stars

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Ya know, EVERYONE loves to ***** about the star system, but there can be no denying that as the online evaluation service industry continues to mature (keep in mind this entire industry is only 10 years old) they are proving to be more and more accurate, specifically with regard to the higher star count kids.

That said, I like the scout.com star rating system moreso than rivals, espn, etc. Scout uses the offer sheet as a primary input for star ratings. Its basically a ranking of their current market value in the eyes of CFB coaches.


In the case of this Travis Johnson kids, perhaps his star ranking is less than it could be because he doesnt have a projected position at the next level. Just a thought but that makes sense.

They got exposed red-handed last year as having admitted always cooked the rankings to benefit themselves financially. Zero journalistic integrity. Really indefensible IMHO.

To discount the entire industry because of a profit motive is naive IMO. We've seen this from the magazine producers since the early 80's. (Lindys, Phil Steele, Sporting News, etc...) It is what it is. Gotta stay in bidnizz.

Its more continual proof about why the lists aren't very relevant. Besides incompetence, they admittedly create an inaccurate list deliberately. If that's not enough reason to discount a bunch of jock-sniffing want to be journalists who have no real credentials, I am not sure what to say.

There is a reason why the very best, highest ranked class in UM recruiting history was literally, the worst class ever brought in by a UM coach and decimated the program. And on and on and on. Look at the offer lists. Trust guys who are paid hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars for their expertise in order to keep $50M athletic programs at non-profit institutions afloat over guys who aren't qualified to be a GA at Salisbury Steak U.

The market speaks.

 

[ARJB]

it happens every year with tha U, last yeR Burgess was a 3 star, but as soon as he commits to Louiville he becomes a 4 star. Denzyl perryman was a 3star, Chick was a 4 and was just as good Clowney, even Duke took 4 ever to gain that 5th star. I don't give much credence to the star system anyway but seems bias towards us

Chick was good, but he wasn't/isn't as good as Clowney. That's just ridiculous.

Plenty of recruiting talking heads thought Chick looked more polished than Clowney in HS, but that Cloweny had a higher upside due to his athleticism. Chick also outplayed Clowney at the Under Armor all-star game to walk away as MVP. Calling him as good as Clowney as a recruit really isn't ridiculous at all.

Chick did end up as a 5 star too, at least on Scout.

I love Chick and he deserved his 5-star because he is a stud, but Clowney is out of this world good. He's a complete freak with a good game to him. SEC defensive freshman of the year with 8 sacks and 5 FF. That's nuts.

it happens every year with tha U, last yeR Burgess was a 3 star, but as soon as he commits to Louiville he becomes a 4 star. Denzyl perryman was a 3star, Chick was a 4 and was just as good Clowney, even Duke took 4 ever to gain that 5th star. I don't give much credence to the star system anyway but seems bias towards us

WTF am I reading? Clowney is the best prospect of the internet recruiting era. He had 8 sacks and 5 FF as a Fr in the SEC. Chick had 5 sacks and 1 FF in the ACC.

It is still earlier and his rating could change. He is a 4 star on ESPN.

and TheRinger

This guy gets it.

Clowney also played on a better defensive line, while Chick was lining up next to Ojomo at defensive tackle.

Shut up and go away.

 

[JHallCanes]

A rare glimpse into the war room:

 

[Ghandi]

Its more continual proof about why the lists aren't very relevant. Besides incompetence, they admittedly create an inaccurate list deliberately. If that's not enough reason to discount a bunch of jock-sniffing want to be journalists who have no real credentials, I am not sure what to say.

There is a reason why the very best, highest ranked class in UM recruiting history was literally, the worst class ever brought in by a UM coach and decimated the program. And on and on and on. Look at the offer lists. Trust guys who are paid hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars for their expertise in order to keep $50M athletic programs at non-profit institutions afloat over guys who aren't qualified to be a GA at Salisbury Steak U.

The market speaks.

Where is this proof you speak of sir?

 

[RepTheGables]

Just do what I do: feel proud of highly-touted Miami commits and shake your fist and complain about sites overlooking less highly-touted ones.

 

[bomb]

Its more continual proof about why the lists aren't very relevant. Besides incompetence, they admittedly create an inaccurate list deliberately. If that's not enough reason to discount a bunch of jock-sniffing want to be journalists who have no real credentials, I am not sure what to say.

There is a reason why the very best, highest ranked class in UM recruiting history was literally, the worst class ever brought in by a UM coach and decimated the program. And on and on and on. Look at the offer lists. Trust guys who are paid hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars for their expertise in order to keep $50M athletic programs at non-profit institutions afloat over guys who aren't qualified to be a GA at Salisbury Steak U.

The market speaks.

Where is this proof you speak of sir?

