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I still have a problem with the best player in Dade going to Marshall if he had the grades to get in elsewhere. Not calling you out Peter but just seems like an extremely odd situation.

Who else was going hard after AJ during the recruiting process (besides Marshall)?
 
DiegoCane said:
I still have a problem with the best player in Dade going to Marshall if he had the grades to get in elsewhere. Not calling you out Peter but just seems like an extremely odd situation.

Who else was going hard after AJ during the recruiting process (besides Marshall)?
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Tennessee made a late push, FSU was on him the entire time
 
CaneLos said:
I wouldn't pencil him down in my mock class if I didn't believe we get him. We have a great shot.
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Seems that way. Biggest hold up is grades and speculating on that at such an early stage is just throwing darts at a wall.
 
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Peter Ariz said:
AllbouttheU said:
Peter Ariz said:
I don't want to beat a dead horse with AJ, but let me try to break it down as simply as I can. I will start by saying that I know AJ very well personally so this information comes straight from him. He committed to Miami back when Shannon was still here. He had a good relationship with Shannon and then de-committed/committed to FSU after the Golden staff had been here for a few months a did not give him a single call. The new staff began talking to him again once he committed to FSU, so he committed back to Miami. Through the summer and into the NCAA investigation news, the coaches from Miami weren't calling him and he was the one initiating all conversations with the staff. They had never hinted to him that he would have a potential problem with his grades, even though he knew it might be as well as several other members of his family. He took the ACT and scored a 22 on it, which is a good score, so he thought he was in the clear with Miami. Again, throughout this entire situation he would be the one calling coach Williams, not vice versa. They never made it seem as though he was an important recruit to them. Then, out of the blue, they told him that he wouldn't be able to get in for this year, but they gave him the option to go prep. AJ felt disrespected that they really didn't talk to him throughout the process and then waited to the end to let him know. So he kind of felt like "why would I do them a favor after they screwed me"... hence why he went to Marshall.
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So instead of going to any other school he chose Marshall? This isn't towards you Peter but I call BS with AJ telling the truth about what happened.
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His best friend is going there next year and the two wanted to play with each other. He had a great relationship with Doc Holliday and his position coach. He likes the idea of being the small fish in a big pond. AJ didn't tell this all to me at the end, we talked about it as the process went on.
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He'll be a big fish in a small pond.....and yeah Marshall? The kid ain't telling you the whole truth, sorry to say.
 
Peter Ariz said:
DiegoCane said:
I still have a problem with the best player in Dade going to Marshall if he had the grades to get in elsewhere. Not calling you out Peter but just seems like an extremely odd situation.

Who else was going hard after AJ during the recruiting process (besides Marshall)?
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Tennessee made a late push, FSU was on him the entire time
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So he could have chosen FSU or Tennessee and qualified and he chose Marshall?
 
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Sometimes a drawback of being close to an issue is being close to the issue. You've got some great inside info, Peter, but even AJ's word on his situation isn't gospel and you should recognize it as such. I wish him the best, yadda yadda, but there are (as has been pointed out by others) glaring issues with what he's saying. His personal life is his personal life, but going that far out of state to a podunk safety school with a young child in the family doesn't sit right given his/your version of the story.

What we can take away from this is that Golden and Co. aren't perfect. They aren't everything Shannon wasn't. They will **** off and alienate recruits and coaches. They will make players butthurt when said players don't see the field. I drink as much kool-aid as the rest of us, but honesty is good: Golden is human. He may have missed a beat or two on the recruitment of one of the most dynamic players in S. Fla. last year. But Peter, when you're looking at a responsible and professional 40-year-old Div. 1 head coach and a 17-year-old with an illegitimate child and five (four unique) high schools on his transcript, it's difficult to not put the onus on the kid.
 
I swear.

When I was recruited out of high school, I never expected a coach to call me all the time. I didn't have to be coddled.

I received my scholarship offer (baseball), accepted, then proceeded to go on with my life. I enjoyed my senior year and worked my *** off to get ready for the fall. It was business. A school was investing money in me, so that was all the assurance I needed. I knew they wanted me, I didn't have to hear them suck me off every other day.

The messed up thing is I'm not even that old (24), and I feel like kids now are completely off the reservation.
 
Times were no different when you were recruited. You were different.


umhurricane2511 said:
I swear.

When I was recruited out of high school, I never expected a coach to call me all the time. I didn't have to be coddled.

