have great coaching staff with great facilities, no doubt. From there, they have the Red Elephant club paying, yes paying big time!! They have SEC office in Birmingham and head of refs is Bama grad, Shaw. Bama has all the big time bankers and lawyers supplying. Bama also has our buddy, Mark Emmert as Ncaa prez. People say its conspiracy theory and tin foil hats. That's all they can say cause they know it might be true!!

Dont forget the cars, from Saban's dealerships.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

randy never even considered looking at him.

Yeah, think you're right mostly because freeman blew up his senior year. But gott**** when these kids are literally in your backyard how do you not know the who's who of talent....just saying.

here's something to look up. How many central kids did Randy bring to Miami? Sad and true, when you see the number. I was told, and I'm not sure if it's true, he never stepped foot on the campus once. Ever

Outside of Freeman, how many of those kids were Miami caliber or even above average D1 caliber? RS knew all about that Central team, he just didn't think the players they had to offer was good. Now was he right or wrong is another topic. Majority of the Central team during that time weren't great college players. They were good high school players but weren't much of college players. Freeman was the best one but even he only had 1 good college season where he broke 1k.

Randy was an elitist and lazy. This is just one example of many. I'll never forgive him for putting politics before the program. He will always be donna's *****. Solid evaluator of talent. Much better than most.

I don't think he was lazy. He had his own methods but the Central kids during his time here were underwhelming college players. The prospects at Central now are way better than the players were then from lets say 09-11.

 

[dedostheibis]

Is this really a discussion? The SEC has sophisticated methods of cheating. It's all been documented over and over again.

If you don't think this hurts us (a small private school with no real organized method of paying kids) then i don't know what to tell you.

We have criminals and rappers doing our bidding, the SEC has bankers and lawyers (alums) doing theirs.

I mean Nevin fvckin Shapiro was our bagman and even he admitted that he couldn't outbid SEC money. Think about that for a second before responding.

and when nevin was our bagman shannon got the #1 class overall in the country

 

[Scorpion]

OP is a ******. Enough said.

 

[JayCane20]

OP is a ******. Enough said.

I've had him blocked for months before this thread. One of the worst on this entire board

 

[Mico Jones]

Is this really a discussion? The SEC has sophisticated methods of cheating. It's all been documented over and over again.

If you don't think this hurts us (a small private school with no real organized method of paying kids) then i don't know what to tell you.

We have criminals and rappers doing our bidding, the SEC has bankers and lawyers (alums) doing theirs.

I mean Nevin fvckin Shapiro was our bagman and even he admitted that he couldn't outbid SEC money. Think about that for a second before responding.

I'll tell you what, we better figure out their methods and duplicate them NOW. For THIS recruiting cycle if we ever want to be relevant again.

There's no excuse for losing the Dalvin Cooks and Calvin Ridleys of the world. Just get it done. Give grandma her Cadillac, make that donation to that Church, get Daddy that dream job ,etc.

 

[INCaneFan]

Bagmen aren't anywhere near as prolific as one would think reading the bs people post on here. Still, they do exist, but it's an accusation that flies every time someone picks whomever versus us. Money is around more once they're on campus along with free **** everywhere. That happens here to this day as well.

I always find it funny that message board poster apparently know so much dirt, at least that's what their posts suggest. They'll follow it up with the NCAA is in bed with the SEC to excuse away why there aren't investigations all the time.

Take all of that knowledge and pass it off to an investigative journalist in NY or DC. They would eat it up and get to work with all those facts.

 

[INCaneFan]

do you rely think kirby landed in georgia and suddenly had better relationships with EVERY high school coach and family than richt. he OWNS the state and everyone but you knows why. it's real… you don't know what you're talking about. not every kid gets paid. however, the smart programs pay to get who they want. every ******* time. most schools pay for official visits too lol

Miami is another country to most recruits from Georgia. Richt or not, we're still not the big local or state team. We're not the Dawgs and more often than not, recruits stay close to home. Smart is an easy sell at this point as well, untested, but good pedigree even if he's learning on the job. Add in the Saban connection, anyone surprised he's doing well should have their sanity checked out.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Bagmen aren't anywhere near as prolific as one would think reading the bs people post on here. Still, they do exist, but it's an accusation that flies every time someone picks whomever versus us. Money is around more once they're on campus along with free **** everywhere. That happens here to this day as well.

I always find it funny that message board poster apparently know so much dirt, at least that's what their posts suggest. They'll follow it up with the NCAA is in bed with the SEC to excuse away why there aren't investigations all the time.

Take all of that knowledge and pass it off to an investigative journalist in NY or DC. They would eat it up and get to work with all those facts.

Experts here have claimed to have info. Won't spill it. "Don't want to hurt the kids"......or their connections and clicks......