Over the years a couple of guys have admitted that while they worked at the major recruiting sites that policy was to move guys who were committed to or being recruited heavily by the schools with massive membership numbers up the lists and guys who were committed to school with smaller paid membership rolls down the list to make room. Its come up enough that its basically been stipulated as admitted fact by all parties involved. I don't blame them. Its good business. But the fallout is that some people who care about accuracy (like me, for instance aren't going to value them much. Not unlike a normal magazine or newspaper going straight gossip or tabloid.

 

[CaneLB]

Yeah Rivals had a bit of a scandal with them being outed for having an obvious Bama bump.

 

[hawaiicane]

Recruiting rankings matter. Not in some crazy cause and effect kind of way of course. But in a correlative way.

Getting elite recruiting classes doesnt GUARANTEE that you will win a NC. ****, just look at FSU and good ol Randy Shammin for some in your face examples. lol.

But you cant win a NC in this day and age WITHOUT elite classes. Well, ****, i guess you can if you're Boise State and can backdoor your way in by playing a garbage schedule...but for the most part, you aint winning no titles by reeling in FIU-like recruiting classes.

 

[hcanes100]

Clowney also played on a better defensive line, while Chick was lining up next to Ojomo at defensive tackle.

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[AllbouttheU]

Clowney also played on a better defensive line, while Chick was lining up next to Ojomo at defensive tackle.

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[USNAVYCANE]

it happens every year with tha U, last yeR Burgess was a 3 star, but as soon as he commits to Louiville he becomes a 4 star. Denzyl perryman was a 3star, Chick was a 4 and was just as good Clowney, even Duke took 4 ever to gain that 5th star. I don't give much credence to the star system anyway but seems bias towards us

Chick was good, but he wasn't/isn't as good as Clowney. That's just ridiculous.

This.....But I think Chick has a higher ceiling then clowney

 

[BigDikCane]

it happens every year with tha U, last yeR Burgess was a 3 star, but as soon as he commits to Louiville he becomes a 4 star. Denzyl perryman was a 3star, Chick was a 4 and was just as good Clowney, even Duke took 4 ever to gain that 5th star. I don't give much credence to the star system anyway but seems bias towards us

Chick was good, but he wasn't/isn't as good as Clowney. That's just ridiculous.

This.....But I think Chick has a higher ceiling then clowney

lol... stop playing... that boy clowney is a beast...

 

[CANE]

Can someone tell me how they come up with stars. Travis Johnson's film is every bit as good as Orson Charles a 4 star. He also has offers from ever part of the country and all are big time school. So he should be at least a 4 star by what I know on how stars are rated. So someone tell me how they come up with this please.

What's good for the U is not good for everyone else. AG and this staff look at the players up close, live and in-color and make informed decisions based on the team's needs and style of play. They don't need anyone else to tell them a player is good or not. A star can't measure the love and passion a player has for the U. If fact, if a player is interested in MIAMI, they will take away stars! Because it's like the stock market--it's all based on perception.

You will keep your sanity if and only if you

 

[bobbydigius]

it happens every year with tha U, last yeR Burgess was a 3 star, but as soon as he commits to Louiville he becomes a 4 star. Denzyl perryman was a 3star, Chick was a 4 and was just as good Clowney, even Duke took 4 ever to gain that 5th star. I don't give much credence to the star system anyway but seems bias towards us

Chick was good, but he wasn't/isn't as good as Clowney. That's just ridiculous.

This.....But I think Chick has a higher ceiling then clowney

lol... stop playing... that boy clowney is a beast...

This is homerism at its finest, if we had Clowney he would have already been crowned the GOAT DE to play here by some. 3G is a beast and I expect him to play on sundays, but he is not Clowney. I also love the UA game as an example, they were consistently doubling Clowney and 3G took advantage. No knock on our guy as he did what he was supposed to be, but Clowney would have been the #1 guy in any class except maybeee maybee 04, cause AP was that good.

 

[JHallCanes]

it happens every year with tha U, last yeR Burgess was a 3 star, but as soon as he commits to Louiville he becomes a 4 star. Denzyl perryman was a 3star, Chick was a 4 and was just as good Clowney, even Duke took 4 ever to gain that 5th star. I don't give much credence to the star system anyway but seems bias towards us

Chick was good, but he wasn't/isn't as good as Clowney. That's just ridiculous.

This.....But I think Chick has a higher ceiling then clowney

I doubt there is anyone in college football with a higher ceiling than Clowney

 

[CaneLB]

it happens every year with tha U, last yeR Burgess was a 3 star, but as soon as he commits to Louiville he becomes a 4 star. Denzyl perryman was a 3star, Chick was a 4 and was just as good Clowney, even Duke took 4 ever to gain that 5th star. I don't give much credence to the star system anyway but seems bias towards us

Chick was good, but he wasn't/isn't as good as Clowney. That's just ridiculous.

This.....But I think Chick has a higher ceiling then clowney

I doubt there is anyone in football with a higher ceiling than Clowney

FIFY. Clowney and Megatron, then everyone else.