I received my scholarship offer (baseball), accepted, then proceeded to go on with my life. I enjoyed my senior year and worked my *** off to get ready for the fall. It was business. A school was investing money in me, so that was all the assurance I needed. I knew they wanted me, I didn't have to hear them suck me off every other day.

The messed up thing is I'm not even that old (24), and I feel like kids now are completely off the reservation.
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Peter Ariz said:
AllbouttheU said:
Peter Ariz said:
I don't want to beat a dead horse with AJ, but let me try to break it down as simply as I can. I will start by saying that I know AJ very well personally so this information comes straight from him. He committed to Miami back when Shannon was still here. He had a good relationship with Shannon and then de-committed/committed to FSU after the Golden staff had been here for a few months a did not give him a single call. The new staff began talking to him again once he committed to FSU, so he committed back to Miami. Through the summer and into the NCAA investigation news, the coaches from Miami weren't calling him and he was the one initiating all conversations with the staff. They had never hinted to him that he would have a potential problem with his grades, even though he knew it might be as well as several other members of his family. He took the ACT and scored a 22 on it, which is a good score, so he thought he was in the clear with Miami. Again, throughout this entire situation he would be the one calling coach Williams, not vice versa. They never made it seem as though he was an important recruit to them. Then, out of the blue, they told him that he wouldn't be able to get in for this year, but they gave him the option to go prep. AJ felt disrespected that they really didn't talk to him throughout the process and then waited to the end to let him know. So he kind of felt like "why would I do them a favor after they screwed me"... hence why he went to Marshall.
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So instead of going to any other school he chose Marshall? This isn't towards you Peter but I call BS with AJ telling the truth about what happened.
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His best friend is going there next year and the two wanted to play with each other. He had a great relationship with Doc Holliday and his position coach. He likes the idea of being the small fish in a big pond. AJ didn't tell this all to me at the end, we talked about it as the process went on.
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I think you got that backwards hoss.
 
Pretty sure AJ didn´t qualify. Marshall still offers thte old Prop 48 option to kids (a la Anfernee Hardaway at Memphis). So AJ will sit a year and begin his college career as a soph. FSU and Tennessee don´t have that option. It´s the same thing Grooms did.
 
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Big Fish in a small pond... Yes I know, brain fart.

And look guys, I knew I'd take a lot of heat for that post, but trust me when I tell you that information is accurate.

And as far as best player in Dade last year, I stick by that comment. He took a South Miami team that is perennially a 3-4 win team and took them to 9 wins. He was the only D1 player on that team besides a freshman running back. South Miami ended up losing to a much, much superior Columbus team in the district finals, but the game was a lot closer than anybody expected and quite frankly South Miami could have won that game.

Maybe it would be more correct to say he was the MVP of Dade, but I just don't think a lot of people gave him credit for what he did last year.
 
Peter Ariz said:
I don't want to beat a dead horse with AJ, but let me try to break it down as simply as I can. I will start by saying that I know AJ very well personally so this information comes straight from him. He committed to Miami back when Shannon was still here. He had a good relationship with Shannon and then de-committed/committed to FSU after the Golden staff had been here for a few months a did not give him a single call. The new staff began talking to him again once he committed to FSU, so he committed back to Miami. Through the summer and into the NCAA investigation news, the coaches from Miami weren't calling him and he was the one initiating all conversations with the staff. They had never hinted to him that he would have a potential problem with his grades, even though he knew it might be as well as several other members of his family. He took the ACT and scored a 22 on it, which is a good score, so he thought he was in the clear with Miami. Again, throughout this entire situation he would be the one calling coach Williams, not vice versa. They never made it seem as though he was an important recruit to them. Then, out of the blue, they told him that he wouldn't be able to get in for this year, but they gave him the option to go prep. AJ felt disrespected that they really didn't talk to him throughout the process and then waited to the end to let him know. So he kind of felt like "why would I do them a favor after they screwed me"... hence why he went to Marshall.
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Most of this is true, but it's lacking in some information. There's a lot more to the ACT story, as well as the grades issue, the Gulliver issue, and living with his aunt for a few months in Homestead, than people know. He knew his grades sucked, but Miami did nothing that all the other schools didn't do. When Miami told him no dice, he called him Jimbo, Pelini, and Dooley and they all changed their tune the way Miami did. Marshall came and talked in depth about their H.E.L.P. program and that sold him.

The one thing I do have to give the kid credit for is that he worked very hard his last year to improve his grades. If he would have worked that hard his freshman year, he wouldn't have had some of the problems, and maybe would have kept him out of other trouble.
 
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